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Vile end game chat. WHY?

Member Posts: 309
edited March 31 in General Discussions

Watched my son play and he got a 4K. He's pretty good at survivor and very good with Huntress.

After the match he got told to end himself and hope he gets cancer.

What is going on inside your tiny mind that thinks that's acceptable?

Go to a parent who's recently buried a child and laugh.

Go to a children's cancer ward and point and laugh.

Devs need to take a much stronger stance on these types of comments including up to a permanent ban on their ip address for frequent use of this type of comment.

Thankfully my son laughed it off but what If he didn't?.

Get a grip and stop getting upset over a video game.

Sad, pathetic and potentially harmful.

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  • Member Posts: 710
    edited March 30

    Odd when parents have the verbage "he got a 4k"

    Over more odd when they use a bunch of other verbage and titles that dont match up with how any parent I am aware of speaks.


    People are rude in end game chat, report them with the function.

  • Member Posts: 309

    Firstly where did I say he was a child?

    Learn to read.

    Second it's a game. Pixels on a screen. He's not doing it in real life.

    Third it's called a 4k. What do you want me to say that your tiny brain will comprehend?

    Fourth he's on the Internet. So that makes it alright then.

    Where does preaching to strangers come in?

    Isn't that what reply is doing?

    These replies sum up the idiots that post these type of comments in end game.

    But I'll be sure to mention these replies to my work mate who set up a Christmas tree his son never got to see.

  • Member Posts: 3,230

    Setting aside whether or not the OP is legit, telling someone you hope the get cancer isn't a hand wave, "well, you're on the internet" thing. Or it shouldn't be. If someone gets caught saying that they should get a permanent IP ban.

    You never know who has cancer or lost someone to cancer. Accepting something like that as normal banter isn't being socially advanced, it's being socially stunted. At best.

  • Member Posts: 99

    Being on the internet or playing a game “about murdering other people” shouldn’t mean it’s acceptable to tell other people to kill themselves or to get cancer and I can’t believe you’re trying to defend that type of behaviour.

    If somebody said those types of things through PlayStation messages then they’d be permanently banned from using that account ever again.

    I really can’t stand this double standard people seem to have about what happens online vs what happens in real life. Is it really that difficult not to be a total arsehole to people over a ######### video game? Some of you need to touch grass and really evaluate your life choices.

  • Member Posts: 99
    edited March 30

    How do you know the age of their son when they never specified it? They could be 18/19 for all you know. They’re not acting high and mighty or preachy in the OP, they’re stating that the Devs need to have stricter rules in place to deal with these types of people, which is beyond fair to say.

    If you don’t condone that type of behaviour then why have you somehow found the OP offensive and like it was a dig at you personally? Pretty weird.

  • Member Posts: 99

    How exactly should a parent talk? Do you realise the person in the OP could only be in their 30s / early 40s? I also fail to see what they said that somehow rules out them being a parent as it seems like you’re alluding to them typing in an immature way? I’m in my 30s and would refer to getting 4 kills as a 4K as that’s what it’s called and what almost every single person who plays DBD calls it. Are you saying if I was to have a child I’d have to stop calling it that? You really just typed a bunch of nothing.

  • Member Posts: 99

    That was such a weird thing for them to say. Are people supposed to stop enjoying / playing games when they become parents? They’re also acting like saying 4K is some sort of ‘TikTok language’ that originated with the teens of today when it’s been a part of this game for years.

  • Member Posts: 1,115

    Oh come on. You can't talk crap about someone's social skills, whilst failing to understand why they might be pissed off that their child was told to off themselves. It's an incredibly natural response to be angry at something like that.

    If you have no feelings about to being told to off yourself, that doesn't mean you are ahead in the social sphere. It means you spend too much time surrounded by garbage people and those kinds of interactions have become normal.

  • Member Posts: 2,394

    there’s a report function in the game where you can report offensive end game chat.

  • Member Posts: 99
    edited March 30

    You shouldn’t have to just ignore it though. Which is why I used the PlayStation platform as an example. If anybody messaged something like what’s in the OP to another player they would be banned. No questions asked. Behaviour shouldn’t be allowing players to say whatever they want in the endgame chat without consequences.

    And you clearly misread what I originally said as yes there are double standards here. You quite clearly said “Then he'd be like you, unable to understand he's on the internet” - which heavily implies that this type of behaviour should be considered “the norm” online which is why I brought up double standards. Most of the people saying this ######### wouldn’t say it to a co-worker or a random stranger because they know there would be repercussions for their actions. It isn’t hard to treat others with respect and I don’t get why so many people become Neanderthals whenever it’s being done online. It’s like they forget they’re still speaking to another human being who lives in the same world as they do.


    I can almost guarantee that if there was an easier / more effective way to report the people saying vile things in the end game chat that it would start to disappear. These types of losers take the game far too seriously and don’t want to actually get banned.

  • Member Posts: 688
    edited March 30

    If your son is not a child then I don't think he needs his parent or legal guardian to represent him on the forums. Should be old enough to ignore or close end game chat.

  • Member Posts: 2,524
    edited March 30

    Yeah man I love the Sony reporting system. It's such a great and unflawed system that people in the community actively try to bait others into saying something off a list that catches a ban because of how easy it is to manipulate the system. It's well documented how their system hands out bans over the slightest things. So, we should all embrace that level of indiscriminate overreach with open arms? BHVR can't even implement a profanity filter correctly for chat, so what does that say? And what does it reflect on their ability to implement anything further for chat like ban system??? Also ironic how it's always the people running their mouth first who are always the first to run and report when they get that same energy back. No thanks, I'd rather have nothing at all than a wack system with an AI handling the reports. I agree with @Spare_Them_Mori_Me , Move on. These people are not worth the time of day.

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  • Member Posts: 350

    U dk the age of his child, what if they actively play dbd together as like a late teen and a dad? Cus that definitely exists and most people would want to share the love of dbd with their family members, even if its a weirdly inappropriate game in the eyes of parents. Personally, I'd love for either of my parents to play dbd with me and actually understand it the way he does.

    Hes not telling you to stop doing it either, hes simply just pointing out that it should be instantly bannable, as it should, its essentially hate speech which is a crime

  • Member Posts: 350

    U dk the age of his child

  • Member Posts: 350
    edited March 30

    u dk the age of his child, and the age of the child doesn't matter. Theres alot of under recommended age individuals who play dbd, its simply an age rating warning, its not like he isn't allowed to play

  • Member Posts: 1,262

    Many people in this game really don't take losing very good. I personally find it fun to get insulted because I simply play with them to see their reactions if they start themself, but I honestly wouldn't ever want that to happen to my friends or important persons.

    People in this game have a lot of freedom how they play: you can mostly use bugs how you want, use the most awful combinations you want and nothing stops you from doing that. Now while I personally don't have a problem with bugs being used as long as it has any meaningfull counterplay, there are a lot of people that simply can't accept them and throw tandrums like that.

    In huntress case (even tho not a bug) it would be the huge hitbox of huntress: you can hit people behind walls if you throw close enough to the edge and they stand close to it, you can hit people over objects even tho you can't see them because the hitbox extends over them, you can use orbitals to hit people over the entire map even on maps with roofs sometimes. All of those things are absolutely normal for me and I expect it if I play against huntress, but many people simply don't see it like this and feel like they lost unrightfully - in my opinion their fault, but that's how it is.

    In the end it's sadly nothing bhvr can do very much about that: yes they can moderate their ingame-chat better, but in the end you can still be insulted on steam, xbox, ps-network and so on. I don't wanna protect them too much, but I'm also realistic enough to say it's not their fault that people can't lose.

  • Member Posts: 710

    No but there is also a "parent" saying "children's cancer ward"


    This is how online kids speak.


    The story and their language is completely off and then you look at other posts they make it doesn't add up that this is a parent.


    Again, hope they report rude chat messages but there was no need for this made up story to farm likes/dislikes

  • Member Posts: 159
    edited March 30

    A LOT of people are poor sports and cant handle losing with even an ounce of humility. Thats why the game has such a problem with DCing especially on the survivor side though some killer players can be the same way as well.

    This is evidenced by the fact you have so many downvotes despite asking a simple question and rightfully asking the devs to do something to help curb the animosity within the playerbase. It is, by all counts, a very reasonable request and just look at the reaction you have gotten. A lot of people who play this game think they are entitled to act however they want, say whatever they want, and be free of consequence.

  • Member Posts: 633

    First off, as a fellow parent, I understand the fear and frustration witnessing someone talk to your child that way. There is no excuse for that kind of behavior, but this is very much not an exclusive DBD problem, it’s an internet problem—It’s a people problem.

    There is already a filter for the after game chats to try and discourage this kind of talk. There is also a reporting feature for harmful comments. Beyond that, i’m not sure what else could be done. Completely disabling the ability to talk at all I feel is not a viable solution. You may disagree, and that’s fine. But it’s not as if the community, the Devs, or the game, accept or glamorize this kind of behavior. Trying to frame it as if it’s solely a DBD problem is not accurate, nor is it fair to the community.

  • Member Posts: 116

    much younger than when I was a kid

    Was?? - what do you mean?

    Looking at your demeaning first comment at OP, you probably still are.

  • Member Posts: 3,230

    It's not the least bit ridiculous for someone to be permanently banned (we'll make it a hardware ban) for saying they hope someone get s cancer. Or for using slurs. Or telling someone to off themselves. It's easily identifiable and inexcusable behavior. And it's not an "oops, I just slipped up" thing, either. No one slipped and landed on their keyboard and it spat out a personal attack like that.

    Yes, people are often scummy and you can't change that, but BHVR can choose to not allow them to be that type of scummy in their game. There are many people who have lost someone to cancer, or self-harm, who would be totally justified in taking such statements really hard. And none of us know beforehand who these people are.

    Kids aren't choosing not to surrender their agency, they're becoming desensitized and inured, and there is a vital functional distinction there. And getting pissed or hurt by something isn't a choice anyone makes. How you process and externalize that emotion is. Reaction is not the same as response.

    Having a tantrum over what was said would be giving up your agency. Being hurt by what was said isn't. No one decides that they "want" to be upset by something.

    A healthy reaction and response would be to be bothered on some level by it, but simply report and move on. And a ban would be a reasonable outcome.

    I know some people feel like just venting their reactionary emotional garbage in spaces like this should be normalized and allowed (maybe because they can't get away with it irl), but it's not a huge ask of people consider what they say just a bit. We should want to be better than just hand waving this crap off.

  • Member Posts: 159
    edited March 31

    You are asking for evidence that a large section of the playerbase cant handle losing? Unless you literally dont play the game you already have all the evidence you need. If you honestly disagree with that you are either trolling, gaslighting or a total fool. There are even youtubers who showcase toxic players behaving badly when they lose or something doesnt go their way. How you can sit there and demand that I show evidence to even acknowledge it is just incredible. Your like a drunk saying there is no problem with drinking. Insane.

  • Member, Mod Posts: 1,970

    Closing this thread as the recent comments have been derailed from the original topic.

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