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Is this forum only survivor main platform?
I have read about 50 threads and I read the threads opened every day. Everyone says that the survivors are too weak, the killers are played without any skill and the game is unbalanced. On top of that, the forum owners take these ideas seriously and make the killers weak. I don't know your MMR or game time, but the survivors I encounter are walking backwards, turning the loop areas perfectly and are extremely coordinated in making generators. You probably won't like this post because the killers don't use this forum like they used to. If the killers are made weaker, the survivors will have a 40 minute lobby wait time.
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Yes. If you look at the most recent few hundred forum threads, and count how many were survivor sided and how many were killer sided, then the survivor sided threads would win by a large amount.
The same goes for upvotes and downvotes.
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By their nature there are 4x as many surv mains as killer mains.
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If the killers are made weaker, the survivors will have a 40 minute lobby wait time.
People are complaining about the opposite though. Otz made a video the other day where he took his dog for a walk in the time it took his killer queue to pop.
The forums aren't actually 'killer-sided' or 'survivor-sided', a ton of people on here are very reasonably-minded.
But when the absolute best that survivors can do in high MMR 4-man squads is sub-50% winrate, naturally, people are going to want the balance to be adjusted to remedy that.
Survivors are, by every single metric, the ones that need help at the moment, and the forums simply reflect that.
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There are four times the Survivors than there are Killers. These forums have become just like reddit since the return of downvotes, it was a mistake in such a tribal-minded community as this one.
I recently did an experiment: when I had a Survivor profile image I raked in more upvotes than downvotes. The second I swapped to a Killer PFP? I got branded a "Killer Main" despite making posts about both sides of the game and being fair to both, and here come all the downvotes. They can zerg rush with downvotes in a way more Killer preferential Players cannot, despite people who prefer Killer often being older hands, older players, and often more nuanced people who have in fact played both sides and just decided Killer was the more fun role long term.
This is why returning downvotes was a terrible idea, nobody actually uses them as anything other than to troll and bury ideas they do not agree with… And yes. It proves that there's a lot more angry Survivors than angry Killers. Probably because, Survivor by nature is the victim role and just has never ever been all that fun in long stretches…
As proof, I predict this very post will get probably double the downvotes than upvotes. Watch this space.
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I do think there are a lot more survivor only players on the forums than killer only ones. This is what we’d expect to see given the asymmetrical nature of the game though I think. I also think in general that the average forum goer is not very experienced at dbd and probably has low hours in the game. I don’t think there’s that many high hour/experienced players that use the forums. This leads to lots of posts, upvotes, downvotes ect that can seem a bit disconnected from the true state of the game.
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I don't think the forums are inherently biased one way or the other, for every [Role]-leaning post you'll see people in the comments disagreeing from the other perspective.
I think something that might give the opposite impression is that, currently, looking at the game from a neutral perspective, there are more problems affecting survivors than killers. So, anyone who isn't usually biased is still likely gonna be talking about those issues, since they're the most up-to-date topics to discuss for the most part.
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When was the last time you saw incentives on Killer.
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This forum is "we are passionate and we think we know more about the game than the people developing it" sided. Sometimes we're right, sometimes we're wrong, many times we fail to account for the realities of multi-team game development, and sometimes people post cute animal pictures.
All in all none of it's that serious.
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It's interesting seeing how the culture of the forums have changed over time. I was active for a bit when they first launched and it seemed almost exclusively to be experienced players, with killers being the majority. Coming back after some time, things have definitely changed. Part of that might just be due to the fact that killers were in much worse position when the forums were launched, now that things are a little easier for killer players they don't have as much of a reason to come and try to get things changed through discourse on the forums.
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Survs should speak more openly without fear like killers do. Instead they are hiding behind voting system often.
Unless they are happy with current state of the game lol.
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There are definitely far more survivor mains (people who play killer rarely or never) than there are killer mains. There are a couple reasons: 1) It’s a matter of how the game is set up by numbers (4:1 survivor to killer ratio), and 2) the fact that killer is the more difficult role once you get to a higher skill level, so some people play killer a lot less once they get to this level.
It’s unfortunate that more people don’t play both sides, because that would eliminate a vast majority of the “us vs. them” toxicity and trolling that we frequently see here.
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Funny how even those coordinated Survivor groups you mention—running meta builds and using Discord—still struggle to hit a 50% escape rate, despite being among the top percent of players.
When was the last time we saw incentives for the Killer queue? Or the last time it took less than 30 seconds to find a match as Killer? The reality is that a significant portion of the player base is gravitating toward Killer because, at the moment, playing Survivor has become a frustrating and often miserable experience.
Historically, my playtime has been evenly split—50% Survivor, 50% Killer. Lately, however, I find myself playing Survivor only around 20% of the time, and almost exclusively in SWF. The remaining 80% is spent playing Killer, which speaks volumes about the current state of the Survivor experience.
Of course, some might respond with, 'But Cass, I main Killer and whenever I play Survivor, it’s easy and relaxing.' To that, I’d say: naturally. If you’re a seasoned Killer jumping into a Survivor match and going against a newer Killer who performs worse than the average bot, then yes—it’s going to feel chill. That experience isn’t reflective of the standard matchmaking reality for most players. Those who make such claims should consider putting in a few dozen hours into the Survivor role before making sweeping judgments about it.
Nevertheless, posts like these tend to lose weight when the author hasn't taken the time to personally engage with the aspects they're criticizing. If you're not actively playing both roles and experiencing the current state of the game firsthand, it's difficult to provide meaningful insight.
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I'd like to know how much that 69% kill rate on Blight and 67% killrate on Nurse in the top 5% of players factors into that escape rate.
Most people I know on the forums, and most content creators I know at all levels tend to play both in my experience.
People have one side they prefer over another, but most people I know do mix between both sides.
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The forums are still as killer biased as always. If you would have taken a better look at all the threads you would have noticed that basically every survivor idea gets downvoted massively and get attacked quite harshly too. As sson as they see their overall advantages going down, they come up in masses and try to pitty-counter everything thats said.
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literally just look at the downvotes vs upvotes for this post. That already proves you wrong. Or any other post with a pro-killer point of view. Please show me one, just one, pro-survivor post that had more downvotes than upvotes. I will guarantee that if there is one out there, it was so bad that even survivor main players were like “uh, this is a bad idea because nobody will ever want to play killer again.”
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Any post that is not survivor sided gets downvote bombed ever since the downvotes were implemented so yeah id say the forums are survivor sided.
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Not happy at all. But BHVR doesn't care and I have better things to do than argue with people who think they know everything already.
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You are doing an us vs them stating that survivor mains only play survivor or not much killer yet killer mains play both sides evenly which is not true at all.
There are people who play only killer or very little survivor cause I have a friend who plays like 90% killer of time so anytime he does survivor which is with me and other friend, we gotta always be prepared to give instructions.
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Survivor is very frustrating (just look at the stats). I have played survs regularly, but now pause longer and longer until the game gets balanced again (50/50 rate should be the dev's target).
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What are you talking about? I was temp banned on the forums just once and I probably deserved it. There are rules on the forums and if you aren't gonna follow them then you really shouldnt be surprised by bans and removed posts.
There are discussions about things all the time but what it allways boils down to is survivors not understanding the situation that killers are actually in. The people who do understand and are willing to have fair unbiased discussion are very few in number. Instead survivors do nothing but complain and blame the killer every time somthing happens that they don't like even if what happened was a result of them making a mistake. There is little drive to get better in the survivor community, only to point fingers and play the blame game.
Every single thing the killer does survivors hate and attack the killer for. There is no self reflection, no attemp to understand why what happened happened. Instead we get endless complaints on the forums from survivors.
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Where did I say “killer mains play both sides evenly?”
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This.
I think most people who post are either flex players or killer mains - some survivor mains.
I agree that there are more survivor mains in general, they more than likely lurk like I did years ago when Sluzzy existed. I would just go from forum post to post and read, not really engage, and upvote and move on.
It's more nuanced than just more killer or survivor takes - there's a lot of people who come on here and complain about whatever, start a conversation about specific things, and whatever else there is. — but most definitely survivor accounts lurk and upvote, while killer accounts/flex accounts will state their opinions far more than survivor driven accounts.
@DeBecker says it best and it was quite apparent when I made a forum post talking about countering Surge, having people claim I'm a survivor entitled person, or using ad-hominem. The forums is killer sided, but upvoted content typically goes to more nuanced takes, rather than straight blanket statements.
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It is apparent the forums is more killer sided like the game is like come on I am not calling no names but I seen in a topic a person(survivor player) got 40+ downvotes. I have never seen any killer got that many, at most I saw was 20. Overall the reason alot of survivors refuse to indulge more (unless they dont care) is ever since the DOWNVOTE button was added. The button is just used for maliciousness and nothing more.
This is became reddit 2.0(another killer sided place ofc) Idk if steam forums has this as I do not indulge in steam community, I just play the game. Hell I am not perfect and I know I have my times that irritates people, but I know there are topics I do not complain or ask for nerf or something and literally agree with the topic even if not aint survivor related. Example I will agree with something like hey pyramid add ons are TERRIBLE.
Ofc I agree with that as he was interesting and can be fun to play as but even I know his add ons are very whack cept the ranged ones .I do enjoy vsing him as a survivor and feel he does need some love. Still will get that mysterious 1 downvote which is actually more annoying than multiple downvotes which indicates to me there is a person apparently who never speaks but if they see me post they push it lol.
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Uhh just look that more people are playing survivor then killer. I said the forum is killer biased. That doesnt mean that there are more killer mains writing or voting than survivor. But theyre frequently downvoting everything while survivor mains tend to choose if something is worse downvoting or not. the killer biased one just downvote everything that doesnt feel fine for them.
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