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How is 2v8 survivor going for everyone?
I played some matches after I got home from work today and hoo boy it has been a disaster. I’ve never in my entire DbD career experienced so many unbelievably terrible teammates. People getting downed no more than 5 seconds after chase begins, nobody working on gens, or sometimes just being AFK for the first couple of minutes. Just in my last match, I ran one of the killers for a good couple of minutes, figuring there would easily be a couple gens completed. After I finally got downed - NOTHING! What the hell were people doing? On top of that, every match has giga-buffed Oni downing 3 or 4 people at a time with a single use of his power.
Past 2v8s haven’t been even close to this bad on the survivor side. Is anyone else seeing this too? Maybe it’s just a big influx of brand new or very infrequent players at the very beginning of the event and they will fade away after the first day or two. I sure hope that’s the case, because this is 100x worse than normal 1v4 solo queue.
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I just find it funny that there's 2 killers, 8 survivors, and both killers still want to tunnel the same survivor like there aren't 4-6 survivors on gens like… you're gonna lose.
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I got camped in a cage by the killer. Because apparently the anti-camp doesn't work anymore.
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Eh it's the worst version yet for survivors. Herbs have been removed, legion is still in almost every game with giga buffed oni, useless smoke bombs in a lot of chests (which also incentivize teammates not do gens because they want them).
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I was wondering why I haven't seen cages move yet…
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Legion gotta go. That's my only thought.
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Anticamp was changed so if a survivor is near by the cage won't move. Survivors need to run away and leave the area. With ONLY the killer nearby the cage will move. Of course you have the killers who counted how many meters from the hook they could stand without giving you anticamp. So there's that.
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Even with the killer standing next to my cage, running circles around it with no other survivors around, it still wasn't working.
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Killer duos have already figured out the Oni/Legion combo, which playing against feels like pulling teeth.
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Legion & Oni - Legion & Oni - Legion & Oni.
It's sooooo muuuuch fuuuuuuun. At least the BP gain is acceptable.
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This should surprise nobody. The devs cater to killers and genuinely treat the survivor role like straight garbage. There's never a reason to touch the game unless you enjoy playing Killer. Every patch has made it clearer how poorly balanced this game is and why I only bother with half of it unless I'm forced to touch Survivor for challenges.
If this weren't the case, they wouldn't offer a +400% bloodpoint bonus to survivors. Nobody wants to play a punching bag, and that's exactly how they're designed.7 -
Double the survivors, double the weak links, half the brains.
Somehow in 2v8 you have less chance to be unhooked before second stage or dying outright. Bystander phenomena is real. I need friends
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"Why are killer ques so long?"
Why do people think?!! It's not hard to see why.
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Is herbs being removed intentional? There's no mention of this.
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I played 8 games and didn’t escape a single time yet. Lots of Oni/Legion combos. In prior 2v8 events, I had no problem escaping on a regular basis - more often than normal 1v4 solo queue. Either survivor players got a lot worse since then, or BHVR went way overboard tweaking the balance between last event and this one.
What boggles my mind is why BHVR thought that this time around there should be more incentive to play killer and less incentive to player survivor in 2v8 mode. Are they going for a new record on killer queue wait times for this one? That seems to be the only explanation.
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I think survivor is perfectly balanced, but we really need more classes. We could use a Boon class, a blast mine/chem trap class, a proper chase/distraction build etc.
I don't think we've seen any new classes since the first 2v8, only modifications such as giving Scouts Any Means Necessary. Now we have technically lost features with the removal of herbs
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Most versions of 2v8 have been survivor sided. 8 Instead of 10 gens. Herbs that instantly heal and remove entire hook states, serious amounts of aura readings on the killer, notifications when your aura has been read even by stealth killers, gen speeds faster than lightning, survivors recreating pallets and god pallets. Both sides have to deal with their fair share of BS. 2v8 isnt meant to be perfect. They can fine tune the rest.
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I've had Nemesis zombies more useful than the teammates I've had as survivor.
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I disagree. The game was fairly balanced previously for the regular public match, resulting in a healthier game mode. Even with it being a healthier mode, there were still long queue times for killers. You want a game that hands you victories because you don't care about balance or actual PvP gameplay, is all I'm seeing. You want the Dead by Daylight experience where they balance entirely around a survivor premade on voice, while the regular match is an easy stomp because randoms stand no chance.
Just got out of a match where a streaming Oni complained about their 35-minute wait times.13 -
My wait time is 10 minutes to play killer on 2v8.
" You want a game that hands you victories because you don't care about balance or actual PvP gameplay, is all I'm seeing."
This is false. Just prejudgment/assumption of me. I never said any of that.
But you seem to have both sides of the story all figured out so I will just lay it here.
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It's actually pretty good. I honestly prefer to play against Legion + Oni than Blight + Nurse
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The Oni/Legion teams are so miserable. The definition of unfun
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A waste of time as usual. They haven't added anything of substance for survivors and the quality of teammates continues to be appalling.
I'll play enough to do the challenges and be done with it.
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Anti camp doesn't work when a survivor comes within 16 meters of your cage. Your cage will no longer teleport after they come that close. Its been like that since the 3rd iteration
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Lmfao
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i've ben only playing killer because im playing with a buddy but yeah i think you're right in general it's the first day of 2v8 and i've seen the most baby players in on surv side currently like they barely know how to play the game might be a influx of ether new players or a return of verry casual players lol and five night at Freddy is the cusps of release so it might explain the new players if it's the case wanting to know the game
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Legion needs to go! I'm never touching 2v8 again unless this gets addressed.
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I turned the game off as soon as I finished the quest challenges. 2v8 survivor teammates are the worst.
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Its definitely the worst version of 2v8 for survivors.
Before during the other 2v8 I would escape most games as survivor and it was decently fun playing as survivor. I still preferred killer but the queues were terrible (around 10-12 minutes). However now during this 2v8 its been miserable playing survivor so of course naturally id rather play killer but no the queues are 20 minutes! Also they have made it a lot more boring as killer. I preferred killer before because the survivors were so strong and it was tough and interesting games. Now the games are so easy that its boring as killer and the games are miserable as survivor because the killers are too strong.
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How do they have infinite power? If the answer is "Legion" then I'll simply respond with "medic class"
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Has anyone been in a match that did not have Oni? This is ***ing ridiculous. Easily the worst 2v8 event ever. And I usually am a strong defender of the killer side.
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Quite disappointed. I thought the queing as a killer while playing as a survivor was going to be available for this patch, but with such a long wait, it is not worth playing as a killer for these short matches. They should at least aim for the regular mode match duration.
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Yeah, against a good team survivors have a huge advantage. Way easier to split pressure, maps have a very large number of pallets, very loopable tiles, and significant buffs for each class. Unfortunately what typically happens is people load in and all sit in the corner until the killers show up and put insane pressure on everybody. Then when people get hooked they end up on the opposite side of the map. There's usually a least a couple survivors who lack the confidence to even do a gen, so they'll run from hook to hook and heal under the hook. Until the killers migrate back and everyone pops up on the other side, over and over until everyone is dead and nothing gets done. Its gotten to the point where I bring guide and the first thing I do is run to the other side of the map, just so that people know that it is possible to work on a generator outside of the killers terror radius.
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After playing more I can agree with this. Oni probably needs some changes for 2v8 next time.
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dunno, my queue never pops as killer so I gave up and went back to normal mode
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Kind of makes you wonder if BHVR did any internal testing whatsoever before releasing Oni into 2v8 mode
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Yeah people need to split up when there's an Oni. He's constantly in power in my games.
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Oni doesn't seem that bad, tbh. There are so many survivors knocking about that slugging really doesn't have the same impact as it does in 4v1.
Legion, on the other hand…
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I think I just played the most infuriating game of 2v8 to date. Everyone still alive at 1 gen left and I was the only person trying to get the last gen done. No exaggeration. I watched half my team die in that time while no one touched a gen. The Legion knew I was trying to get my gen done and he kept interrupting me. At one point I had a Vittorio finally show up and I tried to heal him but he was pointing at the gen (yeah I know mate, I've been battling a killer for it for the last 5 min while you did who knows what) and of course as soon as the killer shows up, I take a hit for him but he still goes down right away, and now I'm left injured. I ended up just letting the killer down and kill me just so I could get away from my team mates lmao
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Can attest to this as I played Oni for the first match. Was 70-80% of the match, in power. Hell, there were 3 downs I got with my power, and I was almost immediately able to go back into Blood Fury..back-to-back-to-back.
As for survivor, not too bad so far..I faced an Oni/Legion & just decided to go next. My next 3-4 matches were all pretty fair in terms of match ups besides that. Only other gripe is people not doing gens and just snowballing the match early for the killers (just had a match where the killers got 5 hooks before a single gen completed).
Only the first day though.
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Every new iteration of 2v8 has been worse than the last. This one feels especially unfun on survivor and since killer queues are a million hours long I don't even get to play that side. Like you need so many more survivors than killers to make 2v8 work so idk why they insist on making survivor less and less fun every single time.
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Legion is genuinely poison to the mode.
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It's been fun. Not sure what the complaints are about.
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MMR is clearly off OP so yeah, the team mates you get are appallingly bad and it makes for some frustrating matches. It makes me realise how much more experienced I am than many, probably in the 1% from what I can tell. Team mates make bafflingly stupid decisions and seem to have no situational awareness. Oh and those goddamn chests, team mates seem to not understand that opening a chest is meaningless if you all die anyway. I had a survivor decide that instead of helping us with a our last gen that was at ~75% completion, he would instead open a chest next to us.
This one act spiralled things out of control and well, long story short I died and had to leave immediately so I did not type nasty things in chat lol. This mode is INFURIATING as far as team mates go, cant wait until it is over
100% agree, I can tolerate the others but Legion completely destroys it for me. I don't know how they thought adding Legion AND Oni was a good idea?!
I am only doing it because it has a dramatic effect on regular survivor queues and 400% BP bonus is hard to turn down. But I find it a frustrating mode and Legion makes this infinitely more frustrating. I actually cant wait until 2v8 is over
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i can tell you that Legion is actually not even a good combo with Oni because you are supposed to hard carry as Oni and basically play 1v8 due to Legion not being able to do anything other than injuring survs. Wraith can at least force rotations and melt pallets, Legion can't do any of that.
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They may have realized the Survivor escape rate was a bit too high and tweaked it. They may have realized they over-estimated some things. Or it may just be an influx of super casual and chill players, new players, etc. I have seen some SHOCKINGLY bad new Ghostfaces in 2v8. I mean not even understanding how to stalk, it's not just Survivors.
Everyone's right that Oni/Legion is 100% problematic in this mode. Legion just isn't fun in this mode, and Oni on top of it makes it even worse.-2 -
The killer queue will be an hour by Sunday at this rate. It's literally nothing but slugging Oni's every single match and you pair him up with a Legion he has fury up all game long. Just not a good experience at all he needs major nerfs
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2vs8 Legion has this problem for 2vs8 Survivor... Scout, Medic and Escapist aren't very efficient against them, and you get the usual soloQ issue of people don't know how to play against Legion, but with double the number of players who can screw it up.
Normally I like to see 2,2,2,2 for classes and will switch class accordingly... however Legion is so game altering and common you have to assume they are in play... which means you have to mass spam Guide, stay injured and rush the holy hell out of gens.
It's lame to have to play this way every game, and what really sucks is because Legion is so common, when you don't get a Legion and have some room to actually play something more interesting... it's too late, you're already playing the Guide game.
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I agree, for one the maps are too large. There are a max of 4 medics which never happens in solo queue. And not only do you have to heal someone you have to mend them (and yourself) first. Massive waste of time when you need gens up. Plus Oni slugs, so now you have to get them off the ground or let them slowly recovery. Oni and Legion are the worst additions to 2v8 thus far and I used to complain about having to vs the same 4 killers in the first 2v8. Tuh.
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When 2v8 first came out, it was such a fun experience for survivors. You won some, you lost some — but you won enough to keep you queuing up for me & it felt like such a rewarding experience, all the survivors running out together. Now… God, I think I've escaped once or twice since it released yesterday, and it was only a few stragglers who made it (by what felt like dumb luck). Like other commentators have said, teammates aren't doing gens or taking chases; the killers are so overpowered (LEGION!? Are we serious!?) I feel like I'm grieving a game mode that was so, so fun. Can't convince any of my friends to play it with me anymore. Sucks, especially since I want to love it so much.
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Once they added Legion, there's unfortunately no going back - they can't really remove him now from future iterations which is sad.
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