see ya guys until next 2v8

My friend and I were just talking about how 2v8 really highlights just how much of a slog the regular mode is now. 2v8 is so much more fun on both sides. I would be down for hooks to go away and become cages in regular mode. It would help mitigate camping and tunneling since you don't know where/when it happens. (you could find them obviously but have the cage move)

Going back to regular mode is just… unbearable right now with Ghoul players being Ghoul players and just certain aspects that felt so nice in 2v8 not being available in regular mode and I prefer killer role. I would gladly play 2v8 exclusively if it was a regular mode, even as killer.

tbh I didn't experience much of that and the few times I did as long as people played against Legion like you're supposed to (hold W into a corner to avoid frenzy, made easier due to the larger maps and plentiful resources) and played around their class strengths it wasn't too bad. If the Oni was decent it could still go south quickly due to the power gauge bug but it was still way more fun than the main mode.

Almost wish they made 2v8 permanent at this point.

I like it if it didn't mess with killer wait time,it just to much.

something worth mentioning/adding to the OP I think is that 1v4 isnt just frustrating because of Killer players - Not all of them are playing super toxic/sweaty/wahtev but sometimes it’s frustrating because of your teammates - either doing literally nothing, actively or passively helping the Killer, bring overly selfish when its not beneficial for them and just detrimental for the team.
you cant really force anyone to play in a certain way obviously but the game is designed in a way that makes these playstyles way too rewarding over fun/casual playstyles. It promotes toxicity and certain content creators do too. Though the devs also introduce more and more features against this (anti extreme hiding) even if not perfectly implemented right now

Comms would fix solo Q without the need for any major buffs, I reckon. Like actual comms, not just info buttons like "killer is chasing me".

People who disagree because of toxicity etc. can always turn VC off if they're that bothered. I think voice chat would make solo Q feel more refreshing and make collaborating in-game through teamwork (what the devs are aiming to balance the game towards) a more viable option.

I don't understand how they want survivors to work together with only 2 emotes. It has been stated they want survivors to work as a team to escape rather than only thinking of themselves. Voice chat genuinely feels like the only real way to really "fix" solo Q, in my opinion.

Voice comms wouldnt fix this. Top many people would opt out, use comms for toxicity, some don’t have a microphone, then there is Language barriers in Most regions, etc.

sure, some matches would be more coordinated but the problem would still exist in general and comms would introduce even more Problems plus need further moderation from devs/Support and we all know that the current reporting/support isnt at its best either

Don't even need cages for something like that, just have whatever hook the Killer puts a Surv on teleports in place of another hook on the map. So a Surv has less of a chance of getting camped and tunneled off hook and so if Killers want to camp/tunnel then they really need better time management/dedication to it, increasing the chances of Survs being able to counter it.

It does fix it, though, as when I play solo queue, most issues can be resolved if someone calls out that they're being camped or tunnelled. Then, everyone can focus on generators or taking hits or whatever they need to do. Calling out pain res, calling out the trade with the deli, etc., would all be resolved through communication.

If you don't have a microphone in 2025, that's an issue for the player, not a reason why voice chat shouldn't be allowed in general, making everyone else's games harder than they need to be. I would take voice chat over unnecessary buffs that are just gonna make the killer play even more sweaty or refuse to hook because Surv has so many basekit precautions to tunnelling and camping any day.

I don't see any reason for a game not to have communications, especially when they're so adamant on having the game be team-based. Every other game has comms, I don't understand what makes DBD so special not to have them. They want to meet industry standards and not have comms? crazy to me honestly lmao.

Just add voice chat so we can be on the same playing field as swf players at least.