Why doesn't Springtrap's TP have a notification?

Tested both, Hawkins was pretty consistent. Only time it would spawn on a different floor was the tunnel room. That room always spawns a gen upstairs and a teleporter downstairs.

Midwich could spawn teleporters on the stairwell, which... I guess could go either way. After about 6 times loading in, I only saw 1 where the spawn was on the wrong floor to the gen.

All in all, it was pretty consistent where the teleporters were on the same floor and roughly 8-10 meters from the gen.

Then bhvr need to step up, the invisible bug and that has to be fixed asap. However doesnt mean that once fix survivors will lose the ability to do so. We will have xeno 2.0 where he got nerfed because the devs could not be asked to ship a chapter without game brekaing bugs.

You tested xeno on rpd?, cuz I play that mf a lot and his tps are aleays on different floors to the gens.

Who knows? I think there's supposed to be an audio cue for the doors, too, but I think it's bugged. There's no way they thought, "A slight whooshing noise as the door opens is ample enough warning for a teleport that drops ST directly on top of a survivor."

I used Sadako as I thought the spawn locations were the same. I can try it again with Xeno.

The range attack is a valid argument, but springtrap is in no way the best tp out there when singularity and unknown exists. Those tps are actually powerfull, they are a danger to be faced, not a glorified surprised that only works if the player is doing something else in a second monitor like what dredge, sadako, demo, xeno and freddy have.

And even with all of that singularity and uninown are still wayyy better killers than springtrap. Also we are forgetting springtrap is the only killer who lets survivors tp across the map too. Meaning good players can use them to unhook without making themselves visible to him.

Idk why people want to make him like sadako or demo, which are just jokes ahainst any player thats not new/throwing on purpose, but if thats what the playerbase wants its clear they absolutelly deserve their ghouls and dash killer slop.

But teleporting right on top of survivors with no warning isn't "stealth." It's just cheap hits. It's not like you snuck up on an unsuspecting survivor due to your awesome stealth… you just silently teleported three feet from them and got a free hit because they literally had no chance to react in time. You say that "survivors should just pay attention" on gens, and that we're trying to cater to 10 hour Dwights that can't pay attention, but I have 1200 hours in this game and I sure as hell can't hear that door even when I'm listening for it. The generator drowns it out. And if the access panel isn't facing the gen… you're just a free hit. And free hits are never fun. That's why so many people hate the Ghoul.

ST's axe has like a 30m range compared to Xeno's 4.6, and can hit over tiles that Xeno could never dream of, and Xeno has one of the best anti-loop hits in the game. I think Springtrap will be fine if survivors can get a little distance when ST teleports right on top of them.

And I'd say that Spirit > Dracula, but that's just me. Spirit can attack out of her phase, Dracula has a 2 second cooldown before he can swing, and the swap between third and first person is often too jarring to get that fast hit. They're not really comparable besides the fact that they can only see scratch marks.

That's not his design and purpose, and to present it as such is disingenuous. Springtrap is no more the jumpscare killer than Dredge is. Teleports are not meant to guarantee free hits.

It's called Counterplay. Sadako and Dredge aren't easy to dunk on because they notify survivors that they're teleporting; they're easy to dunk on because their powers are gimmicky and take too long to come into play, but they're also still better than the likes of Ghostface and Myers who have to walk from one end of the map to the other.

Idek why you're bringing up the footsteps because like the OP and everyone else had said that doesn't matter, the footsteps are the last cue you get as a player. All the audiovisual cues regarding the door (besides the keypad flickering which is really just so niche), if reacted to don't allow you to make enough space to deny a M1 unless either you are using sprint burst, or the killer is greedy and goes for axe over M1. IMO I'd argue you're just runnong sprint burst every single match and aren't experiencing what everyone else is.

Friday Night at Freddy's worshippers downvoting every comment you make when you're speaking the truth.

Outed myself? I'm not the one going around calling Springtrap the jumpscare killer just because jumpscares are a gimmick of his, as if jumpscares are unique to Springtrap.

When you have an actual point, let me know.

Look at that, you've just pointed out a list of reasons why Dredge gets dunked on and none of those reasons are that his teleport as an audio cue.

So, why is it then that if Springtrap gets an audio cue when using a door, he's immediately trash tier and is going to get dunked on? His doors spawn next to generators, and they fixed the problem where chests were taking priority over killer props which makes him far less dependent on RNG.

Survivors will pre-run, yes, but let's not forget that Springtrap isn't just an M1 Killer with a teleport. He also has a ranged attack that, when embedded in a survivor, provides free aura reading. Let's also not forget that this isn't just about making sure Springtrap is fun to play as. Healthy counterplay is what makes killers fun to play against.

Explain how it's unreasonable to expect bhvr to maintain consistency. I'll wait.

Which is it? Either the audio cue makes them easy to dunk on, or there are other factors as to why Sadako and Dredge are easy to dunk on? It certainly can't be both.

You pointed out all the problems with Dredge that make him easy to dunk on, and not a single one had to do with the audio cue for his teleport.

Currently, ST is getting free hits with his teleport because it isn't telegraphed. If you can't see the pad, then what counterplay is there? If there's no counterplay to it, how is that fun to play against?

An audio cue isn't going to see survivors pre-running every time. Especially not if they're working on a high progress gen. An audio cue would simply be telling them that ST is using a door. It wouldn't be telling them which door, specifically. If they pre-run, then yes you have to catch up to them. Why is that a problem? Every other killer has to do this. Why should ST be the exception?

If we're talking about stealth killers, Ghostface has an audio cue when he's using Nightshroud and is nearby. Wraith has an audio cue when he cloaks. You can hear Myers breathing when he's nearby. These audio cues don't make them bad. There are other factors at play as to why they're bad.

Why cant it be both, this is a false dichotomy, they are easy to dunk on because their secondary power is bad, but their tp is also really bad cuz it gives survivors a 3 day notice to prerun accordingly. What makes them bad is gaving a bad power and their teleport which should compensate for having a cheeks power is also cheeks cuz its as obvious as the fact you are playing dbd at that moment so you can just run to safety 100% of the time.

Even with a highly progressed gen you can very easily hear the audio cues other killers have (demo,sadako and dredge) , there is no excuse for not prerunning actively that is not: you could finish the gen so its worth the hit, you are playing without sound, you have a hearing issue or you are blasting music, maybe also if its the first time you are facing those killers.

The audio cue will guarantee you can prerun if you have your audio on

If they're easy to dunk on because their secondary power is bad, then that has nothing to do with the audio cue. If they're bad because the audio cue is taking away the element of surprise, then their power was bad to begin with and the audio cue doesn't have as big an impact as you think.

Your assumption is that the teleport is supposed to compensate for their power being bad, but you haven't considered that not all powers are created equal and not every power is a chase power.

Again, I ask why survivors pre-running is bad? This is something every killer in the game has to deal with. Chasing survivors is part of the game. Springtrap has good map mobility with his doors, and has a ranged attack that provides basekit aura reading and increases his movement speed from 4.4m/s to 4.6m/s. He also has basekit undetectable for 20 seconds after using a security door. Doors aren't hindered by RNG like Dredge's lockers and actually spawn next to generators, allowing ST the ability to actually apply map pressure unlike M1 killers. Arguably far from a mediocre power.

Why should Springtrap be the exception to the norm? Especially when every other killer is consistent in that they all have tells that allow survivors to play around their powers. What, if anything, makes Springtrap special such that he should be the exception?

You cannot hear the door unless you are directly next to the door. You also cannot see the door panel unless you are facing the panel.

Their secondary power is bad BECAUSE of the audio cue, a sadako can teleport to the other corner of the map but her pressure is gone because hey the 30 seconds she needs to just walk over there now she spends catchig up to the prerun. Same with dredge to a worse degree. Springtrap should not be the expection, in that we agree if bhvr wants to make all tps useless then yeah its unfair STs gets a tp that can actually surprise sentient beings (mind you people are already using the audio occlusion to prerun, but somehow we need a bigger telltale).

As I said to another person here in the forums, springtrap just shows the current dashslop design of killers is comoletely deserved, people want every killer to feel the same, making only a certain type actually effective, god I hope when ST gets nerfed to obscurity people get what they wanted: ghouls and blights, cuz it seems thats what we are asking for.