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Just Apply Pressure? Healing Meta
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And yet Pain Resonance, a Scourge Hook-Perk is one of the most used Perk. You will always find some excuse to not adapt, eh?
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It's not an excuse and that isn't comparable.
Here's the big difference! Pain res, is the only good gen regression perk left and it ALSO has the downside of hook rng, but at least the effect it causes is worth the risk. DUH people will use it. The effect is 10x better than a perk that will only counter a singular other perk and even then isn't guaranteed and even THEN the other perk can activate 8 times in a game, and even THEN it really only counters it slightly because it's not actually removing all the progress, only some of it. You are not going to be reliably stopping it all the time.
You will always find some excuse to try and make it seem like people don't want to adapt while you suggest poor counterplay, eh?
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No, it is just that Survivors have to adapt according to Killers. Yet, if something is bothering them (even if it is a non-issue like Botany Knowledge buffed a bit so that you dont need a brown Add On anymore…), they demand changes.
Pain Res is not even teh only good Gen Regression Perk, this is just you claiming something. Hook RNG is no problem at all, I never have an issue with finding a Scourge Hook, it almost never happens that I dont find one. And I highly doubt I am the outlier.
Saying that Weeping Wounds should remove all progress and is bad because it is not doing it is also a bit strange. That it is not worth it, because it is not possible to reliably stop Resurgence all the time is also… odd. This would mean that we should gigabuff a lot of Anti-Tunnel Perks, because they are not reliably stopping tunneling all the time?
Really, you reduce the Progress done by Resurgence from 70% to around 50%. On top of it Weeping Wounds applies Mangled, meaning that the Healing is slower. And IF the Killer comes back to the Hook, they will most likely either have at least a Health State of Damage if the Survivors commit OR the Healing Progress gone completely. It takes like 3 or 4 seconds to remove that 70% with Hemorrhage, it is absurdly fast.
And even IF the Survivor is fully healed you:
- Made the healing take longer due to Hemorrhage
- Made the healing take longer due to Mangled
- Have a Debuff on that Survivor which lowers their Gen Repair Speed
I dont really see how this is not value.
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Pain res is 100% the only good regression perk because every other gen regression perk has been nerfed beyond belief. Even pain res has, but at least it retained SOMETHING.
You're turning this into an us vs them argument, that I don't really care about because I'm not here to do that. My point and opinion is simple, a 2-3 second heal, is egregious. No matter what way you spin it.
I'm not saying weeping wounds should remove all progress, I never said that. I'm saying the amount of progress resurgence gives for free off a hook, is too much for weeping wounds to even matter. And yes, hook rng does affect things. To say you've never had a problem finding a scourge hook, I believe is a straight up lie.
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My point and opinion is simple, a 2-3 second heal, is egregious. No matter what way you spin it.
But Weeping Wounds makes the heal take longer than 2-3 seconds. Hemorrhage drops the heal charges done by Resurgence to 8, so 8 charges are still left. Those are done with 1,2 second/charge, so it takes around 9,6 seconds to heal from 50% to full. Big difference from the 2-3 seconds you are complaining about.
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It's the same thing as survivors who just said "oh if boons are a problem bring shattered hope".
"Bring this niche perk to only half counter this one thing"
It's silly.
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Yeah, but you will always get value out of Weeping Wounds. Even more so if Resurgence is not in play. This is really a bad comparison.
But I will save you the grasping for straws and just offer you that you can tell me in a month that I was right and Healing is not as bad as you thought it would be once Killers moved on to the next >current thing< which makes them lose games. (We get two new Survivors, with probably 3 Perks each - there got to be something which will ruin the Killer experience and makes them quit!)
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Yea except you won't because weeping wounds isn't a good perk lol. there's a reason no one uses it.
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Its fine, we wont agree. Lets just see in a month if healing is such an issue or if it was the usual overreaction.
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I've run scourge hooks a lot myself, especially this one, and it's pretty uncommon to not be able to get to a white hook.
If you're worried about that, Agitation makes that even less likely, and that perk's pretty underrated in its own right. I wouldn't say that's necessary though.
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Yes but like I told the other person, it's like saying "just run shattered hope" for when boons were broken. You're asking killers to run and waste a perk slot on a niche specific perk to half counter a strong survivor perk. It's just not good.
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Gift of Pain is nowhere near as niche as Shattered Hope. That perk doesn't even have an effect in matches without boons, but Gift of Pain has been underrated since its release, let alone since they buffed the repair penalty.
It's a damn good perk that also happens to counter this specific concern, not a niche perk that only has that one application.
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Agitation makes it very consistent
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