When are we getting Phase 2 info?

"If the matchmaking is that loose, why would they lose 200 matches in a row? Surely on plenty of occasions, they'd be matched with newbies to stomp?"

I'm sorry, but do you think occasionally winning matches against obviously bad players while losing the vast majority of the time is fun?

And it's not the same as a new toy. The difference between the game now and forced 12 hooking is a lot wider than Made For This.

We're not bleeding survivor players, though. Killer queues only ever get bad during events or new releases. Right now, I'm back to short queues and even had x1.5 BP bonus at like 8 pm last night.

Right, so he described the game then, as in, it was originally designed to not have SWF.

i don't really know what to tell you. The statement saying SWF was always intended has been provided. So maybe we have to put that particular interview over there in a box somewhere, and focus on the reality of the situation then and now?

Listen, I get that many players who primarily play killer and do so extremely well hate SWF with a passion. But the truth is without it there's no way this game lasts anywhere this long. It's existed almost all of the game's span, and the devs know they have to cautiously approach messing with how it works because we're talking around half of all survs here.

And from what I can tell, the issues most players have is the insanely strong trio and especially quad teams, which are the absolute rarest to encounter. Should a killer truly get such god-like squads regularly (which I doubt) then congratulations you're in that mythical top MMR area have fun sweating with the sweats all day. But for the vast majority of trials, that's not the reality.

You are still misunderstanding. I'm not saying i hate it, i'm saying it causes massive balance problems with this game that affects solo queue players negatively.

No, it's not. Words have definitions, bud. If you get rid of tunneling and slugging, you'll either have to giga-buff killers in literally every other way, or you'll have to nerf survivors drastically. Otherwise, the game will be dead in six months.

I'd say solo queue surv behavior hurts more than any balancing decisions then or now, with a more selfish playstyle much more likely to bring a team down.

But realistically what could further be done to bridge the experience between SWF and solos? They cannot split the queues. They apparently will not do things like a team-action debuff. They certainly will not just yeet SWF. So they do what they've been doing, baby steps that somewhat close that gap, like the HUD did quite a bit to do.

Imo the true power of SWF isn't directly comms, but midigating the randomness of solos in being able to choose your allies:

You know what builds are being run sure, but more importantly you know if they're doing a challenge/daily whatever. You know they'll come back for you if possible. You know they prolly won't let you get to second stage. And over time you learn their strengths and weaknesses and tendencies.

There's no way to get that to the solos as far as I can see it.

found a higher one immediately.

Can't find Hens' 400 winstreak. All I can find is his 219 game winstreak. 400 is significantly higher, do you have the link to it?

The rules were also, "Every perk can be used twice" which is a big restriction, but I wouldn't call it comp rules. Comp usually either straight-up bans perks, bans them against certain Killers or limits them to a single use.

Alright. I suppose that's an absolute winstreak.

Hens' streak was a 3E streak, so I feel it would be fair to use the 3K streaks as well. They are wins by any metric.

I did also edit my previous comment, as I said I would.

Wild that even Clown has a higher streak than Spirit.

Sure.

Quite honestly, I care very little for .006% of matches, or whatever arbitrary percentage they make make up.

We will not be buffing Killers prior to adjusting tunneling and slugging. Killers already control the flow of the game, no need to make them more powerful.

Ideally, we'd do it at the same time, but I don't think BHVR can. That leaves two options.

We either don't do it at all, which seems doomed to result in a slow death, or we try it and are prepared to make large adjustments to Killers or Survivors, whichever tips the balances in the correct way.

The universe where we can nerf certain Survivor abilities/items/actions instead of buffing Killers. That is an adjustment, like I said.

BHVR shouldn't make such massive changes and not be prepared to look at what the changes actually do. You could be right, and it completely destroys the balance of Killers. You really want them to push out a weak buff because they underestimated it? Or I could be right, and it doesn't upset the balance a lot of A and S-tiers, but they push a huge sweeping balance patch that makes every Killer OP.

No, if they do it, they do need to collect SOME data. Buffing and nerfing blindly is never a good idea.

Yeah, you're talking out your ass on this last point. Here are the actual numbers. DBD was not "dying" or "almost dead" or "too little too late"

DBD was doing better than it ever had prior to this. The game was actually fair, but not balanced, prior to 6.1. In which, we saw the last of the busted fun stuff being removed and the comp mindset truly take over. It also sent us into the last four years of, objectively, a Killer-sided game by design.

Just for fun, here's when I first started.

Is BHVR planning on making additional major changes to the AFK crows this year? Hiding prevention was supposed to be one of the major highlights of phase 1, but I’ve literally never seen a survivor get 3 crows for excessive hiding, since the AFK crow nerfs.

As in, I’m still in situations where the last two survivors are excessively hiding, but they just aren’t getting 3 crows because the nerfed AFK crows can be easily bypassed as survivor.

The AFK crows are absolutely useless, even those phase 1 was supposed to have Hiding Prevention.

There are still a lot of survivors ragequitting in ways that bypass the DC penalties, even though phase 1 was supposed to have Go Next Prevention.

So it would be completely fair of the phase 2 changes were barely noticeable. Like the anti-tunnel change should just be a survivor losing collision for 10 seconds after being unhooked, so killers can’t bodyblock them in basements anymore. And the anti-slugging change should be an abandon button for survivors if they are slugged and only 2 survivors are alive. And the anti-camping change should just be the entire survivor team seeing the anti-facecamp meter.

If the phase 1 changes are going to be barely noticeable, it's fair for the phase 2 changes to be barely noticeable.

BHVR spent SO MUCH TIME AND EFFORT, making sure those AFK crows felt fair for survivors, and that literally no one was "unfairly" getting AFK crows. The same energy should happen for the phase 2 changes. Killers should never ever be punished for slugging, if the survivors forced them to slug. And anti-slugging should actually involve slugging. This Conviction garbage, where the survivor can activate it even when the killer is just trying to check the area to make sure it's safe to pick up the survivor, isn't anti-slugging because the killer isn't even trying to slug at all.

I wish the MMR Update came before the extreme hiding and go next measures since MMR is a cause of those issues. What are those people doing in lobbies they shouldn't be in? My MMR is suffering because of them.

If hex totems are a problem point for the AFK crow system, then the solution should be having additional (or modified) rules specifically when an active hex totem is in the game.

Explain to me, why it's important for the AFK crows to never ever ever unfairly punish survivors, but it's perfectly fine for an anti-slugging mechanic to punish killers when they were forced to slug by the survivors.

If there is only one hook within range, and it is broken by the Breakdown perk, then the killer is forced to slug any survivor that gets knocked to the ground in that area. Most of the anti-slugging suggestions on these forums, would punish the killer even if the killer was forced to slug the survivors.

Fog vials are literally up to 4 times the area of fog crystals, and yet, survivors want fog vials to be really difficult to see out of…. even though they are literally up to 4 times the area of fog crystals? How is that fair? Why on earth are the fog vials this big?

1. It's fine for survivors to force the killer to slug. I never said otherwise.
2. It's not fine for the killer to be punished by an anti-slugging mechanic, when they were forced to slug.

As in, it's fine for Breakdown to force the killer to slug. But it's not ok for survivors to get something like a basekit Unbreakable, that works when the killer was forced to slug. Anti-slugging should happen when the killer is purposely trying to excessively slug. Otherwise, survivors are just going to weaponize the anti-slugging mechanic, just like they did on the PTB that had basekit Unbreakable.

"Forced" is such a strange word to use. No one is forcing you. Unlike the person on the ground, you still have agency. You can at least act.

But you're also missing the fact that it's unfair for the person who was slugged. The hook breakdown wouldn't have been that person's fault if they were the rescuer. Neither would a flashlight save or a sabo be their fault. It's the person who preformed the action's doing. That's who you should be pursuing. I cannot tell you how many times I've been targeted by a frustrated killer because someone else decided to save me in a soloq match. I didn't ask them to, they just did it. Many people in soloq will do things like flashlight saves and dangerous unhooks just for points or lols. And I personally believe killers are entitled to their [fairly acquired] hookings. And I shouldn't have to lay on the ground for mutiple minutes or get tunneled out because someone else did something.

You're also arguing against a system that hasn't been implemented and that we don't even know anything about yet. Whatever the new system is, it's obviously not going to kick in if one person alone is on the ground for like five seconds. There are going to be parameters.

It's pretty clear you only care about one side of this game. Hopefully whoever intakes all this feedback notices that sort of skewed bias.