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Is new clown A Tier?

MoZo
MoZo Member Posts: 772
edited August 2 in General Discussions

i’ve had this wrapped around my head for the past couple days since the update dropped. clown feels like an unstoppable beast in chase and actually has a little bit better map mobility since his main play style (spamming yellow bottles) works pretty good with traversing the map too. i’ve only played against new clown once and let’s just say that might’ve been the fastest game i’ve ever played against clown before. curious to hear your thoughts on new clown and what tier he is currently in. i’m still on the fence if he’s top of B/low A or just straight up A tier.

Comments

  • HeroLives
    HeroLives Member Posts: 3,233

    yeh.

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,389

    From what I am being told he is busted tier.

  • Astel
    Astel Member Posts: 762

    I feel like he's comparable to the Ghoul, or even possibly to the Blight. And yet he is much easier to play than those two.

  • KinP1kmin
    KinP1kmin Member Posts: 5

    He's going to get the skull merchant treatment then become largely forgotten. This was predicted way before by a 1000+ pages Clown main.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,201

    I've played against a few since the update and I've played as him. I don't feel like the experience, from either side, is that remarkable. I'm still winning against him sometimes, and I'm still losing as him sometimes. I'd say I'm landing about mid-range when I use him. He is hella simple to use though.

    A merciful clown used his yellow bottles to propel me around the map to find the hatch which was very fun, so at least his players aren't full blown toxic yet.

  • BorisDDAA
    BorisDDAA Member Posts: 523

    Bhvr made clown busted tier so people can forget about ghoul for a few days.

  • CrossTheSholf
    CrossTheSholf Member Posts: 868

    He's strong..... But no longer the clown :(

  • SOULWARRIOR71K
    SOULWARRIOR71K Member Posts: 496

    He is busted, hence why all of a sudden everyone is a clown main now and run basically the same exact build they saw on YouTube.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 7,846
    edited August 2

    He's busted and also extremely one dimensional. There is nothing interesting about his current gameplay at all and it barely even feels like playing Clown.

    I'm honestly amazed at how a pair of 1-second number tweaks have completely messed up a killer design.

  • CompetitifDBD
    CompetitifDBD Member Posts: 839

    I would say hes a mid B tier killer up from high C. Being faster is good, but its not really a power other than being slightly faster (this is a seperate problem, as his power is really boring and quite literally takes no skill now). Kaneki is way faster, has a secondary method of damaging survivors and built in slowdown, for just a measly cooldown. Thats way better than clowns 12% haste for only 6 seconds.

    Typically B tier killers are the most balanced in the game, but this power is just boring to play against now, while not making him much stronger and only making him unfun to play against. If they wanna fix him while keeping him at this strength, they should revert the haste buff and even nerf it to maybe 8% while keeping the yellow activation time at only a second and add a new effect of making the cloud disappear faster (so survivors can't get your haste as easily. Make Tonic bottle clouds much bigger to compensate for the nerfs. Increase the overall bottle capacity to 8 bottles. All changes are to incentivise the use of both bottles, while not having either one too powerful

  • MoZo
    MoZo Member Posts: 772

    for those with the answer of “he’s busted”, would that be around S tier? i’m trying to get a general opinion on what tier he sits in.

  • SOULWARRIOR71K
    SOULWARRIOR71K Member Posts: 496

    I’m genuinely curious why people say it doesn’t make him much better. It does. There is a reason why a ton of games are now clown with haste builds. If he wasn’t much stronger, we wouldn’t now be seeing clowns easily 3k/4k with one or less slowdowns equipped.

  • sizzlingmario4
    sizzlingmario4 Member Posts: 7,846

    He's not S tier. The yellow bottles are just really strong in a really boring and unskillful way. It's not healthy design

  • MechWarrior3
    MechWarrior3 Member Posts: 5,389

    There is no way there is any truth in this statement. lol.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,201
    https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/3975388#Comment_3975388

    I think there's more because there's been a change and people are curious. I haven't been getting stomped by the Clowns I've faced. People will drop off when the novelty wears off.

  • cogsturning
    cogsturning Member Posts: 2,201
    edited August 2
  • tes
    tes Member Posts: 1,223
    edited August 2

    U can’t outplay him in loop at all now. He is just broken. Why B tier?

    I don't think He should be assigned to a specific tier now. Like the original SM, its design is now simply unhealthy and allows for abuse of the game mechanics. For SM it is a dependence on 3 gens, for the clown it is haste

  • CompetitifDBD
    CompetitifDBD Member Posts: 839

    Ofc u can still outplay him, its not like hes blight or smth, someone whos way faster. You can still play most loops the same since hindering isn't common or much of a threat to stop you from making tiles. Him being faster is different than survivors being slower

  • tes
    tes Member Posts: 1,223
    edited August 2

    If player on clown has at least some skill, u simply never be able to stay in 90% of every loop against him. He can be 5.6 with three pwyf stacks, batteries and rapid brutality. It's simply unhealthy.

    His changes on slow down bottles was half reverted. If he uses both of them, u are helpless.

    Clowns still actively use purple bottles. If not, well, they miss half of his potential being unbearable

  • TheGoone
    TheGoone Member Posts: 571

    Yeah Atier but no skill involved anymore

  • SoGo
    SoGo Member Posts: 4,258

    Can confirm.

    I played one game to try him out and was falling asleep.

    (Also because I had the Obsession hide all the time and accidentally tunneled out Ada, who was hiding very badly in lockers, and also because they 3-genned themselves.)

  • tjt85
    tjt85 Member Posts: 1,657

    He seems to be similar to Freddie in strength to me, but I rarely play either of these Killers so I'm not sure my opinion really counts for much. But I could see most players at least putting haste Clown in the top half of their personal Killer tier list.

    I definitely didn't have Clown suddenly becoming one of the best Killers in the game on my 2025 DBD Bingo card, that's for sure. Freddie got a rework because he was terrible and the players asked for it, but who even asked for these changes?

  • cburton311
    cburton311 Member Posts: 462

    except I see him in 80% of my matches now…clown, ghoul, clown, clown, clown, myers, clown, clown, clown, blight was this morning…i mean i get it, play it before the fix but the game is broken right now.