I’m sick of seeing pain res and deadman’s switch every single match.

Don´t worry.

If you play longer you will get more meta changes than you like.

And you can bet that with the next shake maybe these perks disappear but that something way worse may arrive.

You can bring whatever you want; most regression perks are currently pure placebo with no real impact on the match. They only serve to make a completely one-sided victory to feel even more crushing for survivors, but when the killer is losing they won't help at all.

I'm not even lying when I say I see way more variety in survivor perks than killer perks, even just bringing fun perks like scene partner and the guitar one are so common, aura builds, speed builds etc there is way more variety than the killer builds in all of my games. Killers ALWAYS bring DMS and pain res it's like a nice rare surprise when they don't

I get why killers do it but I was finding this incredibly tedious to verse, especially when I get hit with Surge followed by Pain Res and DMS. It is one reason I went on a break from DBD…. I was going to come back for 2v8 but Legion.

I would far prefer some alternative to slow gens, over being able to stack slowdowns as it really is depressingly boring to verse all the time

Only this "plenty" in the case of the Nurse sounds very funny
Because her attack is now M2 and she is 3.85 ms killer, not M1 - playable builds for her are either auras, or kicking/slowing genes, or hexes but they will be cleaned in the first minutes of the game...
Oh yeah, you can sacrifice addons to make her 4.4 or 4.6 to get M1 perks, only then "plenty" will be available for "fun" builds

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People who write that there are no other alternatives are right
Either you take the meta and have a chance to win / play longer than 5 minutes , or they repair 5 gens faster than you can play with your fun build

When you playing with your "fun" build, you expect it to work, but it doesn't, far from it against normal survs
Convince me as much as you want, but with normal survs you have almost no chance, and with people who loot chests, clean totems, stealth in the corner or run around the map looking for something - everything will work out

I am more than sure that the creator of this topic is either a newbie himself, or plays solo, where the mathmaking is a real pain for both sides, and the teammates are to blame or mathmaking
If you or your teammate know(s) that the killer has DMS, then either do not get up from the gen, or what normal survs do - start (you or your teammate) repair the 0% generator and immediately stop it, DMS will block 0% gen

Even when I'm playing survs with coms, my (casual) teammates need to be reminded 200 times what each perk does and how to counter it, because they don't think about what they're doing
Or they run to unhook after a second when someone is hooked, instead of using the time of each stage to the maximum

If you want to get rid of this perk, you need to nerf it in exchange for something equally effective, and not just kill it because you don't know how / want to play against it

P.S.
For those who might be offended by the so-called "normal" - meaning survivors with a good amount of experience in the game

All survivor "meta" perks are counterable by not doing something unfun for the survivor such as tunnelling and slugging, whereas the killer meta perks are uncounterable you just have to accept your gen is blocked for ages or it's losing an insane amount of progress so u have to sit and hold M1 for another 30 seconds

Stats alone show survs are way more likely to bring meta.

At least with DMS the killer has to earn it (being more of a win more perk) while survs just get things like windows, deja for FREE or get things like DH and DS for losing.

The investment requirement for these perks is just not even close.

If DS is really a consistent thorn in your side, that's kind of a self-report, tbh. I get DS'd like once every few weeks. If the killer isn't tunneling, it's a wasted perks slot.

For the first couple years I played killer, every match you were staring down at least three of the survs running some combination of old DH/DS/UB/BT/IW/Adren. Guaranteed. There was as little perk variance as you'd ever see.

It's relatively wide open now compared to that mess.

But to echo others, seeing the same regression perks now is largely a result of a lack of options. Most of the other alternatives have been nerfed to the ground. And I'm talking about the reasonable ones, not garbage like old Eruption.

im a killer and I'd love to see gen regression perks nerfed and I don't mean a love tap I mean full reworks or cutting efficiency by half

killer perk variety only looks terrible because obnoxiously annoying perks like these are around. but OG Pain Res was the "problematic" perk lol..

gen blocking is just a different flavour of Eruption...

One of the many reasons why stacking had to be removed from the game. To prevent two perks from being used together, we now have two useless perks, which will remain useless to prevent the situation from repeating. If only the highest value were taken into account, these problems would never arise and we would have two perks to choose from, plus 3 other slots for different uses.

The devs made kicking gens faster, eliminated one tap and increased the completion time so that The Killer could use other perks, but it didn't do anything. If the devs made generators take two hours, it still wouldn't be enough for some people.

Of course it didn't do any thing. You extend gen speeds by 10 seconds then add 27 perks that improve gen speed and expect it to be a balance move? The gen kick speed wasn't enough to even notice and they completely abolished gen strategy by only allowing 10 kicks no matter the regression amount of those kicks. So nope, can't be happy about much there.

Every time Killers get something viable other than gen regression, Survivors shriek about it until it gets rendered useless. Just take a look at a few months ago: hex builds suddenly became a viable alternative with a simple Thrill of the Hunt buff because they weren't getting cleansed right out of the gate and would finally last long enough to provide value and be defensible. So what happened?

People cried and threw tantrums about it until it got nerfed about 2 weeks later and now hex builds suck again. Then the Pentimento nerf came around which utterly destroyed them for the foreseeable future (because now the hex builds 'last resort' is garbage).

TotH wasn't 'viable', it was busted as hell. It's still viable, just not able to create scenarios without counterplay anymore.

I'm more surprised that more people doesn't hate on Friends till the End (don't know if I can word my true expression about it without facing the banhammer). But I am really tired of seeing that god-forsaken perk almost every single game.
Had it not picked obsessions randomly, and instead prioritized people that hasn't yet been hooked, I wouldn't have been that cross about it. But when you are in the middle of getting unhooked, only for that damn perk to light up on you, knowing that there is going to be a tunnel off the hook.. I don't think I can let that one slide.