Ghouls 50% hinder needs removing
I hope this isn’t intentional because you remove kidnap and basically add it basekit like what ????
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It's fair trade. Ghoul is one of most balanced killers.
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I agree, traper is better than him
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I know this is rage bait but I actually enjoy going against ghoul but the hinder and vaulting is just cheese for a already really strong killer like wesker is way weaker and his vault is useless lmao
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don’t pre drop pallets vs ghoul there’s your fix.
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Don't think it's intentional.
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Yes my brother I’ll just win every 50/50 wether they will walk through the pallet or not after looping it dw thank you for the counterplay
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Well if you're gonna get hit anyway from a kidnap tech or a grab attack, you should just hug the vaultable so you firce a grab and get more distance from the injure. This makes a huge difference when you're injured already and not marked, you can force a grab instead of a kidnap, giving you a longer chase.
Kidnap teching is stupid, but it is preventable
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there’s no kidnap tech it’s gone.
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Well, theres this new hindering percentage that essentially just brought it back. Yes you can move again, but at 2 meters per second, basically just pike being stuck in place by kidnap tech
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Nice Joke. But Ghould is decent balanced B tier, trapper is top 3 worst killers, depending on add ons used.
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Winning against Kaneki is cringe ez. If you struggle just get better, simple. Why nerfing balanced killers, when there are 75 % underpowered killers that need massive buffs.
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His lunge shouldn't damage you period. There is no way to dodge it. Literally a free hit.
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B Tier?? Are you nuts? I'd rather face a p100 nurse than this busted killer. At least nurses blinks are dodgeable.
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But you don’t need to win 50/50? If he gonna vault and hinder survivor, he needs to prepare his leap, which means he can’t hit you with m1. And survivor is getting sound notification when he is cancelling power.And you’ll have a safe window of time to predrop/stun
You aren’t supposed to play 50/50 most of the time with him, this killer is about survivor catching timings
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Bro, kaneki is not b tier lol, he is way stronger than that.
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I don’t know if you know this but ghoul has a lot ALOT of animation bugs sometimes he doesn’t pull up even though he’s pulled up sometimes he’s still pulled up on your screen but he can m1
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I know about his animations bug, but they aren’t related to what I’m talking about. Because when killer cancel power his tentacles has clear transition to become less stiff + u are getting notified with specific sound. And no matter how much I’m playing against this killer, this sound never was bugged itself and indication is pretty clear. I’m talking about moments where he is not leaping but waiting for you to drop pallet to vault later.
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Nemesis/Xeno/Executioner/Houndmaster/Huntress/DeathSlinger will wait for survivor to drop pallet before insta hit. So, the wise counterplay is to pretend you are about to drop and bait this killer for m2, so they can’t insta m1 you later. Same with ghoul, but it seems people don’t really get this yet. Because it’s actually pretty unintuitive. But you have to learn - if you are dropping pallet when he is in front of you, you will get a down. It’s not the scamper, not the wesker vault mechanic. You have to force him a bite or cancel of m2 before drop, and don’t let him body block you. And his bugs aren’t related to this thing. Because in this moment he doesn’t do leap. This killer is completely counterplay shift w and you can predrop only when u get this small window of time, or when u are sure he run out of tokens. And yet still, you don’t need to win 50/50 every time.
Ghoul is problematic and I don’t deny it. But the point are u providing here as complaint is manageable as soon as you learn counterplay
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I know the counterplay it’s just kinda a boring counter play tbh
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Before you were talking about completely different. Your whole post is about how this thing unmanageable and cheese, and now you change the tone suddenly…
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He's not if you are good survivor.
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Ghoul can jump to your location across the map in 5 seconds, so it baffles me that he needs to inflict hindred to Survivors after vaulting.
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I don't know how this killer hasn't gotten a more severe nerf yet. He's still way too strong and feels so cheap to play against sometimes
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Buddy you just aren’t playing against good kanekis if camping a pallet works every time it is genuinely a 50 and a boring one at that
Yes I know the counterplay but it’s boring and cheese considering the rest of Ghouls kit wesker is way worse than ghoul and his vault is useless
Also you can’t really call winning a 50 counterplay because that’s what it is lmao
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I didn’t say you have to camp a pallet, I said you have to greed if see the power is active and catch timings. I literally compared him to killers where camping pallet is a worse tactic ever.
The arguement “You just haven’t seen good ghoul”. Bruh. This killer don’t have high skill ceiling. This argument can be applied to your way of play as well, just be a good survivor
I wish Ghoul to change but his vaults is the last thing I found cheese on him. His cheese in mobility, 6 perks build thanks to stupid addons and deep wound. Thats what people actually can’t counter a lot
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what you’re describing is winning 50s the ghouls mobility isn’t the issue the cheesy vault is
Without the vault ghoul would actually take skill that’s my whole issue with overtuned vault built into a kit
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How you wish to talk, I never personally struggled. It’s not 50/50 when you realise killer is in power and can’t even use m1
Fast mobility and free hit scan with deep wound is less issue? Well maybe yes, if survivor initially struggles in gen efficiency. For fast play matches it’s literally the free slowdown and pressure that ruines play
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