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that is the best post i seen that explains how i feel about the game current standing and the PTB incoming sadly this is the way the game will go unless drastic action is done and fair balancing is done which starts with listening to the killer community more often and devs giving actual buffs not useless ones or palcebo ones like the 6.1.0 patch

Ok bro. You trigger the antifacecamp but you're not kissing the hook? Funny. I haven't seen a single killer or myself trigger it even by proxy camping but sure. And for ptb changes, how do you know? Have you played it already? NO

He sums it all up perfectly tbh. As does GOD WOFLE in his new video about the stream

@panaku "the point of what i said it's about their distance now is so huge you almost can't patrol the area"

They did indicate in the live stream that the bar fill rate has been decreased by 50% and that the closer/longer the killer stays in the area, the faster it will begin to fill. They stated this was specifically to help with the situation you named of having a "good area" as you call it to guard. The point of the 50% nerf to the anti-camp fill rate was to account for the killer moving in and out of that range while patrolling. Remember, if during your patrol a survivor moves into the area of the hook that completely stops the camp bar too. Lots of variables in play to account for.

I think we need to give it a try before we jump on it so harshly. The area may need to be adjusted in the end, but there's no way to know without testing. ☺️

The ptb hasn't even happened and everyone is pre-crying. This is why nothing can ever improve with this game. The resistance to any change is so severe.

Ok bud. Conveniently you also ignore @Rock_KBob posts about it being a PTB. Sounds like you just want to vent.

I also love how everyone in this forum thinks they know more than the BHVR employees. They have people whose entire job it is to watch the community and take in feedback. They are listening to the community, who've been complaining about how easy tunneling is to secure a cheap win. They're trying to make it slightly harder to do. It's not the end of the world. If one person being hard to find for a brief period ruins your games the problem might be you.

Since you're so pressed about the anti-camp, the range only increased by 4 meters, yet the starting rate is 50% slower. That's a buff to people who can just step four meters back and still camp. Hell, they can just stay at 16 meters with how slow that start rate is.

just sended my though and probably many other person have the same tought about the state of the game and dev

Yeah sure other people have the same thoughts because you literally copy and pasted someone else's list from another post lol

^this. I didn't comment on this aspect of the post as it felt really inflammatory and didn't want this thread to go that route right off, however, I had the same thoughts as you.

I felt this livestream was not only a great look into the fact that the Devs ARE listening, but also that they care and play their game. They really seem like they are trying to balance stats with community feedback best they can. No one can please everyone, but everything regarding this stream seemed like a step in the right direction.

Funny how people call the game handholding for killers (mostly unique hook bonuses) but than survivors are getting changes like these to buff their basekit and all killer gets is more blood points and few seconds of bloodlust that wont be good for like 60% of all current killers which have to use their power or its still better, killers like blight to ghostface wont benefit from it and only killers like slinger,knight (if you dont need use gusrd for break or send him to patrol), clown (yellow bottle is still better than this), demogorgan (if he doesnt have portal there), huntress, legion,bubba.

If you say that I mentioned more killers that get some use from it well trust me there are more that wont or have better options from their power like its better for hag to set traps on the way across the map than just hold w with loodlust for 15 seconds (this is only good in very specific situations).

Like it or not the killer rewards for not tunneling are bad and tunneling is only harder thats all so just another nerf to the pig and many more killers nothing more.

When I look at pacth note all I see is better protection with buffed antitunnel for survivor (huge buff), better antislug for survivor (medium but more low buff becasue now they can make it 90 seconds, there isnt anything that survivors will crawl on the ground like snakes super fast and recovering at the same time while crawling on top of that building up the meter that will let them pick themself up as recover bar reaches maximum so basekit BT and when all of this isnt in one thing now they will recover fully from ground when they will be there 120 seconds but doesnt have any crap I mentioned before from old ptb so now it can be 90 seconds or 100), Killer reward for unique hooks (super low buff, its just more blood points with speed coming in form of bloodlust which like half or even more killers wont get any benefit from only killers in specific situations or the ones that doesnt have to use their power and have no mobility like slinger who is 110 speed and uses his gun only when survivor is close in his range).

Skullmerchant gets small buff because devs dont want to invest recourses to her (more real is they just dont want spend time making her rework because she is good only for skins that her mains buy, she isnt good for them to rework because many people will hate her just because she exist and they dont want to change rework every patch which would most likely happened with hers).

Thats like all or did I miss something maybe one thing some survivor addons will get changed like BNP, syranges,styptic (which is nerf like big one but truth is these addons do almost nothing against blight and then one syrange or styptic can change the whole game for trapper or clown which is nuts but real) and maybe some perks due to stronger antitunnel and thats all.

So when I look at this killers that started tunnel on 3 gens and less will now have to tunnel earlier because it will be harder to do so latter because of these changes, killers will tunnel because its still best and rewards arent worth compare to having it just harder because stronger antitunnel basekit, survivors meta addons will get change and I hope they wont be super weak but busted more than now or this patch is bye bye to m1 killers and weaker ones just blight up (indirect message from devs to killers that play against good survivors that wont loose to legion on 4-5 gens) and merchant being lesser priority than other killers which is just another middlefinger to all players which doesnt purely hate her no matter what.

Overall from what we know by effects and numbers its big nerf to killer side and buff to survivor side, or you want to tell me survivors are the ones that are getting nerfed (maybe the addons that are meta but we dont know what their changes are dont we)?

Oh God, not them.

Killer equivalent to the Survivors crying in 2018 about losing infinites.

It wouldn't be so bad if there was a rule that kept this amount of posts about the same thing regulated so eveeyone can screech at each other in one or two big threads. But no, we spam the forum with endless posts about the same things.

Yeah I ove the uptick in opinionated people with 5 posts that always spring up whenever a single thing in this game might possibly change. I'd love to get out of this cycle of social media and content creators deciding what's best for the game they profit from.

I dislike when people say “it’s just a PTB, it’s meant for testing”. The reason people are still upset is because it makes them feel that they are very disconnected from the game that many of these ideas even made it past the drawing board. It shows us where they’re thinking. The entire patch could not even go through and it’s still a problem since it points where the games heading. It’s the principle of where they’re at, not just this patch going through or not specifically. This is why people are upset, even when it’s “just a PTB for testing”.