Please remove option to abandon after getting downed three times

It was just fix for short time before antislug was put into live but from previous experience with devs I fear this will stay. Im getting it often in 2v8 every time Im sluged and get to part where I can get up with my class power which was buffed because it starts earlier than in previous 2v8 where you got this at 95% of recover bar, second time Im downed I can just abandon which is nuts but devs are kinda slow in fixing and reverting these temporary fixes or nerfs that can be reverted like gen kuck regression perks because now they can have strong regression, there is limit on how many times you csn as killer damage gen which didnt existed before and you could regress them infinitely.

But if the Killer loses you there is still the chance to crawl out? Isn´t it?

Then what is it for now then? You will be able to get up after some time because of basekit unbreakable after 120 seconds but then you have option to leave after two downs which in first you have to recover to max. Thats like killer could abandon after he gets flashlight save or pallet save from survivor its same kind of logic like if survivor wiggles from your grasp two times you could abandon. If it wasnt temporary why then its still there when you will get counterplay for slugging into basekit either they should remove it or increase the slug number to like 3 or 4 times instead two which is just one slug into down and free escape in form of abandon which by the way doesnt work correctly in devs stats and data which are key thing they balance the game around kinda funny isnt it.

Yeah but the buttom and the option to abandon wouldn't appear, even if you were the last survivor and slugged, but be honest, would you abandon when you have a chance to escape even if the buttom to abandon was there?

Idk whats off for you thats my personal opinion, releasing antislug to early without testing would be bad and more likely onesided so they came up with new situation for abandon when survivors get sluged more they can quit thats all how I see it the real question now is will it stay the same as it is with antislug change which will give survivors basekit solution for sluging or will it be removed or the requirement number will increase thats what matters now.

Sometimes you gotta figure out some things alone because other side wont explain them to you or justify them.

Yeah the whole abandon system is a complete mess and needs changes. It's gone way past it's original purpose of avoiding toxicity (which is a good feature), to now it's become so flexible that it's just a built in "go next faster" feature and allows people to bale on their teammates early. It's literally a dev sanctioned allowed DC feature rofl. It also for some wild reason won't let the killer abandon even after everyone else has abandoned and it's all bots left without giving up his win?! Like what? Who's idea was this? The killer is punished when all the survivors leave and forced to be the janitor doing clean up against all bots.

Oh and this isn't even getting into that our stats given to us on the official dbd stat tracker website are completely worthless because of this abandon feature since it doesn't count any of those matches on it. It's just misleading players.

Kinda crazy we can just leave if we're downed twice

That's what everybody does.

I disagree with your idea on the bot, people were upset. Both killer and survivor to deal with a first second dc, because of exactly "not wanting to deal with x killer" and making the match absolutely horrendous experience, this could also potentially cause the same toxic scenes

Honestly its just used disrespectfully, once I down the last Survivor they quit before I can mori.
They cant even stay to watch the Mori, but Killers HAVE to watch and push Survivors out of the exit gates??

That just isn't fair, I have to watch their T-bagging to bring the game to a close but they can dip out the second I win.

so, when killer downed you 3 times, the game is "over"?

Aside from the obvious answer of killers whose power relies on slugging (like oni, but especially twins) they also made it easier to avoid the killer's attention when returning to a slug with the changes to picking yourself up and the crawling speed. And thats not even talking about perks like Conviction or Tenacity that allow for even more relocation.

As for the last part, how far do we need to move the goal post? You're supposed to try because you're still playing the game. I don't see that as any different than killers who have to wait for survivors to leave at the exit gates, which gets argued against since it would end the game prematurely (regardless of how much or little) due to the killer not being replaced by a bot. You answered your own question both with the fact that hatch is still possible, and also that a gate escape is also still possible. If you want out that bad as the last survivor with less chance than you're willing to participate in, just run into the killer and accept the mori you won't have to even watch because you'll be allowed to abandon before it goes off. Think of it like the survivor equivalent of "hitting them out" but with a lot less downtime and BM.

I'm well aware of how much people have (and continue to) object to actually playing the game that they bought for the express purpose of playing. Unfortunately after a point it becomes more about their addiction to the game than the game itself, chasing dopamine hits and refusing when they're denied. You can never please someone who only wants to win, but you can help that person see more to competition than the desired outcome. Thats why I tend to recommend advice on making the most of bad situations, and game design focused around reducing unnecessary frustrations. Its also why I still think MMR and how it was implemented was one of the worst things for player mentalities in the game.

It definitely existed before it, but I would certainly agree that the result focused metrics for the game have empowered a lot of it. With emblems you could at least lose something like a 4E or 4K and still have some verification that you played in a skilled way. Dying with a 2 pip made you feel like Atlas, and it was up to the player whether they focused on his burden or his accomplishment. It wasn't perfect, but this version of MMR, and especially its obfuscation paired with things like misleading personal stats, causes it to be more about disparaging others ("You wouldn't know, I'm at HIGH MMR") and doesn't even allow the personal growth/accomplishment aspect it is supposed to in order to encourage climbing.

Depends on the situation. Maybe.

I believe they do it more for the Killers who just slug for whatever twisted sadistic pleasure they get from it. The ones who just leave Survivors on the ground, not even trying to hook anyone, expecting teammates to repeatedly pick them up. I refer to those as "bleed out matches," since it's clear that the Killer's objective is to bleed everyone out, and that's the most boring and annoying thing to face. Even with the abandon option, I may still opt to just eat the DC penalty, because I refuse to participate in those matches.

Oh, I see things from the opponent's perspective too. I've been bled out by killers because the teammates kept sweating their tails off to prevent them from hooking me. Yes, it was annoying af, but I understand why they did it.