What do you do when you get tunneld?
Hello everyone,
today I would love to get some informations from you and your playstyle when you notice you get tunneld.
Often I try to understand both sides in DbD but around this topic I won´t get the right grip.
Often people claim that it is impossible to do something if the Killer goes for you when you got unhooked. But… what are you doing with all the time you get endurance and speed buff? I really don´t get it. In my honest opinion 10 seconds are more than enough time to get to the next loop, pallet or window.
Even if you get hit off hook you get an even bigger speed boost and head start so you could reach safety or do I miss something again?
If you don´t manage to get to a loop in 10 seconds… what are you doing in that time? Or is that the same I saw in 2v8 when Survivors getting hit faster than I can blink by the same M1 Killer?
Please I really wanna know…
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I rarely unequip DS. Safe predrops, bring to gen if teammate is not injured and gen on low progress to let him take a hit. I make tunneling for killer looking unattractive. It’s extremely situational. Sometimes I bring killer to gen if notice there are safe loop there (while other area is instant death). Killer can distract on gen, kick it,and I have time took him even more far, or he changes target.
If I’m on death hook and killer is hardtunneler, I do everything to bring him as far away as possible from team and just waste time. I’m not trying to survive, I’m buying time for team, because I’m already doomed. The good thing if my teammates read this and going for save only after 40 seconds. 30 sec is enough for reach, group, tap, and unhook even if killer camping.Honestly, it’s really, really rare killer were able to bodyblock my 10 s timer. Even in basement. And usually it was my bad play, or teammate one.
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It depends on the killer Kaneki for example can catch you up quite easily. Still most of the time people lose the endurance right after the unhook as the killer hits them to get rid of it. After that it depends of the skill levels of the survivor and killer in question. In killer side it also depends on the killers powers as its not the same if its Nurse or if its a Trapper. It also depends on the events that happened before like how many pallets you used the first chase and then how many did you use on the second. You could be hooked on an area where everything is used so you can't rely on pallets and in some maps windows are not really anyway strong. In some cases the survivor just stops trying to run because they don't enjoy the just getting chased without getting to participate in rest of the gameplay.
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You die. Plain and simple. If killer decides to proxy you on hook just DC and go next.
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I just GG next
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I do my best and then go play something else.
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Most of the time endurance doesn't get you anywhere, except maybe an unsafe pallet, which doesn't help you much. Of course it depends on the map and the Killer, too. If you get tunneled by a Nurse, you're just ###### no matter what you do.
I don't bother running anti-tunnel perks because I don't get tunneled that much to justify having them on all the time, and there are other perks I can make much better use of. I wouldn't even call them "anti-tunnel" because all they do is delay the inevitable. If I get tunneled, I know I'm dead, whether I last five seconds in chase or five minutes, with or without those tunneling defense perks. So if I'm already on a losing streak, I just let them take me out.
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You're injured and you might be in a bad spot. The killer also might body block you and count to 10. They might have high mobility or anti-loop. They might use aura read to teleport to your location and down you mid heal with no warning. They might be lurking nearby with Insidious. Sometimes you think the killler is gone and they fling themselves to your location without warning. It often is uncounterable if add-ons, perks, and abilities catch you by surprise.
Also, expecting every single survivor to be a great looper while any killer with low skill can tunnel is unfair.
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I get to interact with the killer and an opportunity to improve my looping skills instead of just holding M1 on a gen that even a toddler can do. Bring it on!
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Waste as much time as possible and hope my teammates do gens instead of pointlessly running after the killer while they tunnel me.
The issue always gets framed as the killer and the person being tunneled. What the other 3 survivors do when a player is being tunneled is equally, if not more important. The other 3 players should be slamming gens.
Not once in the history of DbD has a hard tunneling killer stopped tunneling because 2 survivors ran after them. You're just giving them free game delay on top of an early elimination.
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And this is why it counters you so hard.
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if i had a bad chase and the killer is coming back to hook every 5 seconds and still wants to tunnel me out even though i played like ass, and i see no gen progress im going next. idgaf.
if im being hard tunnelled after 1 gen pops, ima ds that hoe, dead hard that hoe, tbag that hoe, and pre drop every pallet on that hoe and emote "NO, COME" at that hoe. they obviously want the smoke!
if the killer is waiting out my endurance and wants to tunnel and i cant make it to anything because they intentionally hooked me in a dead zone, i will accept my fate and let them have a boring easy match that will likely end with the stragglers ratting, and if so? deserved. they clearly want it more. so they can have it!
if im being tunnelled but the game is still progressing and i see everyone playing their part, i will try my hardest for the team. even if i die at 1/2/3 gens.
its good to remember not every game is as simple as black and white though, entirely just depends on how they're playing. ive played for a while now and its easy to spot if someone is tunnelling maliciously or because they need the pressure, usually i can decipher between the two. also depends on how much fun is being had. theres a lot of variables. but yeah, sometimes being tunnelled is fun, sometimes, its draining just depends.
ping also matters, if im being tunnelled by a 300ms / (80ms+) killer i aint playing that.
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I loop the killer and waste as much time as possible and make it painful enough for the killer that he won't want to chase me anymore.
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Often people claim that it is impossible to do something if the Killer goes for you when you got unhooked.A bit of an exaggeration unless you're focused on people who frequently use hyperbole. Unfair is different from impossible.
Even if you get hit off hook you get an even bigger speed boost and head start so you could reach safety or do I miss something again?Depending on the killer and the map RNG, this could either be a lot of safety, give you a 50/50, or next to worthless.
Anyway, if I'm tunneled, I play it out.
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usually just yell at my monitor and then equip DS the next game only to get 0 value from it and then take it off the game after only to get tunneled. it’s a never ending cycle…
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Hello everyone,
Thanks for so many answers. I must say I am kinda amused. While some people really explained what they do in game or on a personal level I find it funny that the most upvotes just went to the "I give up, there is nothing I can do" fraction.
How can it bethat some of you try to make the best out of it and get shamed (down voted) for improving or helping to improve others while others just drop dead?
Why does it feel more and more like some people on this forum really think that as soon you get unhooked you just stand there afk? How do you want to play? AFK Skill Check Simulator on Gens or do you want to show the Killer who is the boss and try your best? Why do you even start when you say "You get tunneld everymatch and I don´t want to play."
How is it possible that this is so tolerated?
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Your teammates surely appreciate your efforts.
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Most regulars on this forum have been playing for awhile, have seen it all, and are probably just tired at this point. Their tolerance levels are low.
But to the question of what to do, it's impossible to say since your next move (as some others have pointed out) is really dependent on a number of factors. Killer, pallet and tile RNG, map, perks, etc. In some situations i would understand if a survivor just stood there and let themselves get downed (ie hooked in a deadzone, no DS or OTR, and your unhooker doesn't bother to try and take a hit or aggro).
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It's strange that the situation in which tunneling occurs is not specified...
I only feel upset if I'm being tunneled on 4-5 gens, since this basically makes no sense, but if you take a situation where 2-3 generators remain, then I try to take as much time as possible from the killer, because I understand that he tunnels to even out the odds, I also don't see anything wrong with tunneling in the endgame
So for me, people who scream that they are being tunneled on 2-3 gens or in the endgame are associated with newbies who do not understand why this is happening
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Also a related opinion with these 2 posts
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I dont get it either. I want to note I am a Killer main in this topic so my opinion maybe different.
I dont see Tunneling a Issue as people say it is. Not every match i had that tunneling works. Its so easily countered if you play Ur cards right.
I find tunneling the best way to learn looping as Survivor. I can see why its annoying but it maybe just be a skill issue on survivors not knowing how to play. Which is a lack of a good tutorial to help Survivors learn.
Plus with Killer: there is nothing that makes you not need to tunnel in most matches. Gens go by so fast it makes most Killers impossible to play without tunneling. Extreme hiding is still a issue like I would only find one survivor the entire match and im still fagged for tunneling when I couldn't find anyone else.
I made myself a rule to tunnel once per game unless it's a bot. I slug only if I need to as a strategy unless its a Sabotaging Squad which its impossible to counter without Slugging depending on the Killer im playing and map.
Tunneling is never toxic or personal on my part its just how the game goes sometimes.
Theres two ways they can solve tunneling.
1: Better Tutorial for all players to help them learn how to counter tunneling to make it not as useful for Killers:
2: solve the Reasons why Killers Tunnel so Much so it gives less reasons to tunnel every match so its not as often to encounter for survivors:
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I really want only one thing to know from all the people who say they give up immediatly.
I want to hear what they need to have the feeling that tunneling is not a problem anymore? I am even open for hot takes like:
- Survivors should get fully healed when unhooked
- Survivors are untouchable till someone else is hooked
- A force field which doesnt allow the Killer to go close to the survivor
I just want an opinion more than yeah "nothing I can do"
Because right now (and I hate to say this) It feels like some people here want to be completly immortal without asking for this.
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There are two situations. The first is when the killer stays near the hook and tries to hit the unhooked survivor right away. The second is when they wait out the endurance or swing halfway through it. Either way, your job is to take the chase and keep them busy, hoping they eventually give up. The problem is most survivors can't last long because the pallets are already gone, or they make a mistake in a loop. When I'm the one being targeted, I focus on pathing and taking the killer away from nearby gens. Beyond that there isn't much you can do, even if you bring Decisive Strike.
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I had one time where a nemisis facecamped and tunneled me off just for playing as rebecca. But i used every second correctly, pulled myself off at the last second of each stage, looped for several gens each time, everyone else got out unscathed. I felt it was more of a win. But thats like the most ideal situation you could ever have being tunneled - killer lets you unhook urself, teammates take advantage of his focus on you to crank out gens, your against a killer you know how to loop well etc. Most experience the exact opposite. Killer waiting out of anticamp range, people pulling you off the hook early, then following you around failing to get flashlight saves and reducing generator effeciency. And some dont feel confident in looping someone that focused on them so they give up since they know they arent getting any points out of the deal etc.
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some killers can just eat the endurance right away. 60 seconds endurance can’t save you from springtrap, huntress, ghoul, blight, nurse and some others. The only thing that could prevent them from tunneling you is no collision not endurance.
you could also of got hooked in a deadzone where there is no pallets or windows within 10 seconds.0 -
So in your opinion it wouldn´t help when Survivors came healed from hook. Since the Killer can still hit you twice? (No difference between Enduring hit and from full health to injured I guess only you don´t need to mend.
Well but if you are in a dead Zone it is most likely not the first chase in the game. Except you dropped all pallets in this dead zone and still ran into it again.
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if a killer wants you out at 5 gens it doesn’t matter if you have been healed or have 60 seconds endurance you’re their focus. Increase the duration and they will just eat it to get it out of the way. I’ve been in games where 3 survivors taking hits body blocking the killer etc just doesn’t stop the killer from tunneling.
even after the pallet density update, there are still some maps that have deadzones from the start because the pallet density didn’t even fix the deadzone problem. The killer could also have perks like blood favor which can artificially create a deadzone blocking pallets and you do not have a window.1 -
I'm not a good looper, but I'm trying to get better at it. So when I notice that the killer is going for the tunnel, I just play it safe. Pre drop, try to wase a lot of time, and try to get downed in a pallet or a corner of the map, to make the killer get into a lose-lose situation.
Most of the time when I play killer I'll tunnel if I see that I'm losing a match and need someone out ASAP or if the unhooker chikens out and the only palyer I see is the unhooked one (though luck buddy but I need to chase at least one person).
Btw, on that topic. As killer I usually do not go back for hooks since the best way to spend the time after hooking someone is going right for gen patroll, so you'll make 3 people no work on gens (most of the time). So if you're a survivor that thinks that unhooking is a great plan when the killer is nearby, just stop it. There is not a single reason that a killer would just ignore someone unhooking under his nose. It's either a free down or a chase right out of the bat.
Oh and btw again, if you're unhooked and just try to bodyblock, don't get all upty when a killer downs and leave you slugged. They'll just assume that you have DS and is trying to make them eat it.
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Basically if you're being tunneled just pre drop most pallets. Since your team "should" be getting free and uninterrupted gen time they should be going very fast so there's no need to conserve pallets. If you happen to be running them, anti tunnel perks help a lot here as well. Taking him near the others on gens makes it easy for them to soak a hit to give you distance since they can just go right back on the gen injured since he's gonna ignore them anyway.
If it's your teammate getting tunneled rescue them right before next hook stage. This maximizes gen time. Groups almost never do this. If you can tell they're trying to get someone out do not rescue them early. Use that time for gens. Depending on how good your teammate is the better option can be to take a hit blocking for them. However, I generally find that time is spent better just pumping gens as fast as possible, unless they just happen to be conveniently near me already on the gen.
You can punish tunneling quite significantly and make him throw the whole game for it. Even without any anti tunnel perks. The reason this usually goes bad is because either the guy being tunneled is bad at looping, the team is rescuing him early instead of maximizing hook time, or they're not taking advantage of the free time on gens and being efficient. All 3 of which are skill issues. It feels bad if that's your teammates fault and not yours, but that's why it's supposed to be a team game, not a 1v1. That's just the rough part of assym games. You will lose matches when you did nothing wrong, that's just how they go. This happens as killer too.
Hopefully with MMR changes coming you will get mmr scoring based on your contributions. IE even if you die or your team loses because they were bad but you played really well, you'll still be rewarded MMR. not just a "loss".
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Just try to waste as much time as possible for the team, try to fake loops with the intention that I’m aiming to run to one of the safer structures like shack or main building using the speed boost from getting hit if needed. Or to the furthest corner away from gens/team as possible, so sometimes killers will just drop chase.
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What do you do when you get tunneld?
die and close the game
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So what should BHVR do that you don´t feel that way?
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Give me the re5 jill skin or a clarie Redfield skin and I wouldn’t care about getting tunneled. So bottom line, give my mains some skins (and some actual good ones)
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I am afraid that this isn´t the answer I was looking for
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