Adjusted Tiles Post 9.3.0

can’t wait for the “pallet density changes to the updated changes” in 9.4.0 lol

This is a disaster. Tiny unsafe loops that any killer can outplay. No mindgames anymore.
I think this is the DEATH of the survivor role.

• I was sure it would end up like this. Some loops are really ridiculous... but despite everything, I didn't see a single Trapper or Ghostface in my entire play session (killers who in theory should now be encouraged to be played).... always the same 5 Top Killers (Blight, Kaneki, Oni, etc etc) + Skull merchant.

I know doomposting happens when changes come but I genuinely think so many Survivors are gonna quit after this patch

I've mainly been on the Gas Heaven map showcase since the update dropped today and thought it was just the map or it was just the rng of the tiles I've gotten. So far the tiles I've experienced today have been pretty crap for survivor. They're basically all the last thing you loop in order to get just a few more seconds out of a chase, only now that's all there is.

If they've done something to all maps then that's a bit concerning if they still plan on taking a de-palletification pass on next patch. It's basically a way to sneak reducing pallets to even worse than before they touched them in the first place.

On the plus side, the worse they make the survivor experience the longer killer queues will get. The longer those get, the more likely they'll be to implement a play while you wait feature to 1v4. If they do that, maybe killer players will experience just how miserable they're making the game for their counterparts.

Still too survivor sided… they should remove the rock too!

I‘m glad I found better games to enjoy

4 maps queue on Yamaoka and Macmillan it's a barren wasteland

I played a bunch of Mikey games today to get a feel for his strike attack with the sensitivity modifier removed (it feels very good btw). Yeah its pretty grim out there for survivors. Majority of the tiles are very unsafe and easily mind gamed.

Throw in killers with anti loop/chase powers and survivors are going to get stomped. When your team mates are having short chases out there guys, go easy on them. Odds are they just got awful loop rng.

Like you said during the PTB, and yet we still somehow ended up with this result? I'm not blaming you personally, I'm just honestly baffled at how badly the devs handled it.

I guess it's the devs that keeps misinterpreting the community feedback you bring them. The overwhelming majority of players who gave feedback were saying the changes should mostly be reverted, not massively nerfed.

Yeah, I played as Wraith against good survivors just now and won with half brain turned off. They couldn't do nothing, the tiles and fillers are too weak and you can mindgame them with eyes closed.

SHOCKING update and direction the game is heading.

Good luck survivors, this is gonna be tough.

I hope they keep theses changes. Makes it easier for me to just stay playing marvel rivals where my mains actually get some outfits unlike in dbd….

For @Balrog
Preliminary testing shows that yes, some maps are indeed reduced. Not as gloomy as my first comment on the matter, but some key maps that absolutely needs a re-visit.

Crotus Prenn Asylum

• Filler tiles (burnt out remnants) outside of main building are horribly unsafe
• Main building seems a lot less safe, and the pallet count should be 2 inside (one per floor) instead of just one single pallet for the entire structure.
• Density seems fine, at least in the map seed I got.

Main building pallet spawn

Bad and unsafe short-walled tile

Yamaoka Estate - Family Residence

• Had an OK seed, with decent spacing around the middle, and lower part near shack. No deadzones to speak of
• However, it is very inconsistent, when comparing it to the other screenshot, where the middle part was essentialy free of pallets.
• Sanctum of Wrath is less affected by the changes, and spawned pallets with adequate spacing.

Workable tile placements

Other side of middle.

Ormond - Mt. Ormond Resort:

• The shack side of main building had decent tile spread, and an okay amount of pallets. It also had mindgame'able loops between rocks and trees.
• The opposite side, where the little hut spawns was another story. Wide open, no cover, and a few pallets on the edgemap.

Shack side, with a fine spread of pallets.

The front yard on the other hand has big gaps in between tiles.

Another part of the front yard, where there are big gaps between tiles

I tested some others as well, but in all my custom matches, it seemed like the pallet density was decent enough.
However, it is very inconsistent on certain maps, like on Azarov's Resting Place, where deadzones may occur, especially on the side of main building, where the bus loop spawns.
Crotus Prenn needs a better middleground between pre-9.3.0 and post 9.3.0.
As a side note, the changes to Myers really made his dash a tad on the stronger side, since freeing up the camera makes dodging it near impossible, especially against PC players.

I like how this is the 2nd straight year something bad has happened right before the winter event lol, last year it was Thrill of the Hunt needing an emergency nerf

I don't think the developers care about this feedback. But if Otz, Hens, and their crew release a video complaining that the changes don't favor the killers, then they'll care about that feedback and make the necessary changes to please their sacred cows.

any faith i had left is gone. Play your own damn game, do some real quality assurance.

I think I was the only person when I heard a dev say they play survivor, I knew they were lying.

I have never seen a more biased dev team, essentially sabotaging one half of their player base.

That's BHVR for ya!

One day, they throw in 20 new pallets, yeeting years of balance out of the window.

The very next month, they sledgehammer it and oops, now every loop is a trash pallet.

I would like to say I'm surprised... but I'm not.