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Dead by Blights.

azaxydbd
azaxydbd Member Posts: 64
edited January 3 in General Discussions

Nearly every game i had today was against a blight, everyone using nearly the same builds and they all tryharding, my teammates getting down like flies and killer humps them, really fun experience, is no longer matter of get good, is matter of u bring the best SWF's or suffer, is not a game mode, is a suffering experience, Blight is the killer that deserve the biggest nerf ever, more than ghoul or any other strong killer.

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  • 100PercentBPMain
    100PercentBPMain Member Posts: 2,826

    I'll give you the best night of your life if you don't mind a lil Rancor Noed slipping in there shame to see matches are still like this

  • Ragna_Rock
    Ragna_Rock Member Posts: 215

    Okay then bring your strong swf against a low tier killer and surprise you get more blights.

    Blight is the best killer in the game that is why people use him likewise when people run perks like sprint burst, lithe, dead hard, vigil, windows just hard META surv perks and a low tier killer goes against that they probably go "hmm this is not fun" yet we are at a point that in order to beat a good META swf you need to play a strong killer like blight also running the META.

    So if you want killers with a power level comprable to blight getting tuned down you would have to accept a reduction of power on the other side a perks like Sprint Burst dont have a justification for being as strong as they are without S tiers being around.

    As for bm there is nothing that can be done about that, overly toxic comp player will always exist from bming blights to tea-bagging aces is just the nature of a PVP game.

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,120

    Every other killer gets bullied by endless flashlights and pallets, and Nurse is currently insufferable because of bugs. It's the survival of the fittest, all other killers went extinct and the Blight population is the only one that can adapt to the highly acidic SWF ridden environment.

  • Roco45
    Roco45 Member Posts: 345

    It's what happens when BHVR is inept from real game balance and the community supports it. The game is geared towards SWF's and S-Tier Killers, nothing else is really viable if you want to have fun matches that aren't filled with the most toxic slop imaginable. I don't blame the people who play the S-Tier because otherwise they'll just get held hostage in toxic matches and those Blights that make it their personal goal to slug out a 4k at 5 gens have clearly been put through hell to get to that point against SWF's; I don't blame the SWF because SoloQ play is completely non viable, especially with the backtracking of any actual "health patches" and the removal of going next.

    It's what happens when a game has a selfish community that wants everything nerfed besides whatever they like to personally abuse combined with Devs who can't balance a thing. Yes, Blight should be nerfed, but then that's one less Killer that can compete with SWF's. So really, SWF's need to be rebalanced while the top Killers get rebalanced and then SoloQ and M1 Killers need to be rebalanced, maps also need a hell of a rebalance and to be split into rng categories based off Killer.

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,120

    Truer words have never been said (in this thread at least). Once again, the core problem is the SWF omnipotence. SWFs annihilate every killer and make them suffer through endless stuns, saves, tanks and revives, those killers switch to S-tier and let their steam off on unfortunate soloQ in the next game, and those then quit playing soloQ and join either killers or SWFs, and the cycle repeats. The only ones who have it easy here are the SWFs, and the devs will never dare to nerf SWF since they are the majority of the playerbase and the loudest voice on every medium (they are also the majority on this forum, so every anti-SWF opinion is downvoted in an instant).

    So yeah, this game will be in eternal battle between toxic SWFs and karmic Blights, with M1 killers and soloQ players being the collateral damage.

  • Spirit_IsTheBest
    Spirit_IsTheBest Member Posts: 1,122

    I don't mind Blight depending on the build, plus crouch tech still exists and makes versing him a lot more bearable to be fair, a thing I notice is how a ton of Blights play the exact same, so it's kind of easy to predict what they are going to do, that's how I ended up getting better at versing them, you just got to prepare your next move carefully.

    I'd rather verse Blight 1,000 times than verse Ghoul at all, sure, a good blight is very annoying, but at least you got to put SOME effort into playing Blight, Ghoul = free kills with little effort required.

  • FerrousFacade
    FerrousFacade Member Posts: 124

    Blight over ghoul any day, even a sweaty one. There is no way to make a hit that free feel good. It makes Plague blush and Legion weep.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    What do you expect he is strong and in comp he prooved he is better than nurse in long game (nurse has only advantage at the beginning of the match when all pallets are up so blight is still effected by them but nurse isnt but in terms of mobility blight gets upper hand when game progressed and many pallets are gone and distance between gens gets smaller because survivors do them mostly from edges to center which isnt ideal but happens),on top blight is fun to play as and to manys surprice a lot off survivors like to face him to compare to ghoul or skullmerchant so he is only ond of good pocks for sweats and naturaly brings lot of players do to his skill ceiling that rewards very well your time and effort you invest into him compare to killers like merchant of trapper.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    Depends on the blight because even good ghouls cant down you super fast on some loops and have to loop as m1 killer but good blight, very good one can down you 3x faster than good ghoul just look (you like comp if I remember) at hens (its before ghouls second nerf I think) video on ghoul vs other killers where he plays I belive knightlight vs obis and that games with blight were way faster than ghouls where even with free hit and strong vault he still couldnt match blights leathality if blight player hits most of his rushes.

    In general most of ghoul players arent that good (they lack or dont even know his techs and have no idea of his high skill ceiling and if you dont believe just look it up he has solid bodyblock cutt off with his power that I bet is harder than blight or nurse due to fast reaction anc precision plus autoaim srewing you up). So many ghouls arent that good at outplaying loops compare to blight players in general and they only benefit with his easy pick up compare to blight.

    Ghoul is stil very strong killer but his power wasnt never beyoned top blights even when he had all those busted things after release not to mention prime blight that is the version momoseventh made that ove 2000 winstreak was arguably strongest killer in the game we ever had and for long time.

  • ImWinston
    ImWinston Member Posts: 658
    • Yes, Blight is a bit overused and a bit too strong. We all know it, those of us on the forum, main killers, main survivors, devs... everyone. There must be a reason why they don't want to nerf him. I imagine that (unlike Nurse) he attracts many new players, willing to learn his mechanics. On YouTube you'll find tons of videos specifically about this killer, including win streaks, tutorials, specific techs, videos with advice from survivors on how to counter him... all killers have this kind of video, but Blight is really on another level.
  • FerrousFacade
    FerrousFacade Member Posts: 124

    I agree blight is stronger and I am way more likely to beat the ghoul than the blight. The first hit ghoul gets on you just feels so bad to play against I would rather a blight.

  • Amanova
    Amanova Member Posts: 448

    Each week there is should be an an option to ban certain killers (max 5), for example 1 week without a Blight and next week you have to pick some other killers and on next week you can choose Blight again, many survivors will enjoy it and those who wants to play against Blight can get more rewards and full man swfs should not have such option, give that option to solo/duos/trios

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    Personaly Im more prefer ghouls (his hinder when he vaults behind you is kinda only part I hate the most) because they mostly just dont know his high skill techs like cutting off with leaps on loop and bodyblocking, mostly its due to ending in chase longer because after that free hit he has only mobility which can be stoped and destroyes prerunning into unsafe space between loops and then vault which os buged since they fixed kidnap tech and gives you 50% hinder when he is vaulting which he doesnt need bevause that vault is still fast but lastong against ghoul is on average longer for me and easier than against nlight that can get hits easier through the chase and force through pallets witjout any downside way easier than ghoul.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    Blight is DBD “golden child” and it seems he has huge support in form of devs, survivors and killer players and his cultnof mains and enjoyers is very wide so thats why he wasnt nerfed like other killers and his busted sddons lasted in game for so long with his hug tech ( without hug tech he is still s-tier and now by comp claimed to be best killer in the game after all these netfs just shows blight is on different meter, ghoul got nerfed faster than anyone thinks, chucky got beaten to bloody mess with nerf hammer, krasue dame as ghoul and blight still rules till today just shows the all killers are treated differently).

    Im not for overnerfing blight because in my opinion he should be strong klller due to his uniqueness and skill requirement, he is fun to play as but at the state he is now its pretty funny some people see ghoul as the heart of all problems but sweat nlights will always outpreform ghouls and in comp the time blight takes win in is like 2x or 3x shorter than ghouls.

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 403

    Blight needs nerfs make him 4.4ms and lose 3 tokens when breaking a pallet

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,120

    The main difference between Ghoul and Blight is that it takes mastery to perform well as Blight, otherwise you are just an M1 killer who can't hit anyone with his power and is forced to eat every pallet, while Ghoul is literally "press X to win", even someone who just started playing DbD can easily 4k with Ghoul while eating with one hand and watching some Netflix on the second screen. The community is generally more tolerant to strong killers who actually require skill to perform well.

  • Leon_van_Straken
    Leon_van_Straken Member Posts: 530

    My theory is still that if they try to nerf blight and change something in his code the whole killer breaks.

    Would explain a lot.

  • azaxydbd
    azaxydbd Member Posts: 64

    it dont require much skill to play blight, to master him yea it take skill, but to be decent blight player it takes no skill, and a decent blight is already too strong for pub matches.

  • PetTheDoggo
    PetTheDoggo Member Posts: 2,011

    That sounds as overnerf to me. Kinda doesn't make sense to make him walk slower and force him to walk more at the same time.

    I think losing tokens on pallet breaking might work, but probably like 2 tokens. Rather than forcing him to be 4.4, I think it would be better to rework one of his movement speed addons.
    Blight without speed addons is not really that big of deal imo. The difference there is massive.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,661

    This would just prolong queuetimes, because you have to remember that up to 4 different Killers can be banned in a game. And well, if you leave the option for SWF (aside from 4 man SWF), there would still be up to 3 guaranteed Killers a SWF will NEVER encounter. Does not really sound too good.

    @Topic:

    Yeah, Blight can get some Nerfs. IMO it is a nobrainer to let him lose his Tokens after breaking a Pallet, because currently Pallets do not really do much against him.

    Hens also mad this point here:

    There he proposes that Blight should lose Tokens when breaking a Pallet, should become 4,4 instead of 4,6 to encourage to go for lethal rushes instead of just playing M1-Killer if the Tile is too difficult for the player (which would also only really hurt bad Blight-players). And as a compensation, the Speed Add Ons should be partially made Basekit so that going for Rushes is more encouraged.

    And I think those 3 points make sense and Blight is really overdue for some Nerf. It is almost as bad as Nurse now that you put Blight as the second strongest Killer on basically every Tier List, which means that he is just a bit overtuned.

  • Junylar
    Junylar Member Posts: 2,120

    With the new map design, there are 150 trash pallets all over the place which are just impossible to rush around. So making Blight 4.4 would completely destroy him on these maps, just like removing Nurse's aura reading ability would make her unplayable on indoor maps. I like how people who propose these changes have never touched the respective killers themselves. If you don't like some addons - just nerf the addons, stop messing with basekits which work just fine without addons.

  • Munky
    Munky Member Posts: 281

    It is mostly "dead by imbalance"… Ask BHVR to bring bottom tier killers closer to top tier killers for proper balance… maybe you'll get more variation then.

  • Aven_Fallen
    Aven_Fallen Member Posts: 17,661
    edited January 5

    Yeah, I think Hens has never played Blight. He is actually very bad at the game as well. /s

    It is honestly pretty unrealistic to not talk about Nerfs to Nurse or Blight. They are both overtuned.

  • BongoBoys
    BongoBoys Member Posts: 403
    edited January 5

    Blight is a high mobility Killer he should be 4.4ms cause he already has a powerful mobility power with 5 rushes to help him catch-up and secure a down.

    Even with these nerfs he likely wouldn't lose his place as an S-Tier killer he'd just be more fair to go against.

  • Shaddoll_Serpent
    Shaddoll_Serpent Member Posts: 255

    His power cooldown should be longer, say always 10s regardless of how many tokens he uses. It's often way too short at a mere 4-6 seconds which gives you almost no opportunity to make another tile.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    I dont think he takes that much like sure he is bit tricky at first but once you understand how to pinball with your dashes and how your hitboxes work (huge hitbox on contact at start that gets smaller) then even people that can mess up with blights cant even doge you because you will understand the matrix behind shoulder flick and you will just run into them and hit them (even when they are slightly behind you), blight even with few dashes can cut distance significantly and unlike chucky he doesnt need to charge his dash or anything just press m2 for huge speed and bump and do it again but this time you can injure people thats why he is so oppressing he has very strong power to counter and his cooldown for it is just 10 seconds (for 5 rushes) plus some cooldown after hitting or missing with it and he is 115 speed.

    There is proven that blight can win more faster than ghoul (by comp players which are the best), ghoul is better on average due to him needing less skill to preform well with his power but once you get blight than you are just way stronger than ghoul and tbh people in DBD are kinda strage they hate killers that are weak but are just annoying like legion,skullmerchant more than pinicles of broken top things like blight or nurse, people even hate dracula more than blight but he requires some solid skill for hitting his dash and hellfire to because its easy to doge especialy in open compare to blight. So being strong and easy doesnt mean he is stronger than solid blight he is just mechanicaly easier than blight but unlike blight we know from devs ghoul will get some nerfs in future unlike blight.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 2,340

    Pretty much he would still be s-tier even with 110 speed instead of rugular m1 115 speed.

    We can look at spirit, she got more nerfs and still holds strong place in terms of power and blight well he is even more powerfull than spirit (personaly i believe even strongest version of spirit wouldnt still be more powerfull than blight they would be probably on same level at best), so him being 110 wouldnt hinder him that much like with just 3 dashes he can outpreform chucky and he has them under 10 seconds back (6 seconds for 3 dashes is cooldown and some few seconds after missing or hitting when he is leaving his dashes).