Why is nobody playing The Krasue?
I love playing against this killer but I haven't seen her for more than a month now. What happened?
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her body gore just clashes with my buzz; at least Cenobites pins seem therapeutic if you see pain as pleasurable.
I like my neck being in 1 piece.
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She is the new meaning of tentacle h-
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I have been playing her all day for the last few days. Starting to get really comfortable playing her. Ive also noticed the "hate" has died down as out of 20 rounds ive had maybe 1 person give up/ dc. So people do seem to want to see her again.
I think they stopped playing her due to the nerfs she got which had all the streamers saying she was godlike s tier nearly unloopable etc. Cant hit over pallets now so pallets work against her, cant infect multiple people for a long period of time since mushrooms have increased on number passively, i even played an entire round not switching to head form and i could still only keep 1 person infected at a time.
So now her playstyle focuses on keeping the one person shes chasing infected to bring them down quickly in headform. Very rarely do i get people coming to "protect" the infected player on which you can just keep hitting them till they get infected too or switch/spit/switch lol
But id say shes rare because of the nerfs, and from when people did try her everyone would give up/dc on sight of a mushroom. Not the case anymore.
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I did not play her bc she was too strong. Now shes ok. But why should i choose her. She dominates bad survivors, but if you play against bodyblocks it hurts a lot. So you will win, win, win and then lose badly.
So i prefer a killer which has fun gameplay (interesting power to learn or with a unique gameplan). And someone who wants to win no matter what takes an S-tier-killer.
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She is really boring to play. The reasons she was so popular on release was because she was new and she was busted. Now that she is not busted anymore (she is still a good Killer), people dont really play her, because she just isnt very interesting or fun to play.
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Pretty similar to Twins.
Even after the nerfs she’s still decent, but the play pattern isn’t very rewarding long term.
Lots of micro and an awkward chase flow with few “pop off” moments, so many killers shelf her once the novelty fades. Strength doesn’t equal popularity.6 -
I see her in public matches frequently actually.
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I gave her a chance for a bit. All I learned is that she is an inferior hillbilly with extra steps.
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I was very interested in playing her on PTB, i liked the idea of manipulating the mushroom economy to make survivors stay broken and vulnerable kinda like plague. She got buffed quite a bit for a live and became too overpowered. In the following hotfixes she got various nerfs and one of them completely killed any interactivity she had for me - leech is lost on being hooked.
It honestly doesn't feel like i am playing a game when i play as Krasue anymore. Infecting a survivor takes no skill and from there it's just a case of brute forcing loops with the head form. Survivors have counterplay and if they try to do it you have to always respond in the same way. She has a lot of fixed delays in her power, its really boring. A huge failure in design imo and continues the streak of unenjoyable original killers.2 -
I play her. I just unlocked her “You’ve Got Guts” achievement the other day.
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She's just boring to play as an infection is useless outside of chase since it's so easy to cleanse
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boring killer honestly bad reputation too
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How would you keep the retaining infection on hook without massively incentivizing tunneling?
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Boring to play, easy to play, you master her in five matches, and she doesn’t have the satisfaction to continuing to play.
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Boring af is why.
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She's awful now. If its a 99.9% chance I lose a game id rather it be with a fun killer I could meme with.
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Hm, i don't really know. I think her design is deeply flawed, but i was enjoying her anyways until that point. To be clear i do think it was a problem but i just feel like bhvr have left us with a killer that just isn't interesting
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Well from the survivor perspective she wasn't interesting either. Her head form lunge has a horrible animation that doesn't match its hitbox at all. It always looks like you're getting hit from way farther than you should. It also has little to no indication that she's using it so you just die.
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For me it's her wonky movement, weird head form lunge and sounds that are not pleasent at all.
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I love her visual design and lore, but since her nerfs she feels so clunky to play its no longer fun. The wind up of her power is easy to dodge, she gets caught on any bit of random geometry like she was Bubba circa 2020, and she is hard-countered by the second most obnoxious and boring survivor strat behind shift-W, body blocking.
When a killer is required to run Forced Penance and Dissolution to just barely scrape by, and has a power that just feels unfun to play, she's naturally going to get shelved. I wish that weren't the case because there's an awesome killer hiding in there somewhere, but at this point I think she's going to need a Knight or Freddy level rework to make her both fun to play and not oppressive to play against, the way she was when she released.2 -
once her overtuned phase like with every kille is gone and the hype.
most killers just go back to playing blight/kaneki. even if the nerfs were warranted.-3 -
Eh perks, kind of generic power, also kind of clunky.
Unless you really like the character, there is no good reason to play her.
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Sorry, but if you have a 99,9% chance to lose with Krasue, then you are doing something completely wrong.
This is something I also have a problem with. Her mushroom mechanic became redundant, because you get automatically cleansed after being hooked and the only time you need to use a mushroom would be if she infects you and leaves you or if she uses the Chicken Head Add On. But usually Krasue does not play hit and run, because downing a Survivor who is infected is not really hard so there is not really a point of leaving them.
But on the other hand, she needed that change, because her tunneling potential was just too good. (And it honestly did not make sense that her infection was kept like it was on release, considering that they changed that for Wesker because of tunneling. And Krasues infection takes 3 business days to cleanse)
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Maybe instead of being cleansed the infection should just transfer to the unhooker that way the unhooked can't be tunneled and her infection spreading isn't non-existent.
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Yeah, this could be an option. Would make her infection more meaningful and add a need to cleanse it for a Survivor, while not increasing her tunneling potential again.
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I started playing her yesterday for the first time she's pretty fun. I buy every killer on day one but if a killer is very strong I know the nerfs are coming and it's a mistake getting used to a very strong killer and then be hit with the nerfs. Better to wait until the killer is balanced. I think this is the reason people stopped playing her they got used to a super good killer and then could not handle the nerfs.
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as a guy who was maining her for a bit her infection gets removed so often and she feels so clunky no one wants to play her
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Cause her gameplay is basically just:
Infect → headform→ down → hook
Her infection mechanic is pointless tbh, since you'll never really see a survivor reach leach 2.
If you want a more detailed opinion here's a video by Pixel bush:
Start at either 4:41 or 8:44 - 20:13
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when i first started playing i had no idea there was a level 2 leeched
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Because a bunch of streamers hopped onto the "She's more OP than nurse" bandwagon even though she wasn't (like really? More OP than nurse, come on now) and they nerfed her a few times so now she's below average and gets massively countered by a good SWF that knows how to body block with the person who isn't infected, and then she literally just does nothing.
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She lost her ability to pressure survivors.
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below average….sure
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I mean, what is her power really? She can catch up to you a little bit faster after hitting you? And has a few number bumps to some basic things? And then loses the ability to break pallets (vaulting pallets sure aint worth it anymore unless its a god pallet, and even then its probably better to just break it and move on)
Couple that with the fact that body blocking her is EXTREMELY powerful. Someone who isn't infected just comes and body blocks and she can do nothing other than switch out of her head form, infect the new person, then switch back, and by the time she does that the other person is long gone.
Have you done the math on her abilities at all? Like lets look at a basic 4.6 killer like say, trapper, right?
When a survivor gets hit, they gain 14.4 meters of distance on the killer for math purpsoes
Against a trapper:
- 4.6 m/s movement speed
- Has to be within 3.61 meters of a survivor to hit them (while they are running away) with a lunge
- After hitting a survivor, takes 15.5 seconds to catch up to the survivor and land another hit
What does krasue in head form get?
- 4.8 m/s movement speed
- 14.4 m/s max lunge speed (same distance though) which changes the max distance from 3.61 meters to 5.6 meters
- After hitting a survivor using headlong flight it takes 7.35 seconds to catch up to the survivor and land another hit
So, she gets .2 m/s faster, has her lunge distance to land a hit increased by 2 meters, and can end a chase running in a straight line 8 seconds faster than a powerless killer.
What does she trade for that?
- Has to infect you first.
- Spend 1.2 seconds turning into a head
- Gets stunned longer in head form
- Can't fully control her lunge (limited to a 45 degree angle)
- Can't break pallets can vault over them, but its so slow now its almost useless at the majority of pallets.
- Massively weak to body blocks from uninfected survivors (requiring you to spend 2.2 seconds switching back to body, infecting them, then spending another 1.2 seconds switching back to head)
Do i really think that is worth it vs say like? The new myers? Or Pinhead? No
Do i think she was ever as OP as (i can literally end a chase in 8 seconds) Nurse? Hell no.
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She had a lot of players because she was very strong. Easier than Nurse with a slightly weaker power that required nearly zero skill to use effectively. The power also rewarded camping and tunneling off hook.
Now that she's weaker, people have realized she was never fun. They just liked the power fantasy.
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She is still strong, but playing her feels clunky and restrictive, so not very fun.
Like, come on, usually every killer can use their power whenever they want as long as it is available, sometimes having to work to make it available like Oni. Killers with two "forms" or modes usually can change between them freely. Twins can change between Charlotte and Viktor whenever they want unless Viktor was just kicked. Dracula has a short cooldown and beside that can shapeshift freely, old Doctor could change freely between Treatment and Punishment mode. The Lich doesn't have two forms, but has four different abilities he can change between whenever he wants.
The Krasue, on the other hand, spawns a mushroom when she transforms. So she provides the survivors with a counter to her power everytime she uses it. And if no survivor is infected, it will be pretty pointless. So she has her power available at all times, but she is pressured to use it as less often as possible to avoid countering herself, and she always must stay some time in her human form before releasing her power.
And what's her power on her human form? Solely marking survivors so she can use her actual power. In other words, she is just a normal M1 killer untill she has marked enough survivors, or at least the survivor she wants to chase (and those who could body-block for them) are marked.
And when she finally releases her head… yeah, it's strong, yeah, it has a lot of mobility, but it's clunky as hell. Controlling when not dashing forward feels weird, and the attack, as big of an area as it has, is so slow and has such a limited turn rate that I'd rather just play a killer normal basic attacks. At least a normal lunge is fast and you can turn around corners and freely control your movement while performing it, unlike the Krasue's special attack.
That doesn't stop her from being strong or from easily winning most matches once you get the hang of her, but there is no satisfaction on playing as a killer whose power has a restrictive frequency of use and then a restricted control over its own movement when it's finally used.
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she's part of my main rotation. i just like how casual she is to play. no big brain thinking lol. cool design, animations etc. the 1 issue is she feels a bit clunky at times.
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She can be strong yeah but she's not really the most engaging to play. Plus, people were playing her for how strong she released out of PTB. She was just Wesker on steroids in terms of tunnel ability.
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She feels clunky to play. I played her after the pallet update and yeah wasn't good. She also misses her hits more now which doesn't help her clunkyness.
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0 skill ceiling, super easy power, 0 effort from the player.
I guess players choosing an more interactive and interesting killer to play.
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That guy really, really struggles as Killer, but still thinks he is on the highest MMR. So either he is not (to a bad player even an average player can seem good) or he is on a special Server with only good players, where not even content creators who play the game for a living are on. You can decide which is more true.
Release Krasue was busted. Obviously not better than Nurse, but anyone who claims she was not busted on release is lying or really does not understand what a strong Killer is.
And yes, I agree, she is not below average. Even nowadays Krasue is an A-Tier Killer. Just super boring to play and even if you want to look for a strong Killer, there are Killers who are better than her AND more fun to play.
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