Why Making the Blight 4.4m/s is a Bad Idea

Someone with actual logical thinking that agrees 4.4m/s is a garbage idea thank you!!! The people crying for his nerfs really have no clue… Anyway here's my feedback.

Rush count and token recharge are alright i dont mind it overall.

Add on pass and basekit blighted crows are great, being shoehorned into effectively only one addon choice sucks. Id definitely trade the rush token for the improved basekit.

Im okay with the pallet stun change, seems fair and i'd rather encourage looping and stunning than boring pre-drop slop.

I disagree with the pallet break change though, it feels garbage on ghoul and it'll feel garbage on blight too. It gives an incentive to pre-drop for even more free value than it gets now too which i dont like. If this had to exist, and i dont think it should, it should be tied to a stun instead atleast. That way it feels like they actually earned the distance given and encourages proper and more exciting gameplay more.

4.4 will do nothing. Everyone that complains about Blight today will complain tomorrow. Think about it, how often does a good Blight not hit you with his M2?

I remember when people wanted Billy to be 4.4, still do probably. Same energy.

Honestly I'm kinda split on the idea of a 4.4 m/s Blight, as I think it'd be interesting to see, but every time I see the suggestion it's almost always followed by something like "also, make Blight's power go on cooldown when he breaks a pallet". Like alright, we're just trying to nuke the killer from orbit at that point.

No I just think the idea of making a killer more dependent on their power for downs and then subsequently making it so that killer has their power up less often (and in an arbitrary way…losing your power because you broke a pallet feels bad even on Ghoul even if it's technically more balanced) in the same breadth is an idea born out of pure bias and/or spite rather than rationality.

Nuked from orbit in terms of how it feels to play the killer yes. Balance? Probably not. Balance should be secondary to game feel. I think that's the point people just don't understand.

And to further the point I simply don't trust the philosophy of someone on the forum who suggests going 4.4 m/s with a power cooldown on pallet break as the primary avenue of nerfing the killer. It's just the lamest and least interesting way of going about it.

what would you suggest as changes instead? you've only denied pallet break giving a cooldown and claimed to be on the fence about 4.4 movement speed without providing anything is more interesting or not "lame" and I'm curious to know your approach

Actually if you want an answer that's simple to do and not something that requires extensive number tweaking and/or reworking, and thus playtesting? Remove the pallet break on rush attacks. It's not even something that was there during the PTB (and maybe even launch patch, don't remember at this point, I was more concerned about how horrible the rush turn rate was on controller at the time), it was something added later.

Removing that would make playing downed pallets with the power more risky, as if the Blight narrowly miss someone that vaults, now their power is on cooldown and they have the choice to either manually break the pallet or attempt to keep playing it instead of being rewarded with a resource and forcing a survivor to run to another tile for free. That would have a decent impact on Blights' micro and macro potential, especially less skilled Blights.

Honestly, I do like this proposed set of changes more than just making Blight 110%, though I've long been an advocate of that idea.

These changes feel more pointed to make his play style work in trial rather than just keeping it busted and getting rid of his ability to fall back on M1 at certain loops. I particularly like breaking a pallet taking two tokens, as it's a change I thought of while playing him and idk how to describe it, but it just feels like it should happen when playing against him.

Also, where is the Foxy skin BHVR? Its been like 8 months since the FNAF chapter with radio silence from the devs on it, starting to feel like how they treated the tome characters back in the day.

I'd personally bring back his hug tech and remove breaking the pallet on power/put it on cooldown.

Buff and a nerf, so can't 'get nuked from orbit' or whatever that crap is.

4.4 won't do much, but it will do some. If it matters so little, why not do it then? Seems it would make more people happy than not, for such a small, tiny incy change.

Thats how the forums have worked for years, both sides.

So, what you are saying, after removing "tech" that would allow a hit, in some loops where using Blights power is detrimental he should be forced to loop like a Huntress or give up on the chase? I find it funny how the movement speed for projectile killers is being used to punish other killers. Once you agree Blight should be 4.4, there's a whole slew of dash type killers that become targets for it.

I do not see how making Blight 4.4m/s helps a single survivor against a Blight that knows how to play Blight. This is only for new Blight players that play like Trapper. Realize you are complaining about the equivalent of Trapper. This is a change without a purpose and being done out of pure spite of the killer.

I wouldn't mind if they reduced his token count to 3 instead of 5, with the same 12 second cooldown, made him 4.4 and made him lose a token when breaking a pallet… so long as they gave him back hug tech, gave him blighted crow basedkit and then reworked the speed increase addons.

look at it this way. A Blight who can play wouldn't be hurt as much by being 4.4m/s. So what is the point in doing so?

So you believe it would have zero effect on things. Honestly, you're probably right. 4.4 isn't a HUGE metric difference, but its still 'something.'

And this is my point: If this change would effectively have zero impact killer side… then just let it go ahead? It seems it would appease a lot of survivors, and not have any impact on killers. Win/win, yeah? Any issues with this line of thinking?

Well, one comment was, so they cannot fall back to using M1. In other words, they expect the Blight to always use their power. This is the same as criticizing a Billy who doesn't down you with his chainsaw. Someone who plays Billy should know, not every loop can be curved and if you don't use M1 it's a big waste of time. Same for Blight on maps full of poor collisions or no collisions.

That's one comment. It's not something everyone shares, and it is not the end all/be all. If a survivor 'expects' these things from blight, then life will show them what reality is. They'll get over it. That said, this is still not a good reason to dismiss this change that 'wouldn't affect the killer at all.'

Who 4.4m/s does hurt are new or casual players of Blight. Those that don't know the ends and outs. When it comes to these players you will find them playing like a Trapper by just chasing.

Sounds like new players are what you're referring to. Being Trapper is a beginning character, and Blight is pretty advanced, I feel this thought falls flat. I dont believe it matters that a fresh player can't pick up blight and start mowing. Learn the game, learn the chase, learn the M1 game, learn 'the game'. Arguing this using a fresh player seems like a horrible choice.

So when I say this idea of making Blight 4.4 is out of spite, it's because people hate playing against him and want to make him less viable to be picked up by new players. Look at everything OP posted for alternatives. If bhvr did half of it would making Blight 4.4 seem a bit too much? I bet many here would say no, because it's not about balance.

While I feel and understand this, it is just your feelings towards it. Subjective. Not crapping on it, just making sure this is known and that's that. Making him less viable to be picked up by a new players is, again, perfectly okay imo. Blight need not be the trapper replacement for new players. I am sure we can both agree DBD is too complicated a game and overloaded with 'needed' information like perks, killer powers, ENTIRE rosters that are ballooning to ridiculous numbers…. yeah, a new player need not pick up Blight out the gate imo. And if they do, they should struggle, not skip all that learning and meaningful experience to mimic what tunneling has done for killers and inflating mmr.

Just my thoughts. I appreciate you responding as you have!