Buff lesser killers to their 2v8 state

Flopiyutiop
Flopiyutiop Member Posts: 56

Trapper, Wraith, Deathslinger, Ghostface, Executioner, Némésis, Chucky, Huntress , even Dracula and Wesker could have some or all of their 2v8 buffs implemented in 1v4 and would remain A to B tier in that state of play. That's an easy number fix for improving the fun playing these killers and increasing the diversity of experiences in the game.

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  • pidgeon
    pidgeon Member Posts: 342
    edited June 7

    Disagree w some of these but most on this list definitely could use it

    Ones I disagree with is Dracula because he's a top 5 killer Wesker is perfectly fine where he is in A tier Wraith shouldn't be buffed anymore since base kit Wraith is already pretty decent Huntress is perfectly fine as a solid B tier killer along with Wraith since they're both used to teach survivors the basics of each killer type. And I main Pyramid Head at the moment and the 2v8 buffs are for sure not needed. Other than that I think aside from Dracula, Wesker, Wraith, Executioner and Huntress are just fine where they are in the meta

    Even if it would only slightly buff them I still feel like their current states are some of the more balanced versions of said killers.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,647

    Trapper is kinda bad like he depends more on map then skill or experience and its desing flaw.

    Wraith is actualy very good killer in 2v8 and only thing that hurts him is sprinburst on command but deffinitely strongest wraith version ever, hes got si many addons into basekit.

    Ghost would need buffs like Idk why exposed is here for 30 seconds and knife sheet addon isnt there either.

    Slinger maybe some small buffs but he isnt that bad he is with chucky in like middle of killers and he is in my opinion stronger than huntress in general, huntress is kinda solid but as slinger what buthers them in 2v8 isnt power but MAPS they are the biggest they ever been and killers with no mobility will aleays suck on them no matter what especialy with current sprintburst.

    Nemi sucks.

    Phead just dont play him he is terrible he has no range and is same as in 1v4 only his power last and recharges lomger.

    Chucky is very good like he has 14 meters dash in 1v4 and here its 21 plus he can use pallets and windows to double it with scamper so he isnt lost plus good antiloop and synergy with many other killers.

    Only killers worth using to get some cages and atleast 4 kills are mobility ones, weakest are sporit and wraith after them chucky is good choicenthen huntress with slinger and then the rest which sucks and isnt worth using.

    Dracula and wesker are ok in 1v4 and deffinitely one of best killers in 2v8 they have mobility,antiloop, wesker slowdown and drac tracking like even medic with class buff wont escape wolf.

    Killers worthy using if you dont want to get crushed are dracula,wesker,oni,blight,nurse,wraith,billy,spirit basicaly all that have some mobility that can be used to catch up to survivors and antiloop which sll of theese have.

  • Chomperka
    Chomperka Member Posts: 283
    edited June 7

    Revert PH ability speed from 4.2 to 4.4 thats all he needs to be low A at the very least, i am sure BHVR dont buff PH because he is the most tunneling killer and people will complain even more if he becomes popular. Also let him vanish into some silent hill dimension where he is fast or teleport idk thats basekit for all new killers

  • Flopiyutiop
    Flopiyutiop Member Posts: 56
    edited June 7

    Dracula and Wesker are outlier for sure as they can break uncoordinated team and give a hard time to good swf but I still think Wesker vault speed and Vlad bat form could be improved, the rest of the cast should get some to every number buff we can give them, Huntress with 8-10 hatchets at base wouldn't be crazy, Chucky breaking pallets, DS reload speed, GF shroud haste (encourage coordinating in survivor side)..., Wraith breaking speed Etc. since the difference between survivor players coordinating or not and that the game gives them more and more ways to do so, we should encourage agency to the killer side too, and diminishing downtimes would be an easy way to start since you can go back on the change any time. Don't you think the game gets stall when everyone is optimizing the meta and it never change?

  • Flopiyutiop
    Flopiyutiop Member Posts: 56
    edited June 7

    I d be all for that, he s so painfully slow and then you get new Vecna...

  • pidgeon
    pidgeon Member Posts: 342

    Dracula and Wesker DO NOT NEED BUFFS in any capacity like at all Wesker just recently got buffed. Draculas bat form is still really insane even after the nerfs again quite literally a top 5 killer I don't know why were even thinking about buffing him. If you need more than 7 hatchets per chase as Huntress you simply need to be more patient. Chucky doesn't need to break pallets that's like.. Not even a buff he needs? If anything give him increased power distance and he's set either way he's still a balanced killer and doesn't need changed. I agree Slinger reload add on should be made basekit though. I don't see how ghostface getting haste in shroud improves survivor coordination, but still a good change. Wraith is the most balanced killer in the game atm and shouldn't receive any changes imo.

    Buffing these killers won't stop people from optimising the meta or make the game less stale it just lowers the skill floor required to play these already balanced killers. (Aside from slinger/chucky/ghostface) And if you want to lower the "downtime" genuinely just get better in chase with these killers and stop suggesting we buff balanced killers and instead JUST focus on stuff like Trapper Hag Skully Ghostface genuine low tiers with no mobility or chase potential are the only ones in need of buffs as they struggle even against bad survivors

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,647

    Pyramidhead is garbage in 2v8 deffinitely worse then slinger or huntress and even nemi can be better due to his map preasure in 2v8.

    Phead only has antiloop and thats it and very hard to use and very easily punished by holding W.

    Each time I see him as survivor a dmile appears on my face because I know if my team wont screw up then its easy escape.

  • SkeletalElite
    SkeletalElite Member Posts: 2,933
    edited June 8

    Dracula is easily one of the strongest if not the strongest A tier killers in the game, with only a couple other killers being stronger than him. He does NOT need buffs

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,647

    Drac is great he has huge teleport distance,lover cooldowns and wolf form has 3 dashes these huge buffs on 1v4 high a-tier killer give you all tools you need to keep up even with swf in 2v8.

    Weskers vault speed with cooldown is like ghouls but his dashes are injuring and downing so he has only worse mobility in 2v8 then ghoul and takes mire effort to get injury then ghoul but then has everything better than goul has so only two things has ghoul better than 2v8 wesker.

    Wraith has like 5 sddons in hid basekit like best speed addon, both faster breaking snd vaulting speed addons, faster uncloak and cloak addons he is very big monster in 2v8 for how easy he is and has great breaking potencial but breaking isnt main thing here where survivors can repair broken pallets and thats where his speed and uncloak speed comes handy like if you arent using sprintburst class or you dont have sprint guy near or pallet when he uncloaks near you, you will get hit, he isnt best but tools he has are good for 2v8.

    Dont forget you want too much for already strong killers, they dont get anything because survivors slready despise them mostly because everyone runs them.

    Thing is devs stated this mode is survivor sided heaven so I doubt they will buff killers like wesker,drac,huntress at all. Maybe trapper after his tework snd ghostface.

  • Flopiyutiop
    Flopiyutiop Member Posts: 56

    When I play survivor with an efficient team, Wesker and Drac are maybe top 10, nowhere near the stronger side of the cast. You need to play them religiously in order to get consistent results, mainly because of the clunky interaction between their power and certain environments. With these changes they'd be smoother to play that's all. Wesker vault is basically useless on all tiles but god pallets (at least in 2v8 he can use it on long wall gyms when the survivor predrop). Changing Bat form range or traveling speed or cooldown would just be a QOL improvment to Drac mobility. If lowering the skill floor means making clunky parts of their power more functional, Im all for it, but these killers were not the ones I wanted to focus on anyway.

    With the Huntress, the problem is not that you need more hatchets in chase, you need them to keep the ball rolling after the chase without going out of your way to a locker (that's exactly why she gets so many in 2v8, no time to reload when you need to be pressuring gens). Chucky dash cant be change else it becomes a free it on cooldown again. Ghostface getting haste in Nightshroud means that when he marks you, it encourages somebody else to come and reveal him since otherwise he's gonna get you more easily with the increase speed.

    I dont think the team should focus all their efforts on the very bottom of the cast, even with gigantic buffs these killers will never get a place in today's meta, mainly because their kits offer very little in term of versatility or mobility. Buffing B-tier killers up a tier would improve their playerbase way more than buffing D-tier to C.

  • sirlemonhead
    sirlemonhead Member Posts: 152
    edited June 8

    If they buff Wesker without fixing the survivor wesker bound controller bug I reported over 3 years ago, I am legit uninstalling this game.

  • Abbzy
    Abbzy Member Posts: 3,647

    Not entirely true like yes some would like wesker,blight,nurse oni maybe (its more of zhing that he has buddy then the power buffs which makes him so strong there). But wraith would be a-tier with huntress maybe low a-tier.

    Many wouldnt be busted like trapper,ghostface,slinger,pyramidhead even killer like billy has only two addons in 2v8 and one isnt even his best only boots are there so people should more read power numbers because some killers have only few addons thrown into their kit and killer like billy who has spike boots snd that sddon reducing bump time (even the number is lower than his best addon for it in 1v4) but hasnt engravings which are his best after many years for exsample.

    More killers would jump into current a-tier but still I dont think they would be busted but that depends if their addons would stay same with effects they gain from 2v8 like breaking speed for wraith with sll his buffs and put perks on top of it then yes but there are still some killers that would be ok like teapper,ghostface,slinger, phead, even nemi he is same just few addon anf more of faster zombies but survivor team with glashlights would counter them way easier than in 2v8 where picking guarantee things is more limited.