What is the point of Springtrap now that Jason is out?

Lliart · July 12

Basically the title. After playing Jason for a few games, it feels like Jason is just a better version of Springtrap. With Jason's on-demand stealth where he can come out at much more favorable spots, his projectile being able to hit more reliably and from further away with more narrow spots, and an insta-kill on last hook, it feels like Springtrap got left in the dust.

Is there any hope on the horizon here for Afton here or is he doomed to be power-crept out by Jason?

ShanoaLegendaryPlz · July 12

To be honest springtrap felt like a better version of xeno except for the m2 cooldown. I think Jason power crept quite a few killers.

Mazoobi · July 12

Springtrap still has the edge with vertical shots compared to Jason's horizontal spikes but only time will tell if/when BHVR will tone down Jason sooner or later.

random1543 · July 12

Jason needs to be toned down but Spring trap could use some buffs.

Regardless what it is I think the doors would be the thing to change and fiddle with to try and give him buffs not so much the axe.

Angy_Quentin · July 12

Buff weaker killers, dont stompnerf newer killers.

Jason is fine apart from hexes and addons.

Domicci · July 12

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/469888/what-is-the-point-of-springtrap-now-that-jason-is-out

both are good i prefer springtrap sense his axe is more what i like in projectiles

Domicci · July 12

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4098775#Comment_4098775

just make it so when your on a totem you don't show up as red

zonkednb · July 12

I guess the point of Springtrap is to listen to PJ Heywood have the time of his life voice acting.

There are some niche addon combos that allow Springtrap to do things Jason can't and Springtrap can hit over more loops due to his arc.

That doesn't mean that Jason isn't just doing the same thing but better in 95% of cases though.

TheMruczek · July 12

A new killer powercreeping older release in the same archetype? Woah, completely unexpected.

Some people raised the point that Afton has more vertical projectile, but unless you are using Freddy's hat, the orbitals are too inconsistant.

I think you could do a more radical rework to Springtrap, with him being either fully 115 or smth between it and 110 movement speed. We make Freddy's hat fully base-kit and allow him to be faster while holding m2 since either way his zoning is almost dead with this add-on. You could make him fully undetectable until you reveal him through cameras as well.

Angy_Quentin · July 12

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4098782#Comment_4098782

Yes, you are technically in a crouched position so it even fits.

That way he has to leave OE and check on them.

Mr_K · July 12

43 killers, there's going to be overlap.

100PercentBPMain · July 12

Springtrap is beautiful and handsome and his actors having fun; Jason's design is eh so there's that.

THE4saknbacn · July 12

springtrap is way more fun imo

And the axe grab is really entertaining to me

LordGlint · July 12

https://forums.bhvr.com/dead-by-daylight/discussion/comment/4098783#Comment_4098783

Theres also the 20 seconds of undetectable. Alot of times ppl will be STARING at a door panel expecting the killer to come from there, so if you go to the next door over and walk over... you'll surprise them.