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I'm not a fan of Legion but...
Really Devs? What in the world are you thinking?
You may as well delete him and refund those that purchased the chapter.
Fingers crossed you don't ruin Freddy too.
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They are will be basically the mini-trappers without the traps. No reward for using their power.
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Yeah, I am done playing Legion. They are going to destroy them...
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I don't like vs'ing Legion, but gutting his power is not the answer.
His power needs to be reworked. no-one is now going to play Legion and i won't be recommending the chapter or this game with killer ruining decisions.
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I agree, @CronaWins. Legion can be annoying to play against at times (they needed worked on), but they are completely destroying them with this change.
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Lose Frenzy on missed attack, full gauge to use, slower Frenzy, bigger Terror Radius AND the timer doesn't go down when in it. What the hell?
I understand why they made it so that the timer doesn't go down in the terror radius but they shouldn't have made it bigger.
The main problems I have with this are the slower Frenzy and the missed attack thing. Having a slower Frenzy makes it even harder to chain hits, even if a survivor is inside the Terror Radius most of the time I can't even reach them in time. And it's not as easy as it seams to hit someone when in Frenzy, it can be juked.
Devs, I know you still have time to change it. Don't bring all of this changes.
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Hopefully some of these changes never make it into the game.
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Another problem is also that the timer doesn't go down on Frenzy hit...WHAT?!
What are you supposed to do if there are no other survivors nearby?
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Take a stun, obviously.
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i absolutly hate legion. most annoying killer in the game in my opinion if you ask me.
but i agree too that he got nerved WAY to much. but you guys all think to negative on this, on PTB you can actually test this and see if its that bad. even if it is bad, the forum is there for a reason. feedback is the key.
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@LCGaster They also increased base movement speed, and frenzy duration.
Try not to omit balance changes when trying to make an update sound horrid.
The only issue I see is losing ALL of your power when missing a single hit.
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Finish them at the increased 115% move speed? Not rely on a speed chase tactic?
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It's nice they are doing a mini community test for this first before implementing, I want to try it first (console so I'm relying on PC legions/players to save this) but they sure went overboard at face value
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@LCGaster Makes me glad I already ran M&A over the TR changes but that loss on a missed hit, that's crazy, do they know how fast you move and how blurred it can be esp if you use addons, I usually do get first hit but occasionally esp after vaulting a pallet I'm liable to miss an attack due to my FOV and survs trying to revault or change directions.
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That is how I felt when they nerfed Freddy, now you guys can feel what it is like to be nerfed for no reason.
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I do like the 115% movement speed. But I like the power they have now. I don't want them to become an M1 killer. The main problem for me is that you lose Frenzy when you miss an attack and the slower speed.
But I guess I'll wait for PC players to give their opinion on the PTB.
And yes, in my last quote I was a bit pissed. I do see that that's not that big of a problem.
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Remember when people in the PTB said Legion wasn't fun and that he should be tweaked before release?
How many other times was PTB feedback given and ultimately ignored by the devs?
These changes will all go through with slight number changes and the devs will think it's fine.
I am SO glad I didn't spend money let alone put much effort into playing and levelling Legion up.
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@LCGaster I understand, it's all good.
But yeah, if they tweaked it to maybe losing a % on missed hit, or just being stunned like you ran out, I feel it would be better received.
not_queen did also say that she believes the new addon changes will allow you to down them with Feral frenzy, just not base mode.
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Yeah, I'll just wait and see.
Legion, I will enjoy this last few days with you guys as you are now.
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That is probably my biggest issue with the Legion update (losing your power after missing a hit). I sometimes miss a hit because of lag, 360s, etc... It's a bit much. @Kiskashi
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See ya legion. You won't be missed by me.
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Legion like this is a m1 killer with a power that can be used as bad map travers. Thats it. Very loopable.
The rare occasion that you hit multiple close survivors (after they know its legion players with more then 80 iq wont group up anymore) and then chase 1 of them dosent make up for that.
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One less Legion player.
Score.
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Time and time again the devs show they have no idea what they are doing and ruin a killer that already has terrible kill potential unless exploiting. How about you guys just fix the exploiting instead of making him useless? Do you guys understand how powerful survivors are, and how they dictate the pace of the game in red/purple ranks? I was totally down for a rework to make him less aids for players to go against, but a complete and utter gutting? R.I.P
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