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What should I do about body-blocking survivors and object looping?

I have enjoyed playing killer, but I'm seriously consider playing a survivor only because whenever I play as killer, these rank 10-14s object and pallet loop where it is impossible to chase them or kill them when they do this They do this with the shack that has a window and pallet in it(works regardless of whether a pallet is there or not). They will do it with walls, and any object that takes longer than 2 seconds to walk around. If I chase them from a gen or something they find the nearest object and loop around it. I can get them SOMETIMES, but very rarely, with stupid effort, and wasting a lot of time. Often times this wastes too much time so when they start doing this I just go back to patrolling gens and other areas. Meanwhile the person who was pallet looping walks back to their gen and keeps repairing it(obviously I damage it every time). I'm then forced to keep the object looper on check while patrolling the map(rarely I can get these people down and on the hook). If I stray too far from the looper then they get their gen completely repaired and repeat the process on other gens. Often times its the whole team that does this.

The only way I've adapted to this to even have the smallest chance of fighting against this is if I play nurse, huntress, wraith, or trapper. (I dont have any bought killers except the shape). I feel so restricted on what killers I can play because of this problem.

Today, my survivors did something I've never seen before. I downed one of them (after they object looped for a good minute or two[did this to get bloodlust and escalate the chase]). As soon as I picked them up, the whole entire team(the other 3) were on me like crazy. They swamped the hook, and I hit 2 of them trying to hook my victim but the victim was able to get free because of the body blocking. After they got down, they ran towards the open gate and I lost the game. A few games before that, someone tried body blocking the door frame and running around me in order to stall me bringing someone to the hook. I try to hit them but this wastes more time, and I don't have time to hit a survivor 2 times while bringing someone to the hook without the victim getting free. There is just no way to coexist with body blocking, especially when the whole team does it. At this point it doesn't seem like I will ever make it past rank 15 on a killer.

I guess my only option is to play a survivor and give the killer a fair game like it should be. I admit that killers can be just as dirty by camping or face camping, and I hate that too. At least face camping allows the other survivors to put massive gen pressure on and therefore deny the killer bloodpoints and other kills.


So what should I do about these kinds of survivors? I want to persevere and become a better killer, but if higher ranked matches at killer is all this kind of stuff with these kinds of survs, I'm no longer interested in playing killer at all. And that was my favorite part about playing this game. I haven't had a single match since I hit rank 15 killer where at least one of the survs didn't do this. I can't think of any perk, any killer(except nurse), or any way to counter this. I don't like playing that hex: no one escapes thing because it ruins the fun for both sides. And, even so, it's only when the exit gates are down.


Like I said, it's looking like all I can do to avoid the BS is just to be a survivor and do my part to not do this kind of stuff. Whenever I play survivor I rarely see my team do these things, and I of course don't. But when it happens on my team, the killer isn't hindered by it, and I have no idea why or how. You have to chase for a long time to get bloodlust and be faster than the survivor you are chasing to even have a chance on loopers. Meanwhile all the other survivors can get a gen half done if not more.

Am I missing something with this?

Comments

  • Zefier
    Zefier Member Posts: 23

    If the behaviour happens often, punish them. That's what perks like Mad Grit are for, pick that up and smack the bodyblockers til your hearts content. Otherwise not much else you can do but try to force your way through.


    As for loops, Bamboozle is good for windows, and I've found success mind gaming people. Dont always do the loop, shake it up. Turn around and go the other way on them, run backwards so they cant see the red stain turning towards them and clip them around the corner.


    You'll be surprised how many people you catch by being unpredictable.


    But yeah, I highly advise Mad Grit for bodyblockers, it ruins their day when they become a liability and not a help.

  • BigBlackMori
    BigBlackMori Member Posts: 220

    Just play survivor. It's honesty easier and more relaxing.

  • Zefier
    Zefier Member Posts: 23

    Oh, and watch some good killer mains on youtube like Monto, theres great builds and chasing tricks you can learn. I only started playing last week I'm pushing into rank 13 without even trying, just farming BPs. A little study can give you a disturbing edge in the lower ranks.

  • kisfenkin
    kisfenkin Member Posts: 619

    If the entire team is body blocking, I find it is easier to drop the survivor, and down them all. They are all right next to you, so nobody is working on generators. Things are going much better for you than you thought. It should become second nature for you to keep an eye out for survivors after you down one, because body blocking is the least of your worries when they can all bring a flashlight. So do a quick 360 before picking up the downed survivor.

    As for looping, it really depends on the killer and their ability. If you are playing huntress, for instance, learn how to throw those hatchets. Perks and add-ons can help you with chasing as well. Some to slow down survivors, some to speed up your attacks/vaults/breaking pallets. My tip here, besides reading your abilities, perks, and add-ons, is to break those pallets as soon as possible.

    Finally, you definitely should try playing some survivor. I feel that there is no better way to learn what you've been doing wrong than to experience the other side of the game.

  • Plu
    Plu Member Posts: 1,456
    edited April 2019

    For bodyblocking you can't do much but hit the guy before he even blocks you and for looping, you need to know each loop and how to play around it, here's some quick guides from Scott, they helped me alot.


  • deeperdaddymyers69
    deeperdaddymyers69 Member Posts: 9

    Watch good people play killer and learn how they anti-loop and note that you can drop a carried survivor with R (PC).

  • Hoodied
    Hoodied Member Posts: 13,022

    @Almo You are the first dev to NOT have the BHVR logo as their pfp

  • PiiFree
    PiiFree Member Posts: 1,154

    @Almo

    Well yes, if your goal is to Survive then I can imagine Killer being the easier role :-)

    ...although playing too much Killer can slowly kill you in the inside...

  • Acromio
    Acromio Member Posts: 1,737

    @op Pallet-looping is an uncounterable exploit for which survivors lobbied the devs, who eventually gave it to them with patch 1.1.1. It has no counter aside from playing the Nurse, which is a very frustrating character to learn.

  • Kagrenac
    Kagrenac Member Posts: 773

    Take the pallets and don't respect them.

    You can quite literally get rid of loops by just taking a pallet and breaking it. Spirit fury and enduring are great for anti looping.

    Bodyblocking can be solved by just dropping the survivor or running mad grit

  • Saint_Ukraine
    Saint_Ukraine Member Posts: 942

    >I guess my only option is to play a survivor and give the killer a fair game like it should be.

    You call looping and body blocking unfair? They're just trying to survive, my guy. They loop so they don't die, and they body block so that they're teammates don't die.

    I actually recommend that you play survivor and watch what killers do in order to end chases fast. This'll give you a better idea of how you should play killer.

  • DBD_Pinhead
    DBD_Pinhead Member Posts: 763

    Drop the survivor so you can drop more. Swing away and they'll usually scatter like roaches. Unless they're all running second chance perks...

  • MegsAreEvil
    MegsAreEvil Member Posts: 819

    @Acromio: Youre joking right? No one can take you serious.