Poor Piggy! Is she the worst killer now?

I don't think pig is useless but she certainly didn't get any upper hand here. I'd say Legion though. They could have made him balanced but frankly they went overboard with the nerfs (and gave very little to compensate)

@Acesthetiic Doesn't Pig get a free 4(5) usage of Whisper tho?

I'm saying this as someone who can't play the PTB, so all I have to go on is just my thoughts, but I think she lost nearly all of her Endgame potential. Her Ambush is not helpful during the Endgame, and with her Traps being neutered, she's basically stuck as an M1 killer with effectively no power during the Endgame. I think that's probably when she was at her best (and she wasn't really great otherwise), so I think it does hurt her significantly.

1) Traps now only become active when a Generator is finished; they no longer automatically become active once all the gens are finished.

2) Traps no longer automatically kill the Survivor when they cross through the Exit Gate unless the timer is active.

3) Timers now pause when within the Pig's Terror Radius (in addition to while being downed or on a hook) instead of while in a chase.

That means you have to use the RBT right before the last gen had finished, that's it :3

Somebody: Her RBT is useless now cuz it doesn't click when the Survivors within her TR...

Me: Ever heard of Pig's crouch?

I hate when people start topics without linking what they are referring to. It's incredibly rude to assume everyone has seen the same things you've seen imho. This is the relevant part for this thread:

"The Pig

• RBTs only become active whenever a generator is completed. Inactive RBTs will no longer trigger when attempting to leave via an exit gate. *NOTE: Initiating the End Game Collapse will not complete generators, but will block them. This means that any inactive RBTs will remain inactive.
• The RBT timer now stops if the Survivor is within the Terror Radius, as opposed to when in a Chase."

I don't think any of this is necessary. End game collapse isn't a good enough reason to make these changes.

@TAG Again, gonna repeat myself, doesn't she basically get 4,5 uses of Whispers? Just a downgraded version?

Pig got nerfed but its balanced ive seen alot of pigs in the ptb with blood warden her change its ok ppl just want to be toxic to the survivor in the endgame

Not as bad as the new Legion. At least she can still benefit from her ambush and traps in the early and mid game. While legion can only chase and expect to get an m1 hit, and hope they don't have MoM or DH.

@powerbats no it doesn't. You can still follow them while crouching.

The major issue with Pigs nerf isnt the terror radius nerf. It's the fact that the traps are no longer immediately activated when placed after all the gens are done. Used to be, you could hook someone, and ACTUALLY LEAVE THE HOOK, to go look for other people, because they were trapped so it was safe, they couldn't just get unhooked and leave immediately. Now she has absolutely zero end game potential, and if she gets a hook end game, she has to camp that hook to secure a kill, just like every other killer.

If they get caught and go down and get trapped AFTER one of the doors is ALREADY OPEN then they deserve to die anyway.

Not lying they were trying blood warden while i was looking the new kill in the end game collapse

They put on the stop timer thing so it deters the piggie from chasing survivors from jigsaw box to jigsaw box or downing them while using the jigsaw box.

Honestly when I played piggie I was unsure most of the time of when the timer actually started on a bear trap. I thought it already started when a gen finished. But I have been in games and seen the timer start in different ways so I wasn't sure.

I knew they were going to nerf her a bit due to the end game. Was just hoping it wasn't major.

The nerfs to Piggy are big but she is still better than Legion. And Freddy is still a tad weaker than Legion.

I'm gonna miss being able to play Piggywiggy. The timer nerf isn't so bad, but the endgame nerf is just ridiculous imo.

@Incirion

From watchinf panda's stream yesterday i saw you can see it being active and stopping

This is exactly why I am getting annoyed people don't understand why pig is so bad now.

Do you know the rng on removing traps are stupid it's very easy! the pressure comes from the pig chasing people off jigsaw boxes now she can't unless she crouch chases which is slow and trust me being chased off a jigsaw box is not a huge thing! it's just added pressure and to be honest I ignore people with traps a majority of the time as they are off gens and that's good. I might hurt them to give pressure and only will get people off boxes if I come across them it's just added pressure. Plus this is Amanda she doesn't play fair lol This is something she needs as her power in its self is not powerful but now it's none existent power.

It takes alot to annoy me but people saying oh it's not that bad shows they have no understanding of pig.

Any pig mains that can explain why this isn't bad I will love to listen to understand I guess when something you love gets done dirty it's easy to be lost in the anger. 🐷

Good luck getting yourself RBT'ed right before the last gen were done! You're just gonna waste a lot of your time to travel the map to find a Jigsaw Box or get yourself killed by your stupid teammates for popping the last gen+open the exit gate!

Many people thinks her RBT is useless due to EGC but ignores the fact that the RBT still activates right after the last gen were done, and if someone opened the exit gate and triggers the EGC, you just get fcked! If you don't put RBT on their head right before the last gen were popped, I'm sorry, but you're the one who's bad, not The Pig!

Most of you think the timer stopped when they're within Pig's TR fcked her up too, but didn't realized that the RBTs is used for stall the game, not for kill! When a Survivor has a RBT on their head, they will doing nothing except looking for Jigsaw Boxes most of the time. That means that's one less Survivor doing gens. Less Survivors on gens means more time for you to down and hook Survivors. If you used RBT just for kill, or tunnel/camp the fck out of the one with RBT, again, you're bad, not The Pig!

@GhostrickSpecter They probaly will make changes, but say that people are bad just because they cant get a bear trap on before the last gen. The whole reason this logic doesnt work is it is ao situationally you may get lucky and get the all the survivor trap, but then they. can get lucky get the trap of first time because of rng. Also Easy counter quickly gen rush and even if aperson gets one trap after one gen there are still 3 survivors left. There is not enough time for you to trap every aurvivor before the gates open making the leftover traps useless. As a pig main i really think if your going to say that people suck if they can't adapt to huge and devstating changes its like you want people to play nurse and billy. Ifinally challenge you with going on the ptb and play her because i played her and so have other streams who agree with what im saying.

At least she can hit a survivor right away. Freddy still has to wait for seven seconds.

@Acesthetiic If RNG was the whole reason that made the killer bad, why don't you just play other killer with no RNG mechanics and stop complain about it?

I'm tired of people like these in.this forum.

I'm a Pig main since her release and I do understand about her! Yeah, the changes may sound like it killed her, but think about it!

What if they don't do something on her and she tried to tried to open the gate by herself, hook the trapped guy and triggers Blood Warden, and patrol the jigsaw boxes? How were you suppose to get the trap off in time if she do so?