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Are they stopping the mori spamming?

ThePloopz
ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
in General Discussions
Are they changing mori to where it’s just a button press instead of the channel? The mori bm spam some killers do is pretty annoying especially when you weren’t even toxic and they mori spam you.It makes me regret not being toxic because at least then I know I deserved it lol

Comments

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Doubt it.

    They haven't taken away flashlight clicking, teabag spamming, and vault/pallet/TotH spamming. Or slashing a hooked victim.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Visionmaker said:
    Doubt it.

    They haven't taken away flashlight clicking, teabag spamming, and vault/pallet/TotH spamming. Or slashing a hooked victim.

    ^ This.
    Seems like BMin' is part of the tradition in this game.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited May 2018
    Runiver said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Doubt it.

    They haven't taken away flashlight clicking, teabag spamming, and vault/pallet/TotH spamming. Or slashing a hooked victim.

    ^ This.
    Seems like BMin' is part of the tradition in this game.



     A lot of "bming" is part of the psychological warfare. The problem is when it's out of line, which I'm guessing can sometimes be hard to assess.
  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    Visionmaker said:
    Runiver said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Doubt it.

    They haven't taken away flashlight clicking, teabag spamming, and vault/pallet/TotH spamming. Or slashing a hooked victim.

    ^ This.
    Seems like BMin' is part of the tradition in this game.



     A lot of "bming" is part of the psychological warfare. The problem is when it's out of line, which I'm guessing can sometimes be hard to assess.
    I consider it out of line when the game is over and people send messages after the match. In game I think most of it is ok because it’s kind of like how in sports they trash talk each other. I just don’t like the mori one because they can hold the game hostage with that one like I was the last survivor and he was doing it for about 10 minutes. At least with other forms of bm they can’t keep you there.
  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685

    I consider it out of line when the game is over and people send messages after the match. In game I think most of it is ok because it’s kind of like how in sports they trash talk each other. I just don’t like the mori one because they can hold the game hostage with that one like I was the last survivor and he was doing it for about 10 minutes. At least with other forms of bm they can’t keep you there.

    If someone was doing that to you for 10 minutes then holy hell , there must be more too this story too why he/she felt a need to troll you like that Ofc not going to rule out they may just be a dick too.

  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    AlexAnarchy said:

    I consider it out of line when the game is over and people send messages after the match. In game I think most of it is ok because it’s kind of like how in sports they trash talk each other. I just don’t like the mori one because they can hold the game hostage with that one like I was the last survivor and he was doing it for about 10 minutes. At least with other forms of bm they can’t keep you there.

    If someone was doing that to you for 10 minutes then holy hell , there must be more too this story too why he/she felt a need to troll you like that Ofc not going to rule out they may just be a dick too.

    Oh well the other 3 survivors were being really really toxic so I think I just happened to be the one who caught his wrath
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @AlexAnarchy said:

    I consider it out of line when the game is over and people send messages after the match. In game I think most of it is ok because it’s kind of like how in sports they trash talk each other. I just don’t like the mori one because they can hold the game hostage with that one like I was the last survivor and he was doing it for about 10 minutes. At least with other forms of bm they can’t keep you there.

    If someone was doing that to you for 10 minutes then holy hell , there must be more too this story too why he/she felt a need to troll you like that Ofc not going to rule out they may just be a dick too.

    Could be true, could be untrue.
    I've seen killers being offensive to random survivors because they got pissed from their previous rounds.
    Also, some killers are just here to ruin survivor's day. I've seen streamers saying they're only here to make survivors to feel bad.

    People are just weird.

  • AlexAnarchy
    AlexAnarchy Member Posts: 685

    Oh well the other 3 survivors were being really really toxic so I think I just happened to be the one who caught his wrath

    yeah...Sadly I can admit I have gotten so upset with survivors in some of my rounds that I just went chaotic on all of them after , even when not deserving.

  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    AlexAnarchy said:

    Oh well the other 3 survivors were being really really toxic so I think I just happened to be the one who caught his wrath

    yeah...Sadly I can admit I have gotten so upset with survivors in some of my rounds that I just went chaotic on all of them after , even when not deserving.

    I’m pretty sure everyone  has had a moment like that. I know have at least or sometimes I’ll play trapper and do the trap tbag thing through a game so frustration doesn’t build
  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

  • Spudbar
    Spudbar Member Posts: 21

    @Runiver said:
    Seems like BMin' is part of the tradition in this game.

    They should bring back the old Wraith bell spam. The game has never been the same since it was removed.

  • lionsou
    lionsou Member Posts: 61
    edited May 2018

    I honestly understand where you're coming from and so honestly you are taking the game hostage however if you were being chased an the dying survivor was underneath the killer, when the killer presses M1 to hit you, it would automatically lock on to the dying survivor making you get a quick getaway. So, I understand that it's a problem however it cannot be solved at this point in time without the full evaluation of Pro's and Con's.

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Or maybe you can... you know, not being toxic at all?

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    @White_Owl said:

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Or maybe you can... you know, not being toxic at all?

    i'm not toxic, partner. not in the least.... in fact, i'm quite a friendly killer. but i'm still a killer.... i don't camp. i don't tunnel. i don't even use mories.... i used one once for a ritual and sent an apology after the game.... but while i'm not toxic, i'm also a realist.... i know i have no right to say how other ppl should play their game.... theres lots of things in game i'm not a fan of..... but till they're removed, i'm not in any position to dictate how they should be used. as far as killer mains go, i'm probably the most pro-survivor one you'll find. but the fact is - ppl payed their own money for their own copy of the game and should be able to play any way they want withen the set rules and mechanics.... i'm not salty. i'm just real....

  • White_Owl
    White_Owl Member Posts: 3,786
    edited May 2018

    @deadwolfwalking said:

    @White_Owl said:

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Or maybe you can... you know, not being toxic at all?

    i'm not toxic, partner. not in the least.... in fact, i'm quite a friendly killer. but i'm still a killer.... i don't camp. i don't tunnel. i don't even use mories.... i used one once for a ritual and sent an apology after the game.... but while i'm not toxic, i'm also a realist.... i know i have no right to say how other ppl should play their game.... theres lots of things in game i'm not a fan of..... but till they're removed, i'm not in any position to dictate how they should be used. as far as killer mains go, i'm probably the most pro-survivor one you'll find. but the fact is - ppl payed their own money for their own copy of the game and should be able to play any way they want withen the set rules and mechanics.... i'm not salty. i'm just real....

    This is a multiplayer game, it means it's based on being in a community. And usually being civil is the key of being in a community. Toxicity must be condemned, not embraced and spread out.
    BTW my first comment wasn't aimed at you in particular, but at your comment.

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    i agree 100%. toxicity is bullshit.... it is. i don't like it at all. but you curb toxicity by promoting good will with your own playstyle.... not by changing the game itself. do you think 'eliminating mori spam BUT keeping t-bagging and gen tapping' is gonna make killers less toxic? do you think its gonna make survivors less toxic? its not magic.... whats gonna fix toxicity is discussions like the one we're having now. changing ppls minds. NOT changing ppls games.... now yall go ahead an 'vote me down' all you want but it doesn't change the facts....

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited May 2018
    deadwolfwalking said:

    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D


    Um.. Yes. Preferably no one is toxic but of course, you have to bring this to a zero sum mentality...

    Survivors are OP hurdeedur, so we can't change anything about everything. Let's leave killer toxicity in the game because survivors have SB /s

    Meanwhile the devs have been doing nothing but delivering survivor nerfs and killer buffs for the last 5 months.

    Next thing you know, some salty killer main is going to raid a thread about buffing Calm Spirit and screaming off the top of their lungs because "survivors r OP! NO BUFFS!" 🙄
  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    @Visionmaker said:
    deadwolfwalking said:

    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Um.. Yes. Preferably no one is toxic but of course, you have to bring this to a zero sum mentality...

    Survivors are OP hurdeedur, so we can't change anything about everything. Let's leave killer toxicity in the game because survivors have SB /s

    Meanwhile the devs have been doing nothing but delivering survivor nerfs and killer buffs for the last 5 months.

    survivor nerfs? such as what? pallet vacuums? pallet balancing (removing one pallet on a few and adding pallets to most. shelter woods is an excellent example)? gen tapping and hex placement has ALWAYS been an issue. nobody cares.... but dribbling to avoid DS so now 3 drops and its over.... camping was a problem so swinging hooks came in for you.... yet hook blocking is still a problem for killers....

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited May 2018
    deadwolfwalking said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    deadwolfwalking said:

    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Um.. Yes. Preferably no one is toxic but of course, you have to bring this to a zero sum mentality...

    Survivors are OP hurdeedur, so we can't change anything about everything. Let's leave killer toxicity in the game because survivors have SB /s

    Meanwhile the devs have been doing nothing but delivering survivor nerfs and killer buffs for the last 5 months.

    survivor nerfs? such as what? pallet vacuums? pallet balancing (removing one pallet on a few and adding pallets to most. shelter woods is an excellent example)? gen tapping and hex placement has ALWAYS been an issue. nobody cares.... but dribbling to avoid DS so now 3 drops and its over.... camping was a problem so swinging hooks came in for you.... yet hook blocking is still a problem for killers....


    You realize that hook swivel was added like last year right? Lol

    The pallet concentration change... The window spawn change.. The nurse blink mobility buff... The upcoming pallet vacuum removal... Adding pallet mind games..  Borrowed Time nerf...

    And you DO realize that they're been talking about hex placement for the last month already right? And they've constantly talked about it in Dev Q&As and streams? And that they're scrapping the DS change to try something else?

    Really? Gen tapping? *That's on your list of problems?* What survivors are you facing that can't hit the hex skill check? Are you just mad just to be mad? 🙄
  • ThePloopz
    ThePloopz Member Posts: 1,010
    Visionmaker said:
    deadwolfwalking said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    deadwolfwalking said:

    ok. so the new rule should be if a survivor isn't toxic then the killer isn't allowed to be toxic? so now survivors are not only in control of the gameplay and pace of the match, they're also in control of the killers response as well? we need a preset screen like in kyf so you can check off all the things you don't allow.... gen tapping - yes. t-bags - yes. pallet looping - yes. speed hacks - yes. camping - no. tunneling - no. mori spam - no.... thats a much better system.... :D

    Um.. Yes. Preferably no one is toxic but of course, you have to bring this to a zero sum mentality...

    Survivors are OP hurdeedur, so we can't change anything about everything. Let's leave killer toxicity in the game because survivors have SB /s

    Meanwhile the devs have been doing nothing but delivering survivor nerfs and killer buffs for the last 5 months.

    survivor nerfs? such as what? pallet vacuums? pallet balancing (removing one pallet on a few and adding pallets to most. shelter woods is an excellent example)? gen tapping and hex placement has ALWAYS been an issue. nobody cares.... but dribbling to avoid DS so now 3 drops and its over.... camping was a problem so swinging hooks came in for you.... yet hook blocking is still a problem for killers....


    You realize that hook swivel was added like last year right? Lol

    The pallet concentration change... The window spawn change.. The nurse blink mobility buff... The upcoming pallet vacuum removal... Adding pallet mind games..  Borrowed Time nerf...

    And you DO realize that they're been talking about hex placement for the last month already right? And they've constantly talked about it in Dev Q&As and streams? And that they're scrapping the DS change to try something else?

    Really? Gen tapping? *That's on your list of problems?* What survivors are you facing that can't hit the hex skill check? Are you just mad just to be mad? 🙄
    😂 your nea avatar fits this the tone of this conversation so perfectly 
  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    i'm not mad, partner. and changes are just changes. i don't even use hexes.... ruin has been in my shrine at least 3 times and i haven't bothered with it. i'm not even calling for changes to anything.... i'm saying toxic ppl will always find a way to be toxic. changing the game won't change the person....

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited May 2018

    @ThePloopz said:
    😂 your nea avatar fits this the tone of this conversation so perfectly 

    Toxic nea getting to my head. ;)

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    i'm not mad, partner. and changes are just changes. i don't even use hexes.... ruin has been in my shrine at least 3 times and i haven't bothered with it. i'm not even calling for changes to anything....

    Changes are shifting the balance. That poor little survivor you caught who ran themselves into a deadend in the abbatoir because the window was boarded up? Yeah, that was the product of the change, not your skill. The fact that you're not spending 20 years in the center trash piles every time you spawn in Autohaven Wreckers? Product of change, not your skill. Your camping victim escaped bc of BT but you managed to down the rescuer? Change. Your perception may not change, but your gaming experience sure has.

    i'm saying toxic ppl will always find a way to be toxic. changing the game won't change the person....

    Okay then, maybe make that your argument instead of off-tangent whining about OP survivors in a thread about toxicity. In response to your argument, I simply disagree. When a person is being toxic and using a tool to be toxic (taunting, bodyblocking/holding the game hostage, face camping, hostile endgame chat etc.) game design can be prevent and discourage these tools from being used. There is so much the devs of DBD can learn from other, more successful games in preventing and punishing toxicity, and the only problem is that they have yet to implement these strategies.

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    it seems to me that instead of counter-measures being taken, toxicity is being encouraged.... its not just a matter of not knowing how to fix an issue, they're deliberately avoiding the issue altogether. as for me 'whining' earlier, its wasn't a whine. survivors do control the tone and pace of the game.... at least from rank 12 on through 1.... i'm not saying survivors are op. i'm not asking for killers to be buffed. i'm just hoping that killers and survivors both eventually realize that we NEED each other to play. i can have a fun game and still get wrecked. i can 4k and still be mad as ****.... its a give an take between survivors and killers.... thats all....

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    and this forum has the potential to do more for the health of this game than any 'bug fixes or nerfs' ever could.... ppl talking things out is the way to go....

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    @Visionmaker

    look here, partner. we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. i'm perfectly willing to accept the lions share of the blame.... perhaps i came across as overly flippant regarding the issue. i'm a killer. i see killer sides. its obvious where you stand and thats cool too.... i originally bought the game to be a survivor. i'm a survivor fan.... BUT as it turns out, i'm not so great at games. and it stressed me that 3 other ppl were depending on me to not **** up.... i swear i've killed more ppl with dwight than i have with the wraith.... and i potato so many skill checks that ppl swear Ruin is active and spend most of their game looking for non-existent hexes.... we're cool. and i apologize for my end of this....

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    @Visionmaker

    look here, partner. we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. i'm perfectly willing to accept the lions share of the blame.... perhaps i came across as overly flippant regarding the issue. i'm a killer. i see killer sides. its obvious where you stand and thats cool too.... i originally bought the game to be a survivor. i'm a survivor fan.... BUT as it turns out, i'm not so great at games. and it stressed me that 3 other ppl were depending on me to not **** up.... i swear i've killed more ppl with dwight than i have with the wraith.... and i potato so many skill checks that ppl swear Ruin is active and spend most of their game looking for non-existent hexes.... we're cool. and i apologize for my end of this....

    No worries, I see your perspective. I had nothing more to add except that I agreed with your conclusion, so I just upvoted you. I apologize for the rudeness.

    I don't play killer a lot either because my eyes are bad. I just watch a lot of killer streams.

  • deadwolfwalking
    deadwolfwalking Member Posts: 624

    @Visionmaker said:

    @deadwolfwalking said:
    @Visionmaker

    look here, partner. we seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. i'm perfectly willing to accept the lions share of the blame.... perhaps i came across as overly flippant regarding the issue. i'm a killer. i see killer sides. its obvious where you stand and thats cool too.... i originally bought the game to be a survivor. i'm a survivor fan.... BUT as it turns out, i'm not so great at games. and it stressed me that 3 other ppl were depending on me to not **** up.... i swear i've killed more ppl with dwight than i have with the wraith.... and i potato so many skill checks that ppl swear Ruin is active and spend most of their game looking for non-existent hexes.... we're cool. and i apologize for my end of this....

    No worries, I see your perspective. I had nothing more to add except that I agreed with your conclusion, so I just upvoted you. I apologize for the rudeness.

    I don't play killer a lot either because my eyes are bad. I just watch a lot of killer streams.

    acknowledged.... have a great day....

  • emptyCups
    emptyCups Member Posts: 1,262

    two years later.... mori spam removed...