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Most balanced killers in your opinion?
Myers and Spirit for me.
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Freddy
The Nightmare
And Kruger
EDIT: This post alone is ~One-Fifth of my vote ups, how? Thanks for the vote ups, people!
Post edited by TheGameZpro3 on13 -
billy spirit hag and nurse are only viable killers and balanced but addons of nurse like extra blinks are unbalanced
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Pre-bug Spirit
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I didn't play Spirit in a while, which bug you are refering to? I hope they didn't touched her, she was perfect (except some useless add ons).
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@Judith entering phase walk or vaulting sometimes would cause a loud glass shattering noise that survivors could hear which significantly reduces her ability to mind game.
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Balanced is always a definition on how you interpret a win. When u consider yourself loosing a game when u dont get a 4K, then Nurse, Billy and Spirit are the only ones that are kinda balanced.
When 2-3K is a win for you, the roster of Killers become way larger. I would say:
Spirit
Billy
Huntress
Hag
Myers
Maybe also Clown, Doctor, Plague and Pig in some cases
Not the Nurse under that surcumstances, there she is definitly op.
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The Nurse. She's the only killer that turns the game into one of skill vs. skill. If you're better than the person playing the Nurse, you will survive. If not, you will die. No cheesy quasi-exploits are going to save you; only your skill can.
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Nurse. Billy.
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Thats not true. A really good Nurse will get a 4K no matter how good the survivors are. Maybe not on Game and Lerys tho. Once u master her, there is nothing that can stop her.
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Spirit.
The Devs made a rly good job with her.
And then they create Legion..............
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They're all underpowered.
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Which bug do you mean?
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Pig, Billy without addons I guess.
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Overall it's a really difficult question.
Nurse and Billy are ruled out off the bat, a lot of their abilities take survivor skill right off the table, like "oh boy you heard a chainsaw and hid on the West side of an object when you should have used magic powers and guessed to hide on the North side, EZ HOOK."
Legion, Freddy, Cannibal, Wraith, Clown, and Doctor all certainly lack enough to consistently control a game, whether it be map pressure, control over chases etc. Pig is decent but I would say her complete lack of useful add ons with a cookie cutter build shows that she has some fundamental flaws, not to mention the loss of her end game viability. I would put Trapper as currently one of the worst killers in the game, his power is FAR too in the hands of survivors, has too many built in counters, despite an add on rework he still has NECESSARY add ons, and requires huge set up time that the game simply doesn't allow.
Spirit, Myers and Huntress are all top contenders. Their base kits are strong and can easily net plenty of kills, though unlike Nurse and Billy, come with significant yet reasonable drawbacks. The only reason these 3 aren't up there is because they all possess what I would consider game-breaking add ons. Prayer Beads remove almost all survivor counterplay, and getting grabs before anyone in the match can even see the killer is a Spirit is laughable. Being able to mori someone as the potential first "hit" of a match, also potentially when they gave you 0 evil, and VERY early in the match in the case of Tombstone Piece + faster stalking is the furthest thing from balanced in this game. And Iridescent heads is permanent exposed status for essentially landing what is Huntresses basic attack.
In my eyes, it'd be Hag. She possesses map pressure, a power that affects chasing, reduced movement speed to make up for some of her significant strengths, and survivor-based counterplay to her power. Some of her add ons are pretty crap, and some have been bugged for months on end, but almost all of her common to rares are useful to a degree, and Mint Rag is incredibly strong used well, but not outright broken. She is fun, creates a distinct and unique game for survivors, and isn't a guaranteed win nor loss. Most importantly, she allows for many skill based plays on both sides.
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Nurse, Billy, and Spirit are not particularly balanced. They are easily the top tier killers and if you’re good with these killers (particularly Nurse and Spirit) there is no stoping you no matter how skillful the survivors are. If you are skillful with Nurse and Spirit you will mow through all survivors easily, their skill level is irrelevant.
The most balanced killers are Hag, Huntress, and Myers.
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If they removed the extra blink addons then the Nurse would be the most balanced killer in the game.
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So let's begin, Nurse is far too powerful to be branded a balanced killer. Pre bug Spirit chases way too fast for me to consider her balanced, but also she's also balanced because against a god tier Spirit, the games rely on her skill alone but she's susceptible to genrush, so in some aspects she's balanced, but in others shes imbalanced. It averages out to a balanced for me.
Hag is definitely balanced, she's not over the top. Billy is slightly weaker than Hag and is thus balanced. Bugged Spirit is imbalanced because she's weak. Huntress is balanced, and good. Same for Myers.
So only Myers, Billy, Hag and Huntress are balanced. That isn't in order of balance btw.
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Wraith, Billy and Hag.
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Billy and Nurse are the only killers that can compete at the highest levels of play, so they get my vote for most balanced.
They are also the least reliant on add-ons and perks of all the killers in the game too, which is nice for diversity.
Spirit, Huntress and Hag are up there, but rely too much on addons/have too weak a base kit to be balanced.
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@PeepingPeacock Spirit and Huntress do not rely on addons. Idk about Hag but I suspect she doesn't either.
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Hillbilly is probably the most balanced killer as he is.
Nurse without added blinks.
Spirit when they remove the sound effect when she vaults/phases and when sounds are eventually fixed.
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@NuclearBurrito Hag doesn't either. But Nurse or Billy don't too. Pig too, they just help her, but don't change much. Oh and Myers oh and Wraith.
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Pretty sure Wraith is addon reliant.
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@NuclearBurrito not exactly. His best addons are Windstorm, but his base invis speed is 126%. Which is 5.04 m/s. Slightly faster than Legions new frenzy. He feels slow, but he's fast af.
He doesn't need addons. He's basically Spirits weaker counterpart. But he's like A tier.
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Huntress isn't addon reliant, but she does have a problem with her kit. Map choice has way too much of an impact on how good huntress can be for her to be balanced, which is why I had the slash for the two options.
Spirit is addon reliant at higher ranks, she does not do consistently well without some form of slippers or cooldown. Totally disregarding the obviously powerful stuff like prayer beads.
Hag requires teleport distance on some maps, you can take that as being add on reliant or as a base kit weakness.
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I'd say the most balanced Killers should meet these criteria...
- They must average 2 kills on the highest rank.
- They must not rely on Add-ons to achieve this average.
- Their Add-ons mustn't boost them to consistently gain all kills, but having them shake up the average kill count is definitely not bad. (This is assuming the Survivors don't run Items & Perks btw.)
Yes, i count Add-ons in their criteria. It's part of their power after all.
I don't count Perks. They're FAR too special to just apply a criteria or 2, i'd have to determine those Perk by Perk, which i really don't feel like doing right now.
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I play Myers usually only with yellow add ons like dead rabbit and my average is most likely 2k+.
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Billy, Spirit, Hag, Huntress, and Myers. Nurse is too strong and the others too weak.
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"Once u master her, there is nothing that can stop her"
You just reinforced his point....she requires skill to play......aka you have to master her. One does not simply log into nurse with no skill and win games. Quite the opposite you will lose vigorously.
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Nurse without OMEGABLINKS and multiple blinks with no done side.
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The amount of people thinking Nurse and Billy are balanced is too damn high...
I mean think of the meaning of the word balanced...
Smth is balanced if there is smth left and right of it. You can´t balance a stick on one of its ends...
I agree with Huntress, Myers and Hag to be balanced (without the addons stated by @anarchy753 ).
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Nurse , Billy , Huntress, Spirit.
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Spirit, hands down.
Nurse and Billy are stupid OP
Freddy, Trapper and Wraith are stupid UP.
Pig, Plague and Legion are just stupid un-fun to play vs
Myers is prolly the most fun to play against.
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That's not true. A good nurse will always get 4k.
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2 blink nurse? not really . Play more
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Against potatoes, sure. So can every other killer.
Against survivors who know what they're doing, not so much.
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@PunL - I came on to say the same thing! Killers that 4K with little effort are NOT balanced.
I'd vote for The Spirit, because she'll probably win, but it's not guaranteed like it is with some "cheat mode" killers.
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No one because of the gen rush.
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The closest killer to balance is Michael, because in tier 1 he is pure stealth, tier 2 he has his lunge and a 24 meter TR, Tier 3 has a timer, slightly longer lunge, and 32 meter TR and One shots
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Spirit(non-bugged), Hag, Myers, Huntress and (possibly) Clown. Are the most "balanced" Killers imo right now. In terms of Killer vs Killer strength.
Nurse and Billy are on the stronger end, but this is where I feel Behaviour should be aiming when balancing all Killers. In regards to game balance I would say these two are most balanced. Hag and pre-bugged Spirit are close though.
The others are either just weak (Leatherface), unfun to play against (Doctor[imo], Legion), they rely way to much on Survivor interaction/knowledge (Wraith, Plague), or they are too slow in the set-up (Trapper). Obviously this is my opinion and Killers fall into multiple groups but I feel these are their strongest characteristics.
And then there is Freddy. Who falls into all the categories and does nothing to make up for it.
Post edited by GodDamn_Angela on4 -
I think Clown is balanced
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Sprit, Huntress and Hillbilly. Nurse will never be balanced but she's certainly not OP.
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@PeepingPeacock definitely wrong about Hag. Teleporting distance helps, but is definitely not necessary. I 4k without addons as I would with addons.
For Spirit I'll let @MegMain98 convince you, aa they did for me.
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Billy: is quite powerful and quite effective if you know how to use him but he's not so crazy then a good Billy would oppress survivors like nurse
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Billy, map presence and a useful power but not so powerful as to ignore Survivor counters.
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Tricky question, on one hand I'd say hillbilly since he's balanced in terms of high level play against survivors as he can play without ruin and hold down the game but has still has counterplay. Gen rushing still crushes most killers and if it wasn't so bad I'd say Clown/Myers/Plague are the most balanced.
I find Hag/Spirit/Nurse pretty oppressive as survivor with not much meaningful counter play. Huntress can also destroy but has counterplay and would be better off with some help with map dependency/speed
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Myers I think is the most balanced in general.
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Billy is the perfect killer. Overwhelmingly powerful in one area, but still 100% beatable.
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I main Spirit. She's an interesting one in terms of balance. I think Prayer Beads are stupid OP and should be ultra-rare, but Mother Daughter Ring is balanced because of the huge tradeoff with scratch marks not being visible when phasing. There's definitely counterplay to her, especially with Iron Will. Certain survivors know how to differentiate their pathing against her. Others take obvious routes or camp pallets. She can dominate chases, but maps like Haddonfield can be a nightmare for her. Overall I'd say she's really well balanced because the reward matches the required skill.
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The problem with alot of these posts, is its coming from a lot of players who probably never been in the red ranks on the current new system. Like Majority of killers struggle at those rank. Nurse is almost the only viable choice. But issues is buffing other killers and such makes them overbearing in lower ranks, All other killers are fairly balance but all struggle really hard in red ranks where its basically key that the survivors mess up in their game play in order for you to catch a win. Only killers that really really need some kind of buff are doc, pig trapper, wraith and for god sake already freddy. Most of those killers will struggle without using some of their strongest add-ons/perk set. Like doc blows pretty hard unless you're on the game with a impossible skillcheck build. Trapper takes way to long to get going unless you use his really strong add ons to block pallets completely. Wraith doesn't have much in his kit other than some surprise and blocking but also requires add ons for that to work.When it comes down to it theres to many killers add-on reliance
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