What is SWF?
Is it unfair?
Is it cheating?
What is it?
In my opinion, SWF is not cheating, because the game allows it.
But survivors can abuse SWF.
I just give you an example:
SWF team:
survivor 1: The Runner
Perks:
survivor 2: The Unhooker for the Healer
Perks:
survivor 3: The Healer
Perks:
survivor 4: The Noob(Gen/Totem Guy)
Perks:
What can this team do?
- They know the killer position for the complete game, because Voice Chat and Object Of Obsession.
- They can gen rush rly easy, because point no.1.
- The Healer can heal people in 8 seconds after the unhook.
- They can destroy all totems(Detective's Hunch).
- Adrenalin can heal the complete survivor team.
- MoM gives everyone an extra chance.
- They know every Killer perk and they can counter many killer perks.
- They can counter every Killer ability,because Voice chat.
But what can the devs do?
Do be clear.
Nobody wants a Voice chat, because toxic survivors.
Because 1 Youtuber teach them rly loud sounds.
The only thing would be a ping system.
But this would make ~50 perks useless.
On the killer and survivor side.
They could buff non-viable killers.
This would fix 1 problem.
Not Nurse and Billy in every High Rank game.
I would like a Community Contest for Killer Buff Ideas.
But hey,this is only my opinion.
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Odd how Mettle is in all of those builds...🤔
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Any good killer can counter SWF so no reason to change it
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Then tell me how a Wraith can hook all survivors 12 times.
Wraith chase 1 survivor and the other survivors do gens.
1 gen = 80 seconds
After 160 seconds, 5 gens can be activated with only 3 survivors.
So the Wraith chase time must be 20 seconds + the animation time/hit cooldown+slow.
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So you're tired of friends that play together and that's why you spent so much writing this post? Lol, swf is totally counterable, you just need to know how to play, whenever I play killer I don't mind seeying if they're friends or not, just accept your failure and go for the next match, trust you can do it better next time and forget any salty ######### because if you just rage with yourself, you will never beat them
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Then tell me, how a low-mid tier killer can beat 4 survivors in ~200 seconds.
I dont say SWF is bad.
I say its bad WHAT SWF could do.
And they can finsish the match in ~200 seconds.
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If we are talking about a non-experienced player, might be low ranked and that talks about him.
Also, if you are escarwd of a game that ends in 200 seconds (how the hell is that possible) then use ruin or the new perk from the plague
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".....how the hell is that possible"
I play DbD long enough to know, what is possible.
And I got many tryhards in my region.
And trust me, Ruin change nothing vs high skill survivors.
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you did well with explaining now can you also say what is camping and tunneling
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SWF = SWC survive while cheating ^^ lol
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High skilled survivors vs a low rank killer, nice example
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Camping counter = Boring Time.
And my SWF example has 2 times this perk.
Tunneling counter = DS
So in the SWF team 2 could use MoM and 2 DS.
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I didnt say low rank killer.
I said low TIER killer.
I said a High Rank killer can lose vs SWF, if the play a low TIER killer.
You know, I dont like only Nurse in High Rank.
This is way,I want more viable killers.
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I main nurse, but doesn't mean because she's the best, I just like her more than the rest and got good with her, but I also do daylies with the rest of all the killers, and with good technique you can kill everyone in any rank with any killer using, the and apropiate perks
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In ~200 seconds?
To be clear, I dont have a problem with normal SWF.
I have a problem, when survivors abuse it and finish the game in ~200 seconds.
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except no swf builds their perks like this because 1 person isn't going to get chased all game. and what's stopping the killer from chasing the healer or the gen guy? also swf doesn't automatically know all killer perks, and they sure as hell don't automatically counter killer abilities.
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I said, survivors could abuse SWF.
That mean high skill survivors use SWF with many strong perks.
And survivors have tons of informations.
They could know every killer perk, if they pay attention.
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SWF stands for Survive With Friends. You are welcome :)
Down votes coming in 3, 2, 1...
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SWF = Cheat With Friends
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A Legend
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okay, time to address this mess.
SWF = Survive with friends.
It's a game mode for people who want to play with their friends.
Or if you're a killer main who only plays killer, it's 4 legendary skilled players who want to abuse the game and troll you. Every single SWF team are trolls and they ALL need to be nerfed, because ya know..... casual SWF doesn't exist.
Killers can just as easily figure out survivor perks in the same way that survivors can figure out killer perks so I don't even know why someone mentioned that as an argument.
An you're also not going to find many WHOLE teams running this build. I play killer and I can tell you, it's not really a common thing to come across an entire team running those builds. (No one in my friend group runs MoM except me on my Ash who I rarely play)
And then you mention buffing killers under the assumption that ALL SWF team are try hard and super skilled and killers have no way of beating them (which is provably false), but that doesn't take into account the majority of players who are running solo or in duos
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I said, I dont have a problem with SWF.
I have a problem with SWF, when survivor abuse it.(tryhard)
And I hate nurse after some time.
Only nurse in high rank is kinda boring.
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