Question for the Devs concerning licensing of non-humanoid killers (Xenomorph/Android from Alien)
I keep getting told a non-humanoid killer wouldn't 'fit' into dead by daylight. I completely disagree and think this variety in killer would be an exciting change and would fit perfectly well. Also attracting a wave of new players.
My question is: Do you think a non-humanoid killer has a place in dbd? Have you looked at non-humanoid killers at all?
We talk about dbd being a video game of horror movies.
There is one major horror movie series missing. Probably one of the most famous. Where is Alien? You must have considered this license, but is there any reason why this doesn't exist in the game already?
I'm curious as to what stance the Devs have on pursuing the licenses of non humanoid killers such as the Xenomorph or Android from the Alien Franchise.
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A long time ago, they said they just didn't want to have to create a ######### ton of new animations and other stuff for every body type in existence. Humanoid-only allows for some shortcuts.
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I think they'd seem pretty out of place honestly. And the devs did say they're not doing inhuman killers
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I'm just wondering whether they would go crazy and make an exception if they did secure a massive license like Alien.
Could it be something they're thinking about until they are more capable of creating it and working the idea to its potential. Or could it be an idea thrown out completely because it doesn't fit dbd.
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I would like the alien but, I think Peanits, said that it would just not fit in the game.
It wouldn't fit in the maps and other killers wouldn't fit on the Nostromo.
I remember him saying something like this
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I'm sure they got a gigantic list of licenses they'd like to have as Killers.
But they also really like their established lore.
It's probably that, what Orion said or a combination.
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Why would they go to extreme lengths to get rights to it if they've already addressed not wanting to do it in the first place.
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I mean the entity pulls towards it so, it doesn't need to be a spaceship map. Maybe a crashed spaceship in a forest or something instead.
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A Xenomorph is actually a humanoid (at least for the purposes of animations). They've got big ol' heads, but they walk upright on two legs and have two arms sticking out to the side. They might be a bit slouched, but so is the hag. Animations wouldn't really be a limiting factor for a Xenomorph.
The bigger issue would be how they fit thematically. So far all of the killers have been human. Regular people that were taken by the Entity. It's not too terribly out of place to see any of the current killers running around in the existing maps. Having an actual alien running around a hospital, a preschool, or the streets of Haddonfield is a different story. They might not look out of place on a spaceship, but it would be a little weird seeing them down here.
On the flip side, it would also look pretty weird to have the Trapper or the Nurse running around the USCSS Nostromo.
Basically it's possible to make it work, it's more a matter of fitting with the theme of the game.
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It changed a lot in the mean time, so there might be hope.
Honestly I would freak out if they put a xenomorph into the game.
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See? 😃
I was right :)
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As much as I'd like to see it I doubt it'll happen
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So it's possible 😀.
Take that all you doubters.
It can fit, just ask Matt *crosses fingers*
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It can be done but doesn't fit well, that's what Peanits said
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The point is that it DOESN'T fit.
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Nobody's doubting that it's possible, it's just not something the devs want to do.
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I'd rather see the devs break their "no doll or child killers" rule so we can get Chucky. He'd take a bit of work but man oh man would he be amazing.
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I think if they bind the dbd lore with alien lore it would make sense however it might look odd.
I know I as well as many others would be buying everything to do with anything like this.
I hope it's something the powerful dbd people acknowledge because it would be a insane to have a full horror cast of killers to choose from.
Thanks for the quick reply too.
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I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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To be fair, Xenomorph could think the Entity is a Queen. Xeno could also use survivors as egg hosts, like it can do in the movies.
I don’t think map setting matters. We’ve seen Xenomorphs attack settlements and we play a game where Michael Myers can walk around the Saw plant. Also getting the Nostromo map expecting Alien and running into Michael or Ghostface would be terrifying.
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I actually have a fully flesh out non-human killer, with perks, lore, add-ons and everything. Survivor is like 75% done. I'd like to share it someday but IDK with the way people around here react to "new ideas", as my killer has some things no other killer has. Killer would also likely be stronger than Nurse but significantly harder to play at the same time, and there are some hard counters built in to allow fair counter play for survivors.
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I'm being optimistic, they have the technology. I guess only time will tell. I wouldn't be complaining if it ever happened.
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Xenomorphs and androids are already humanoids.
What about a lion-spider-stingray monster? That fits your intention better @AshleyWB
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Adding Xenomorph's like adding a vicious animal.
Oh, i should mention i'm not against things like that, @AshleyWB
All i've said was simply from the fact that they were just against the idea last time they talked about it.
If they add Alien, Wendigo's or whatever, i wouldn't be against that decision.
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Spoilers to Alien movies below!!!
So in the movies the first Alien was made when an Engineer (people who created earth) was infected with an Alien parasite. The Alien was born and it spread
Technically the entity could release the parasite into a realm and cause an infection to someone thus creating a Xenomorph and fitting completey with both the game and the movies lore.
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I'm curious as to what you've come up with. Every idea is a good idea. You seem really excited about yours so it must be really good. Get it right and I'm sure a few of us would love to see your idea chapter.
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All of the predator movies take place on earth. I could actually see the entity plucking a predator for it's "ultimate hunt"
ohhh.... Thermal vision, and a shoulder cannon.
And a suicide animation, for when all 4 survivors escape, he explodes. just like that killer player is doing.
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I'd love to kill with the PREDATOR...
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"bUt ThE dEvS sAiD" is such a poor argument because the devs have constantly retconned things they've said for the better of the game. I'd love to see Alien!
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alien would be awesome, we don't have to get a spaceship like Nostromo though , we could get an indoor map like hadleys hope
also i think alien would fit pretty well with the lore because the aliens don't always straight up kill people, they try to use them as hosts (especially when they aren't a threat)
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There are 2 major hurdles to my idea though. First is animations, since non-human animations are more resource heavy in terms of development. Second is... well I don't want to say but it would require a TON of new coding for it to work. It's something that doesn't exist in the game, and to put it in would also take a lot of development resources. In fact they would need to hire some new coders just for this thing. It's a very specific type of programming needed that I'm pretty sure BHVR has no one that does this. It's a norm for most other games though, I'll let you figure it out.
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To be fair an ancient babylonian priestess roaming around a modern pre-school or a mad doctor in a corn field are quite out of place, I don't think anyone would complain about that.
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Quick Question(s). The first Alien Vs Predator movie was set in Antarctica. The killers would fit on a map based around the first Predators Vs Aliens movie, right? Would the map have to be a ship because you would need to license predator stuff too for a map that is based of the Alien Vs Predator movie? Would a Xenomorph really not fit in the other maps? I feel like it might look odd at first, but it would work... especially if the alien map was based off of Aliens Vs Predators... the killers would fit into a map like that better than they would a space ship map... Idk... would any of what I just said, work?
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An alien in a corn field fits perfectly.
I feel like the other killers on a spaceship would be more out of place than an alien on most of the maps. Hell, xenomorphs worked in ancient temples in the AvP series.
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The only reason i say Alien wouldnt be allowed in DBD is because it as a killer would be too good. LOL
But knowing the devs they would make it slow as ######### and weak...
(example)
Aliens are stealthy , can climb on walls/ceilings, can sprint at really fast speed , literally can insta kill you from behind/ with it ranged whip tail attack/pin you down and "tongue" your head.
I mean look at the gameplay from the last AvP game that came out around 2009?2010?
https://youtu.be/FvjLlhK3pvk?t=30
It's a really awesome franchise I'd like to see in DBD but a better more balanced out idea would be Predator.
Predator could be a worthy addition to the ranged killers and has a lot it can use.
Huge net, Shoulder Canon, Disc Blades, Invis, Thermal Vision, Voice Mimicry, etc
But anyways as long as it can be rigged to a model thats close to a humans shape it can be added into the game.
P.S you also forgot about Chucky
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I went to the hospital a few weeks ago and as I sat in the waiting room a Clown ran past chucking bottles at a small Asian lady.
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Mad Doctor in a cornfield seems pretty legit honestly. Though, lets look at it this way:
The Entity takes people it can control and people it can feed off of. Xenomorphs don't feel fear or have actual emotions. The only ones that do display that trait are hive queens and they aren't actually very mobile. Warrior Xenos and Praetorian Xenos are effectively mindless. The Entity needs to have some sort of emotional component to influence a person to kill on its behalf. So it wouldn't take a creature that it can't control.
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Alien has tons of environments. You can easily make one which fits into the game.
There's a prison, spaceship, labs, alien planet, Antarctica, crash sites, wheat fields, and others I can't remember.
We do have current maps which hold similarities to a potential alien map.
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As far as lore goes, it could be like alien vs predator requiem. All the xenomorphs in that movie we're in a small town.
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He said it wouldn't fit thematically, which is kinda the argument I was making.
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Plus if we want a new game mode. A Xenomorph could be a killer which thrives in that game mode.
Imagine a battle royale where it's 1 Xenomorph Vs 100 survivors or something. Would be fun.
Just a basic example, I feel they could do a lot with an Alien license.
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Could we stop asking for Xenomorphs to be put into the game? They won't fit, they are the "perfect lifeform", Superhuman strength, Amazing sense of smell, Intelligent, Agile, can climb on any surface ect...
They wouldn't think of the Entity as a queen, they are smarter than that and could sense that something is wrong, the only thing they care about is reproducing and creating hives, they won't bother sacrificing and you can't force them to.
I know that the later Alien movies really dumbed them down and made them seem like generic dumb monsters but that's not what they are, they wouldn't get stopped by anything, even less a wooden pallet.
And we also know what happens to fast agile killers in this game, just look at Legion and how "unfun" they are, according to you guys.
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Seems like someone thinks they can downvote and not read or understand anything that's been said.
An Alien Chapter could work. If you think it doesn't fit whatsoever then why comment at all, if you read you can understand why it can fit. You just hate the idea because you can.
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No one wants Alien in this game man. It wouldn't seem right. It just doesn't work.
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Couldn't disagree more.
I think you as well as many others think hating on other ideas makes you seem to know best.
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You can't look at people giving valid reasons for why it wouldn't fit and then just act like they missed something. A xenomorph would be cool but it really doesn't work in DbD for a number of reasons.
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"A Xenomorph doesn't fit" isn't a valid reason when many comments here explain why it can and would fit if the license was acquired.
You just refuse to accept something which other people want is possible.
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Your unwilling to consider that maybe your idea just wouldn't work. Xenomorphs are essentially intelligent animals. They're feral and not something the entity could control through its emotions like it does for other killers. Beyond that it'd honestly be a huge disservice to the xenomorphs abilities to have it struggle to catch a running survivor and get stunned by a small plank of wood.
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You could have a baby Xenomorph which doesn't have overpowering strength and if it thinks the entity created it, it obeys it. Happens in the recent alien movie when the android breeds the alien. Lorewise it fits.
Could eventually grow and develop to be feral and really advanced but there are always ideas steaming from ideas.
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Also if an Alien Chapter did happen, you could have an android (from one of the movies) as survivor. Prestige for this survivor could be covered in white liquid as their blood is white. Would be cool.
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Last I checked, Xenomorphs grow to full size in a matter of hours so no, a baby wouldn't really fit. A baby xenomorph is also a much less interesting concept for a killer than an adult one.
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