Camping and tunneling is a valid tactical move
It has come up many times !! First as a survivor you suppose to use your intelligence and to be stealthy! Which is why you have perks, items , and add ons to help . You not suppose to be in plain sight out running the killer at every turn and single handedly turning the round to the survivors!! Second it is 4 vs 1 !! You are to work as a team !! And again using your intelligence and team mates you can save your team mate by working together !! So why this keeps coming up is beyond me !!!
Comments
-
Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.
5 -
Total noob to the lingo, but what exactly is tunneling?
1 -
Tunneling is a term made up to describe when killers get "tunnel vision" focusing on one survivor and ignoring most other things going on around them.Darkdeadset said:Total noob to the lingo, but what exactly is tunneling?
2 -
Lol that’s their whole excuse for being a trashy killer and having to resort to camping all because someone “looped” them but if they want it to be a tactic to camp and tunnel then don’t ######### when the survivors start being what they call “toxic”Sinesters said:Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.
3 -
So pallet looping, flash light, insta heals, and insta repairs are all valid to right5
-
Water is wet,
The sky is light blue,
This topic again?
Thread 252 .3 -
@Raccoon said:
Water is wet,
The sky is light blue,
This topic again?
Thread 252 .3 -
@Sinesters said:
Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.But this is where intelligence comes in play , most survivors are going to have a running plan !! So as the killer you have be aware of your surroundings and predict what the survivor is going to do . Then comes time management. If you are chasing one survivor for 1 minute or longer the other survivors are doing gens , so you have to let that survivor go for moment or they others going to exit the level fairly quickly!
And as survivor you have 3 other people to help if you are hooked or if another is hooked . They are many perks to help with this for example borrowed time! There are also running perks and Dwight also have action speed perks that help speed up the process. But again if the killer is camping you have to work as team to unhook the survivor
2 -
I can see that tunneling and camping have their place, but in the same sense, so do looping and flashlights but the problem is, looping is to strong. It's true that these are efficient ways to play and I don't hate killers for using these tactics but it wouldn't be fair to then, turn around and rage at survivors for looping and blinding you any chance they get. Sure, these are valid tactics, but that doesn't make them any less annoying or, in some cases, overpowered, like looping, because looping can't be punished in the same sense that camping can. As for tunneling, some killers don't have anything to help them in a chase and rely on it to have a good shot unless they have Ruin, and that's incredibly unreliable. I won't deny that looping and flashlights are currently too strong and need to be fixed, but it's not the survivor's fault they work as well as they do. That lies with the developers.
0 -
So here's a situation that happened yesterday. I was Freddy. Caught a survivor, they DC. Another survivor is nearby, so I down them and put them in the basement. The other two remaining survivors are both working on the gen above the basement, so I put both to sleep and chase one. They get away, but the other one is clearly working their way back toward the basement. They jump down and unhook the person on the hook, who I put to sleep again. I begin to chase after both (they're running together) and suddenly the one who had been hooked DCs. The other two go down really quick after that.
After the game, the second person to DC (basement buddy) messages with quite the salt about being camped and tunneled. This went on for some time, as I tried to explain that it wasn't either, really. So, is a killer supposed to ignore the whole team when someone is on the hook? No. I don't enjoy camping or tunneling, and from my point-of-view, neither happened at all. What do you think?
1 -
@KING_DEDE said:
So pallet looping, flash light, insta heals, and insta repairs are all valid to rightAgain intelligence comes into play which you clearly are not using ! As survivor you are not faster than the killer . So again as I stated to another , most survivors are going to have a running plan to run towards pallets and it is your job as the killer to do time management. And for one reason or another the survivor running plan can be very good and you have to let them go! Sure they can stay in one area but they leave their team in a spot ! And every survivor has use the tool box and brand new part , med kits . So working as a team gives you the win !
1 -
@lyric said:
Sinesters said:Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.
Lol that’s their whole excuse for being a trashy killer and having to resort to camping all because someone “looped” them but if they want it to be a tactic to camp and tunnel then don’t ######### when the survivors start being what they call “toxic”
Indeed name calling is uncool for tactics that people don’t like or couldnt solve at the time ! I have had this happen many times . But again as a survivor you suppose work as a team . And as stated other times as a survivor you not suppose to be at every turn out running the killer . You suppose to use your intelligence and be in the shadows !
1 -
I totally agree with being stealthy but the only problem with that is now you don’t PIP up if you stay stealthy, I repaired three generators and saved one off the hook Along with cleansing no one escapes death totem And still safety with 22,000 points because I didn’t get chased , So in a sense we are being forced to be toxic to rank up because you almost have to initiate a chase of some sort for evader, Sorry if this is jumbled I’m doing speech text while driving.Aoiyama said:@lyric said:
Sinesters said:Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.
Lol that’s their whole excuse for being a trashy killer and having to resort to camping all because someone “looped” them but if they want it to be a tactic to camp and tunnel then don’t ######### when the survivors start being what they call “toxic”
Indeed name calling is uncool for tactics that people don’t like or couldnt solve at the time ! I have had this happen many times . But again as a survivor you suppose work as a team . And as stated other times as a survivor you not suppose to be at every turn out running the killer . You suppose to use your intelligence and be in the shadows !
1 -
Regarding Tunneling - Wither or not I do so depends on the situation. If the game is early and I'm not feeling generator pressure, I'd rather go after the other guy as I'm often running BBQ and Chili and want the tokens. If the guy does it right under my nose, I'll smack the guy who got unhooked to punish the hook farm (you lose benevolence if the guy you rescued is down in less than 10 seconds). If by returning to the hook I see the wounded guy making a break for it but don't see the guy who did the rescue, then I'm naturally going to tunnel as I'd rather keep my momentum than lose time looking for somebody. Most people who get tunneled are usually tunneled due to the actions of the survivors, not by a conscious decision on my part.
Regarding Camping - Not camping lets me pull 3 people off gens if I have somebody to chase. However, I refuse to be treated by an ######### and will not take bait I have no chance of catching. You want to pull me from the hook? Then risk your skin instead of standing behind a pallet 30 meters away. Is the gate open? Then you're going to have to get friends to help because I don't have generators to defend at that point. I'm a person, not an AI. I will move when I feel it's in MY best interest to do so, not yours. You are my adversary, I am not here to win popularity contests, I'm here to destroy you just as it's your job to stop me by any means necessary.
people need to stop living by imaginary rules and play to win - or go play something else.
2 -
You can get evaded by being nearby the killer. And the argument can fully be flipped too. I had a game of hillbilly against a SWF with a bunch of legacies. The map was fractured cowshed, so 3 big looping spots. I didn't camp or tunnel at ALL and managed to get 3 of them by the end of the fairly short game. No camping, no tunneling. And I didn't pip. Because I immediately left the hook, I wasnt slowing progress, so my gate keeper was #########, because I let them go after I hooked them they healed so my malicious was #########, and because I would see two at a time and go after the tougher target, chases were longer, evader was #########. I didn't pip from a stellar performance in a very tough game, when it would've been significantly easier to pip if I had just camped and tunneled.lyric said:
I totally agree with being stealthy but the only problem with that is now you don’t PIP up if you stay stealthy, I repaired three generators and saved one off the hook Along with cleansing no one escapes death totem And still safety with 22,000 points because I didn’t get chased , So in a sense we are being forced to be toxic to rank up because you almost have to initiate a chase of some sort for evader, Sorry if this is jumbled I’m doing speech text while driving.Aoiyama said:@lyric said:
Sinesters said:Don't you hate when a survivor destroys your fun of the game by looping? same way the survivors feels when he gets camped and tunnel i mean.
Lol that’s their whole excuse for being a trashy killer and having to resort to camping all because someone “looped” them but if they want it to be a tactic to camp and tunnel then don’t ######### when the survivors start being what they call “toxic”
Indeed name calling is uncool for tactics that people don’t like or couldnt solve at the time ! I have had this happen many times . But again as a survivor you suppose work as a team . And as stated other times as a survivor you not suppose to be at every turn out running the killer . You suppose to use your intelligence and be in the shadows !
1 -
Listen, as someone who loves killers but plays a good amount of survivors, i get both sides, but gotta be honest, the community of survivors tend to be a bit sticky on this issue. Yes camping happens, and that is understandable. Here is a question, if you see two people and 1 is injured, who are you gonna chase? probably the injured one, doesn't matter if you just hooked them. that's not tunneling, its just common sense, and I get people who moan about tunneling from that all day. Camping as well, with BBQ and chili being so big on killers, if you hook a survivor and no-one pops up, of course you'll not leave the hook, that would be dumb. and unless you know you can get close to a survivor and start a chase with them soon, its best to stay at least within the edge of heartbeat range of hooked survivors, since most people will try and save them. It ultimately comes down to this, this game is about using what you have to either escape as soon as possible or kill as many as possible, and if camping or tunneling helps you achieve that, then camp and tunnel away my friends
2 -
Also, its not like they made a perk SPECIFICALLY to counter 'Camping' Cough Borrowed time Cough
0 -
@lyric said:
Sorry if this is jumbled I’m doing speech text while driving.Really? C'mon bro put the phone down and focus on the road. I've had 2 fatal school bus crashes in my state this month, you could end up killing someone.
0 -
Dude it’s all Bluetooth relax lol all voice command and is not endangering anyone, I read the thread and replied on my way to get a drink for break , I have to use voice command because I’m union mechanic and for safety the company requires it in the vehicle if I’m performing work in case they need to contact me on the roadthesuicidefox said:@lyric said:
Sorry if this is jumbled I’m doing speech text while driving.Really? C'mon bro put the phone down and focus on the road. I've had 2 fatal school bus crashes in my state this month, you could end up killing someone.
0 -
It's not really a solid strategy, but it's more like the only strategy which killers can use to have some control in the game.0
-
That’s why I always use it! My perk loadout on survivor is borrowed time, we’ll make it, self care, stake out so I don’t run what people would consider toxic perks but I still get called toxic by killers for some reason. My main focus is to repair gens and as soon as someone goes down I get over there safely unhook and speed heal so the killer gives up half way coming back to tunnel and goes for another survivorDarckshado9 said:Also, its not like they made a perk SPECIFICALLY to counter 'Camping' Cough Borrowed time Cough
0 -
camping is legit0
