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About the Ghost’s mori and toxic killers spamming moris
I think it would be wise if killing a survivor was just a one time button press with the release of Ghostface.
I love the mori and think it’s hilarious, but if moris can still be spammed and abused, his will definitely be abused by toxic killers and I think it would be highly inappropriate considering how the death animation starts (and if it’s Stu or Billy, then GF is a canonical #########, which would be in very poor taste for killers to “reenact”.)
Whatever your feelings on teabags, there would be a clear cut difference between those and what this would be.
Tldr; moris should be a one time button press, not an action with charge up.
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But there is a tactical reason to stop a Mori, what if you see another survivor as you start to mori someone and you want to chase him instead. If they make it a one time use crouching more the once then every let's say every 5 seconds
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I think it’s reasonable to believe that you should commit to a mori.
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If Killers want flashlights to break after clicking them too fast, why not eliminate mori spam too? It would be a fair trade, don't you think?
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True. I would have no problems with that trade and it would be perfectly fair.
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Or just change the beginning if people are really going to get triggered by pointless stuff like that?
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Who cares if a killer spams their mori. Let them waste time. It is the same if the killer camps and hits you on the hook. I will struggle until the end. Let them waste time.
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Other people might want to just be able to end the game without being forced to wait a hundred years or DC. If the Killer is willing to mori spam one person for a long time, they likely don't care if it is at the expense of their performance.
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Okay so,
1 - bm wise, it's not that bad.
2 - If you think it's so bad that a killer can "look like" they're doing dirty, I'd just like to remind you that you're playing a game where you murder and sacrafice people.
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Maybe if you spam it more than 3 times within a set time frame it auto goes into the animation, say 30 seconds? that way it doesnt prolong the timethat much and it can be cancelled for the legit reasons others have stated.
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It shouldn’t be able to be canceled though. There is absolutely no good reason why it should be canceled or why it shouldn’t be a one time button press.
When you’re killing someone, you are definitely putting them out of the game. The trade off SHOULD be that you are committing 10-15 seconds to it while the other survivors could be making progress.
Spamming is annoying and toxic, and in the case of the Ghost - who WILL be prime real estate for toxic killers unfortunately - spamming is both of those things and very disrespectful and distasteful to boot.
1 - bm wise, bm shouldn’t be tolerated since at best it’s unsportsmanlike and at worst it’s pure toxicity. Bm wise, tea bags in comparison are rather goofy and ridiculous compared to simulating Deliverance. It’s wholly unnecessary to put it mildly.
2 - We’re all playing a game that’s clearly in the slasher horror wheelhouse. Murders and blood curdling screams are to be expected and even wanted. ######### is not part of it, nor should it be trivialized as such.
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@pemberley and so there is no reason for survs to be able to do toxic actions. It's no valid argument to only be against one of both. I'm fine with getting rid of the mori spam if they do the same for survs. Otherwise this send a wrong message to everyone
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Literally nowhere in my posts did I suggest survivor toxicity should be okay. In fact, I agreed with @NurseMainBTW that flashlight clicking should be eliminated along with mori spams.
Toxicity on both sides should be discouraged and eliminated.
However, this particular thread is addressing the toxicity of mori spams. Just because survivors act like jerks does not justify mori spams, or what spamming the Ghost’s mori would entail.
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There was a video that showed a clown spamming a mori to prevent a downed survivor from leaving the exit gate at EGC. The survivor can't move, recover, won't be picked up, etc.
In my opinion, it's exploitative. 4 minutes of cheesed BM (where the survivor can't so much as move) is excessive.
IMO, killers BMing is not normally a big deal, but the mori spam circumvents key mechanics.
flashlight clicking should be eliminated along with mori spams.
Can we affirm that only macro clicking be penalized? I like clicking at teammates, and it already drains the battery.
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There are instances where it's beneficial.
Say it's the second to last survivor, you just start it and see the other running and you know they are heading towards where the hatch is, do you mori or leave them slugged to chase the other?
I am sure there are more scenarios where it's legit to do.
While I also hate mori spamming and other things in the game I dislike changes that completely remove options and rather they change things to make them not as worthile.
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I agree with Orti to an extent where cancelling a mori can be used to fake out or mind game survivors. I've had quite a few games where I've faked mori'ing a survivor and another survivor hiding made a run for it or jumped out of a locker and that secured me another kill. I'm against completely disabling mori cancelling as it's taking away an opportunity from the killer even if it's a rare moment.
I'm against the removal of the charge meter for the mori for two reasons. It would remove the ability to mind game as killer with Mori and it would cause some potential accidental misclicks. Personally I've had a game where I lost a lot of momentum because I mori'd a survivor when I meant to lunge at another survivor healing them. I'd imagine that would be a bit more common if instead of charging a meter it was an immediate button press.
However I'd agree that it shouldn't be spammable. Although the farthest I'd go on that is after 3-5 consecutive cancelled moris on a survivor the option will be grayed out for something like 20 seconds. Mostly for situations where a survivor is held into place. There's no risk or counterplay to the survivor being slugged like that. You could argue that the killer can easily execute the survivor but if they're spamming mori their goal isn't to kill the survivor. It's to drag out the end of their game. If the killer knows the survivor could eventually start crawling after a certain amount of moris eventually they'll have to finish the survivor off. Knowing we have EGC specifically to prevent stalling end game I'd feel like a hypocrite if I didn't support some sort of change to mori specifically for this scenario.
tl;dr - I'm against removal of charge bar but I support a cooldown on mori to prevent spam and having a survivors game dragged out.
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"but if X gets changed then so should Y"
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