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Brutal Strength Buff when
Now i know someone is gonna be like but it can kick gens faster its not really that good even with that.
So what im proposing is
Destroy dropped Pallets and damage Generators 15/25/35 % faster.
As of now brutal really does not feel like you are breaking pallets that fast honestly you kick gens faster than you break a pallet thats kinda not good.
So lets dive into why brutal was nerfed back in the old days and why i think this nerf was a little to harsh
Old:
Tier 1 (20%): 2.4s
Tier 2 (30%): 2.1s
Tier 3 (40%): 1.8s
Current
10%
15%
20%
My idea
15%
25%
35%
Now as you can see old brutal use to be 40% faster at kicking a pallet and at the moment the nerf still hurts brutal as its outclassed by Enduring and Spirit Fury. The Argument was the survivors didnt have counterplay to the perk okay fair enough drop it to 30% it would have been rather reasonable but i feel the devs jumped the gun and hit the perk pretty harshly.
Overall i feel like giving Brutal a little buff would not hurt it as in the current meta its simply outclassed by Enduring and Spirit Fury i get that there may still be people afraid to buff it but i think in the current meta it should be fine as even with this buff spirit fury and enduring is just better but it gives more variety to the builds.
EDIT Also as a side note Brutal will no longer stack with Fire Up this way so there is some type of counter play for survivors if my brutal change was to go into effect
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Fire up + Brutal Strength there you go
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Yeah but at the same time fire up's values are kinda a joke and at that point its a waste to even run it when enduring and spirit fury just outclass the combination
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Wow I didn't see this when I posted my topic lol. Nice idea.
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Funny enough i just got done reading your post XD
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Enduring & Spirit Fury are not that good honestly. Even if you are trying to get hit with pallets it is rare for Spirit Fury to proc more than once in a trial. I'd take Brutal Strength by itself over both those perks. At least you get value out of it each and every pallet.
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Yeah but to an extent brutal is just bad its not as good as it use to be which at one point it was very good but again i of course understand there are fewer pallets but i also understand pallet cities still exist but if im being honest id rather take the 2 pallets down and break one for free than to kick the pallets over and over again this change is trying to bring it back into variety while also staying true to what it was suppose to do.
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Just use a wasted perk slot with values that are very bad when i could just use enduring and spirit fury and its 10x better.
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You are missing the point of the post its pointing out that brutal is not good and that even with fire up its still bad as fire up is bad its also pointing out the lack of variety that there is right now when enduring and spirit fury just hold the crown each perk is better than fire up each perk is also better than brutal.
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Here's my idea: Keep brutal strength as it is but add on that brutal strength makes gens regress 50 percent faster then what they do without brutal strength.
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I'd like Brutal Strength to make gens regress 50% faster as an added affect rather than increasing the pallet break more. Although it could probably get both and would still not be OP.
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Wraith + [ "Shadow Dance" - Blood ] + [ "Shadow Dance" - White ] = While stealth it's probably less than quarter of a second to destroy pallets and you can vault as fast if not faster than Survivors.
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You do realise why the values of Brutal Strength were changed correct? It still breaks the pallet at the exact same speed it did before. The natural pallet break speed was increased so Brutal Strength was decreased to fit with the new break times. Brutal Strength was never nerfed. It still breaks pallets at the same speed now as it did before. Which means, Brutal Strength has always been weak. In fact, it's better now as there are less pallets on the maps. Brutal Strength was weaker before than it is now. But I do agree it needs a buff to be comparable to Enduring and Spirit Fury.
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Did you forget that dev already buff default pallet-breaking speed to all killers from 3 sec to 2.6 sec in the same "Brutal Strength nerf" patch?
Pallet Breaking Times: <v1.6.3 = 3.0s v1.7 = 2.6s Brutal Stengh Increases: <v1.6.3 = 20%/30%/40% v1.7 = 10%/15%/20% Actual Times with Brutal Strength <v1.6.3 = 2.4s /2.1s /1.8s v1.7 = 2.34s/2.21s/2.08s
If Brutal Strength can destroy pallets 35% faster, it will be even faster than the old version.
default pallet-breaking speed/15%/25%/35% = 2.6s/2.21s/1.95s/1.69s
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this is kinda wired cause im using it and feels worthy with bamboozle
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Sooo you want OG BS back, essentially
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I have also seen suggestions where one stomp breaks the pallet.
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It was nerf, the devs made it slightly slower then what it did before even after the basekit of destroying pallets was increased for whatever reason.
It doesn't equal the old brutal strength with the base kicking of pallets in other words
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That's two perks for something that won't really make a difference in the game, especially early game due to how Fire Up works! :)
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I will take this
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If you chase survivors mindlessly you wont see the difference as they get to next pallet, but if you zone them by kicking the pallet from right side you will notice the power of BS.
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