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Legion Criticisms make absolutely no sense.
He gets a free hit? HAG LITERALLY gets a free hit when her trap is set off. Teleport, move forward for about a quarter of a second, and smack. And legion who now wears 100lbs ankle weights when he “sprints” take quite a while to catch up to who he wants to hit, then he’s gotta run to catch the second person and that can take 10+ seconds. Yet I see absolutely no one complaining about Hag. You know why? Because it’s bias, and bias never makes any sense.
Hag is mislabeled as intermediate, when she should be labeled as easy, she’s literally a better version of trapper. Can set traps whenever, teleports, and a really good hag completely erases the ability to loop. So legion’s “wall hacks” don’t have an iridescent shard in a campfire’s chance of being anywhere near as viable as a cross map teleport with 10 quickly set traps that have literally no trigger or setting cooldowns.
Hag doesn’t need a nerf, she’s balanced, and lets be honest, not even a moonwalking legion could dish out the fury a hag could, I’d argue that a good hag is a lot harder than a good nurse because unlike nurse, hag can literally pinball around and go on a slugging spree, I do it all the time. No one complains. No salty messages, nothing. Nurse still takes time to get around due to blink fatigue. And hag’s traps point you in the direction of your target, even if they’ve already broken line of sight
Legion on the other hand, looks like a concept killer than a real playable one in comparison. Which is why the those of you saying his kit would be unfair if he got his vaulting speed back, truly confuse me.
You can put up with hag, a killer still incredibly strong without any addons, but you can’t endure what is essentially now just an M1 cookie cutter killer? Deep wound is fine where it is for me because I never used it to try and down anyone, but his speed is what makes him unique, and I still stand by what I said. He needs that sense of speed back again to be fun. Literally everything else could stay the same and I’d be fine, but his feral frenzy vault speed needs to be restored.
Can we we just come together and acknowledge that fact for a moment?
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For the majority of people on the forums not drowning themself in the shower by accident is an intellectual accomplishment on par with winning a nobel prize for everyone else
In less complicated terms:
You = correct
People complaining about legion = wrong
Majority of people = dum dum != you
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Three downvotes already? And only one response? I’m definitely being downvoted by alt accounts. Any of those three wanna contribute to the conversation and tell me why I’m wrong? Or are you just upset because you know I’m right?
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Wraith is a better Legion.
Change my mind.
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I take pride in my downvotes, an unpopular opinion means I’ve got different ideas from everywhere else, and no progress can be made without disagreements.
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Every killer is a better legion, because they have an actually useful power. Even leather face.
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Yes, he is.
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Or people just come in, downvote, don't care about replying and leave.
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Shouldn’t have made an account on the forums then if they don’t want to contribute anything. You don’t be need account to read the forums.
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5 downvotes and still no one to voice their disagreements. Yet you still complain, this is why no one listens to you. You know who you are. Really take a step back and think about that. The more people contribute, the more progress is made.
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If I have one complaint about Legion, it's that his power is biased against the better players. You run up on a group on a gen, and you're going to land your first hit on the biggest potato in the group. After that you're going up the food chain landing deep wounds until you're finally in a full chase with whoever managed to run the farthest. Meanwhile the others waddle back to the gen to mend and then go back to business as usual.
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They can actually do gens and it halts their deep wounds timer. So they can literally continue working the moment you leave. Like I said, hag is the one that is ironically not complained about.
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Um Hag doesn't get "Free Hits." she has to predict your path, and teleport to it within a second to get a hit. And even then it's not guranteed due to the weird hitting system in the game. (I can't count how many hits I miss because she decided not reach out and smack the survivor, and instead short smacks air.)
A good hag understands that her trap can be used in more then one way.
tracking: I don't teleport to all of my traps, a lot of times just knowing a trap was set off gives me the information for what I need to do next.
Loop breaking: This takes more skill then people give it credit for. Knowing where to place a trap to break a loop so it doesn't get tripped to early, and isn't abusable by the survivors, or erasable by flashlights. Especially given how Hag traps HATE being placed next to a solid object (often the option doesn't even exist, and you have to pixel hunt for the right place, not great to do in the middle of a chase)
Flick traps: These are traps that hags usualy wont teleport to. They are there to slow someone trying to reach the next loop down, and give her a hit. They operate under the hag traps ability to force a survivor to look at it and change running direction. In order to use these right, they have to be placed OFF a run path, with it's AOE covering the path the survivor is predicted to run. If a survivor runs right over a flick trap, it will not slow them at all. it HAS to be to the side.
Run path traps: These are placed where run paths converge, and usualy have to be hidden in some way. (ie: in the middle of a copse of trees that leaves a few ways to run through it, behind a rock that blocks sight of it from the predicted direction of the victim) And are there for a Hag to teleport to and make up distance.
Wild Traps: These are versions of run path traps. They are almost only used on maps that have large areas with reduced vision (cornfields are the most common) They can be a waste of a trap if you don't know what you are doing, and they can be the most productive traps you place if you know your stuff. They are placed out in the middle of cornfields, ect to catch people trying to escape through the area, slip by you, or move from generator to generator.
The Queen is many things. But she is not "Easy." Don't ever insult her like that again. It takes a lot of time and knowledge to play her at a high skill level. Her 75% kill rate comes from lower ranks who just run to unhook, with 0 thoughts of traps, and where you will get 3 people unhooking, leaving 0 people doing gens. At higher skill levels, you have to worry about distractors prepopping your traps, and leading you away, popping your traps IN THE MIDDLE OF A CHASE, so you can't teleport. If you do, you teleport to them, and lose the chase you were in. And that's not counting a myriad of other factors.
However i will state: People that complain about legion need to stop dcing and learn how to play. He was never strong.
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Sorry to tell you but shes easier to play than trapper, who has to find and set traps during the match, wasting a lot of time. Hag gets right down to business. She was my first main so you can stop thinking I don’t know what I’m talking about. No offense, I still play her today, and in my opinion, she’s the easiest to play in the roster. Only takes a few minutes to get a good handle on her.
placing most of your traps in between gens and around the center of the map is what works for me at all ranks of play. Especially with thanat
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Unfortunately, Legion will forever have a bad reputation.
He's left a bad taste on everyone's mouth.
It's like sex, he's had a small PP, but he's good at using it now, but you don't want small PP.
You know?
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i really wish we still had that lol button.
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uWu
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I definitely wouldn’t call them “free hits” anymore since you lose feral frenzy now if you miss an attack. Not to mention legion feels a lot easier to outrun with the slower frenzy speed.
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Um, just because trapper isn't designed well, doesn't make her easier. It makes her more thought out.
The trapers only weakness is how few traps he can carry, and how he has to run around the whole map to find them, and then set them. If he could collect (x) traps from lockers his viability would shoot up a chunk.
Trapper is Dead By Daylights Tachanka. In the original thought process of the game, he was probably thought to be one of the strongest killers the game would ever see. Bear traps that make people stay in place, and can be a 1 hit mechanic? Sounds awesome on paper.
In practice, it's just not as strong as they thought. not in his current state. Sure he can be strong, but he really needs some love. And we shouldn't snub him by saying things like "Hag is easier then trapper." She isn't. He needs a buff.
You are comparing Oranges and Grapefruit. They are both round, and citrus, but completely different.
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Downvoting is basically a contribute to an arguement. Just you are anonymous.
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yes but downvoting my post instead of upvoting something someone else says or providing feedback is just trashy and unhelpful.
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Maybe they downvoted the idea when there were no more comments? Why would they return tbh.
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Now I really don't get this comparison between hag and legion as hag is dependent on the survivors tripping a trap, and legion can only really use his power right when hes found a survivor.
But i do think that people overreacted about his nerf. Yes it did hurt him, but he having the increased feral frenzy time makes him deadly on small to medium maps.
Also his increased movement speed helps him end chases faster.
The only thing about him is that hitting a survivor twice is pointless as 1.) It gives them a speed boost 2.) It drains your power 3.) You can literally just end it manually and completely bypass the reasons above.
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Some people will just post something trashy and disagree without providing feedback or furthering the discussion
It promoted not having as many useless posts in your thread easier for the people that add something to the discussion to not have to read useless posts. They can say they don't agree with you without wasting a post.
With that being said I agree legion needs his speed back vaulting with him is a joke now. His addons also need a rework. Those mixtapes are played out.
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are we talking pre nerf legion or past nerf legion?
cuz i can fully understand critisism on pre nerf legion, while i dont think critisism on past nerf legion would be appropiate...
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Legion was weak before the nerf, now he's just weak in different areas, resulting in the same weak killer.
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