Monitor & Abuse is broken, particularly on Hag
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Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
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brokedownpalace said:The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.
Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
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People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
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Runiver said:
People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
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@Lowbei said:
Runiver said:People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.
So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
i mean shes “ok”, but she aint no myers.
She's easily superior to Myers in my opinion. And I have both of them P3 with all perks.
I played her the whole day, I'd arguably say she's getting really close to Billy's threatening level.9 -
@Lowbei Bud, I know you're like the resident troll and you have nowhere else to be but nowhere in my post did I suggest a nerf. I pointed out that M&A is bugged on her and for a future buff I don't think the devs took everything into consideration.
@Runiver Played well Hag is a beast. People just don't want to take the time to figure her out. With her upcoming buffs she's going to get a lot more popular.5 -
You complain about hag and not Myers?
Myers tier 1=0 Meters slowed down
Myers tier 2=8 Meters faster then hag (most of game)
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8BITLORD said:
You complain about hag and not Myers?
Myers tier 1=0 Meters slowed down
Myers tier 2=8 Meters faster then hag (most of game)
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@brokedownpalace said:
@Lowbei Bud, I know you're like the resident troll and you have nowhere else to be but nowhere in my post did I suggest a nerf. I pointed out that M&A is bugged on her and for a future buff I don't think the devs took everything into consideration.@Runiver Played well Hag is a beast. People just don't want to take the time to figure her out. With her upcoming buffs she's going to get a lot more popular.
She ain't gonna get popular still mostly because :
She has no popular streamer playing her with results.
She's still a slowplay.
She's still behind a semi-paywall.
She's not "super cool looking" Myers.In any case, she's still my only main with Billy at this point, even tho I play nearly all killers at a rather competitive level (even tho most of them fail at being effective)
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@Runiver I mean I think she's one of the cooler looking killers. She creeps me out. Great design.0
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@RemoveSWF said:
Hag is a joke. Anybody who says otherwise is just being a hipster."Good Hag" is a meme and nothing more.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1435699849
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1435700099
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1435111148My only non-double pip for the day
he took hatch too early for me to get Iri Lightbringer.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1435482187Keep playing LF, I suppose, kek.
EDIT : I'll add some more to show how quick you can climb ranks with her :
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1430292406
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1430275493
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@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
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@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.2 -
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.How so may I ask?
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Seriously, if M&A is bugged with her, it’s a bug and needs to be fixed. However, there is no issue with the changes. Bring Urban Evasion if you’re that scared of Hag.1
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@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.How so may I ask?
You usually trap Juking spots, not gens. As Hag, you want to teleport during CHases to get free hits. People using UE out of chases actually help you not to trigger the trap and letting them for when they're useful : when someone runs into it while chased.
UE can eventually help someone to unhook faster, eventually, and get away from the hook faster. Will still be a 16 meters terror radius with a (soon to come) 40 meters range to teleport, doubled by a possible MYC, which can be decently hard to deal with.
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@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.How so may I ask?
You usually trap Juking spots, not gens. As Hag, you want to teleport during CHases to get free hits. People using UE out of chases actually help you not to trigger the trap and letting them for when they're useful : when someone runs into it while chased.
UE can eventually help someone to unhook faster, eventually, and get away from the hook faster. Will still be a 16 meters terror radius with a (soon to come) 40 meters range to teleport, doubled by a possible MYC, which can be decently hard to deal with.
yeah I should have worded it better, I actually meant that Urban Evasion is powerful when you are trying to rescue a hooked person, my bad.
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@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.How so may I ask?
You usually trap Juking spots, not gens. As Hag, you want to teleport during CHases to get free hits. People using UE out of chases actually help you not to trigger the trap and letting them for when they're useful : when someone runs into it while chased.
UE can eventually help someone to unhook faster, eventually, and get away from the hook faster. Will still be a 16 meters terror radius with a (soon to come) 40 meters range to teleport, doubled by a possible MYC, which can be decently hard to deal with.
yeah I should have worded it better, I actually meant that Urban Evasion is powerful when you are trying to rescue a hooked person, my bad.
It helps for the unhooking part, it's not quite a hardcounter tho. It's helpful, just as it should be, similarly to BT when playing against other killers, basically, or we'll make it, that are pretty decent options against her/any killer really. (BT ain't great against Hag tho due to reduced TR obviously)
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brokedownpalace said:@Lowbei Bud, I know you're like the resident troll and you have nowhere else to be but nowhere in my post did I suggest a nerf. I pointed out that M&A is bugged on her and for a future buff I don't think the devs took everything into consideration.0
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@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@Runiver said:
@IronWolf115 said:
@brokedownpalace said:
The Hag's TR is 24m normally, right? M&A would put it at 16m when not in a chase and 32m when in a chase. Just played against a Hag on Lery's. I did not hear her TR unless she was within 3m and even then it was incredibly quiet.Also, they're buffing her teleportation range to 40m yet Make Your Choice triggers within 32m. This is going to bring a new definition to camping. Might as well just DC on a small map like The Game because you'll never be out of teleportation range.
Edit: Bolded the part people seem to miss.
On the second paragraph of your post, the thing with this is that urban evasion will still be incredibly powerful against Hag so there is still going to be a large counter to her
Urban Evasion actually helps Hag a lot.
Please, feel free to use UE against my Hag anyday, I'll be VERY thankful.How so may I ask?
You usually trap Juking spots, not gens. As Hag, you want to teleport during CHases to get free hits. People using UE out of chases actually help you not to trigger the trap and letting them for when they're useful : when someone runs into it while chased.
UE can eventually help someone to unhook faster, eventually, and get away from the hook faster. Will still be a 16 meters terror radius with a (soon to come) 40 meters range to teleport, doubled by a possible MYC, which can be decently hard to deal with.
yeah I should have worded it better, I actually meant that Urban Evasion is powerful when you are trying to rescue a hooked person, my bad.
It helps for the unhooking part, it's not quite a hardcounter tho. It's helpful, just as it should be, similarly to BT when playing against other killers, basically, or we'll make it, that are pretty decent options against her/any killer really. (BT ain't great against Hag tho due to reduced TR obviously)
Agree. I'm glad we worked that out lol
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https://clips.twitch.tv/FurryGoldenGoldfishKreygasm
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Runiver said:
People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
I think every killer can be effective. Even at high ranks. Different killers allow different tactics. But since most casual players will only use what popular streamers use, they won't find out.
The problem with Hag and Trapper is, their traps can be nullified by a SWF team or someone who shadows the killer and disables the traps.
M&A seems to be bugged right now. I noticed some very inconsistent terror radius when facing killers that used it. One second you have no heartbeat. Then you have loud heartbeat + music like he's standing right next to you, then silence again.6 -
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@Runiver Yeah it was very similar to that. Thank you.0
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@Tsulan said:
Runiver said:People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.
So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
Unpopular opinion ahead:
I think every killer can be effective. Even at high ranks. Different killers allow different tactics. But since most casual players will only use what popular streamers use, they won't find out.The problem with Hag and Trapper is, their traps can be nullified by a SWF team or someone who shadows the killer and disables the traps.
M&A seems to be bugged right now. I noticed some very inconsistent terror radius when facing killers that used it. One second you have no heartbeat. Then you have loud heartbeat + music like he's standing right next to you, then silence again.
M&A isn't bugged.
They introduced "progressive" terror radius sound with the Pig/insidious patch.
So, as a killer, if you quickly walk toward your target directly, the "terror radius music" won't come out before the killer is actually REALLY close already due to that.
That's also why perks such as Unnerving presence makes you very easy to spot, and why Stake out is pretty decent in that meta because it tells you when you're in the radius as soon as you're actually in.Just equip stake out, I tried it out for a week. You'll notice it starts charging before you even hear the TR, and stops charging before the TR stops.
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Runiver said:
@Tsulan said:
Runiver said:People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.
So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
Unpopular opinion ahead:
I think every killer can be effective. Even at high ranks. Different killers allow different tactics. But since most casual players will only use what popular streamers use, they won't find out.The problem with Hag and Trapper is, their traps can be nullified by a SWF team or someone who shadows the killer and disables the traps.
M&A seems to be bugged right now. I noticed some very inconsistent terror radius when facing killers that used it. One second you have no heartbeat. Then you have loud heartbeat + music like he's standing right next to you, then silence again.
M&A isn't bugged.
They introduced "progressive" terror radius sound with the Pig/insidious patch.
So, as a killer, if you quickly walk toward your target directly, the "terror radius music" won't come out before the killer is actually REALLY close already due to that.
That's also why perks such as Unnerving presence makes you very easy to spot, and why Stake out is pretty decent in that meta because it tells you when you're in the radius as soon as you're actually in.Just equip stake out, I tried it out for a week. You'll notice it starts charging before you even hear the TR, and stops charging before the TR stops.
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The Terror Radius works weird.
M&A and TR reduction add-ons literally makes your TR smaller AND quieter.
Agitation and Distressing makes it larger AND louder.
It's pretty obvious. Then when the Radius is too large, it begins to deafen in the center.
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Yellow Flashlight + Urban Evasion + Spine Chill
Heartbeat doesn't matter. You can move around as much as you want without setting off traps, and you can destroy traps if you need to. If Hag can't teleport back to the hook then MYC is worthless because she's slow.
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Mint rag hag with MYC has always been cancer.
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I always found Rusty Shackles to be her best add on. Survivors toss pallets down thinking you don’t have a trap on one side... SUPRISE! You did, they just didn’t know so they weren’t doing the back and forth game.0
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@Runiver said:
People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
The upcoming Hag changes were actually discussed with long-standing Hag mains, just saying.
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@DocOctober said:
@Runiver said:
People will mock you for telling anything Hag has is strong.
I try to tell people that stuff for ages, and even tho I still got 9 double pip in a row today with her at rank 1, people won't believe anyway.So yes, Hag is strong, M&A is super strong, and her black skin makes her even harder to spot. But whatever, she's unpopular so she'll get a buff so Mr.Casual can eventually try to have fun/Buy her before getting back to a more braindead killer.
The upcoming Hag changes were actually discussed with long-standing Hag mains, just saying.
I'm actually aware of that, which is why she won't get more popular. She'll just get stronger for experienced players playing her. Most people just find her boring, and the slight boost on her base kit (aka 8 extra meters on teleport and improved trapping speed) won't make her a popular choice still imo.
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I had survivors calling me hacker when I play with Hag, 0 terror radius, and calls me ######### killer reported etc
Hag is good for camping aside from that she offers nothing in chase
Her purple addons are still as rubbish as always, and Waterlogged shoe still trash even after buffed
What I am seeing here is no different
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@Someissues said:
I had survivors calling me hacker when I play with Hag, 0 terror radius, and calls me ######### killer reported etcHag is good for camping aside from that she offers nothing in chase
Her purple addons are still as rubbish as always, and Waterlogged shoe still trash even after buffed
What I am seeing here is no different
Nothing in chase ? We don't play the same killer it seems.
WRAITH has nothing in chases. Hag is really good at chasing.2 -
@Runiver said:
Nothing in chase ? We don't play the same killer it seems.
WRAITH has nothing in chases. Hag is really good at chasing.I play Wraith better than Hag, with 12m Wall Hack you find survivor in no time and you'll never lose them in a chase. Hag is only good if survivors are willing to save, then you slaughter them with Make your choice, if survivors don't save and focused on rushing gens more often than not Hag will lose the game. Her rare addons is still bad and trash compared to Wraith
Her chase is only good if survivors steps on the traps, and if they bring flash-lights / Urban she is at a disadvantage compared to other killers
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@Someissues said:
@Runiver said:
Nothing in chase ? We don't play the same killer it seems.
WRAITH has nothing in chases. Hag is really good at chasing.I play Wraith better than Hag, with 12m Wall Hack you find survivor in no time and you'll never lose them in a chase. Hag is only good if survivors are willing to save, then you slaughter them with Make your choice, if survivors don't save and focused on rushing gens more often than not Hag will lose the game. Her rare addons is still bad and trash compared to Wraith
Her chase is only good if survivors steps on the traps, and if they bring flash-lights / Urban she is at a disadvantage compared to other killers
Very debatable once again, but I don't feel like repeating myself, since trying to make people understand that Hag is actually strong is pointless anyway.
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@Runiver said:
@brokedownpalace said:
@Lowbei Bud, I know you're like the resident troll and you have nowhere else to be but nowhere in my post did I suggest a nerf. I pointed out that M&A is bugged on her and for a future buff I don't think the devs took everything into consideration.@Runiver Played well Hag is a beast. People just don't want to take the time to figure her out. With her upcoming buffs she's going to get a lot more popular.
She ain't gonna get popular still mostly because :
She has no popular streamer playing her with results.
She's still a slowplay.
She's still behind a semi-paywall.
She's not "super cool looking" Myers.In any case, she's still my only main with Billy at this point, even tho I play nearly all killers at a rather competitive level (even tho most of them fail at being effective)
I have to agree with your post earlier of how strong The Hag can be. Not is because I've had really easy games against her if times not on your side, but there's times where she can wipe out an entire team of four really easy, and if you ask me, is the queen of map control.
Hags that really destroyed a well organized team often trapped windows, hard juke spots, and obvious places where survivors always go (shack, main buildings, etc). Also using her size to their advantage such as juking themselves and going in for an ambush attack.
She is power based. They've emphasized that through her slow movement speed like the Nurse. And with someone with such power based playstyle, that has to put her in a top tier.
And it's true, she isn't popular because nobody really knows how to use her strategically, and no popular streamers use her so she's left as being an underdog.
Also, my biggest problem with The Terror Radius is the freaking chase music that masks the heartbeat completely. Reason why I hate M&A is because i'll hear a slight a heartbeat then all of the sudden it's pounding hard but masked over this god-awful chase music. Same when injured, somebody for the love of god let us turn that off.
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Hag has her uses, but you can't deny she's inferior to many other Killers.
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The hag is a killer you have to use a certain way. You can't just chase around survivors and play like a moron.
If used correctly, she's great. I'm average at best with her. Them nerfing her default terror radius 4 meters was huge. WIth monitor and abuse, she is deadly. Her terror radius is like 12 meters with monitor on as she approaches right?
She's a defensive killer, and to be honest could use a slight buff and these changes they have coming to the game soon (mid chapter patch) are very welcomed and will be fantastic.
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@Someissues said:
@Runiver said:
Nothing in chase ? We don't play the same killer it seems.
WRAITH has nothing in chases. Hag is really good at chasing.I play Wraith better than Hag, with 12m Wall Hack you find survivor in no time and you'll never lose them in a chase. Hag is only good if survivors are willing to save, then you slaughter them with Make your choice, if survivors don't save and focused on rushing gens more often than not Hag will lose the game. Her rare addons is still bad and trash compared to Wraith
Her chase is only good if survivors steps on the traps, and if they bring flash-lights / Urban she is at a disadvantage compared to other killers
You think her Ultra Rare Addons are trash because you enjoy your wall hacks over real strategic play.
Her addons have to be the best in the game. The actual intent of Very Rare + Ultra Rare add ons being to change the way the game is played, The Hag's add ons would be the only example of that being true. I mean, what's game changing about a 12m Aura read? You know what is game changing though? Being able to teleport anywhere on the map with only a 15sec cooldown, and not have your traps actually set off when a survivor trips them.Screw unlimited instadown, The Hag's Add Ons are the best damn thing the game has introduced in a long, long time.
I've watched my friend use her with the one Add on which allows you to teleport to any trap with a cooldown, and it was ######### scary watching him. Queen of the damn map. Able to check gens real nicely, able to ambush, and made for some fun plays. There's nothing game changing with Unlimited Exposed except for it being OP.
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MintRag is the only that to truly make a hag feared with make your choice. I have never had anyone live from rank 20-1 using mintrag, red ebony mori( when i had it) and make your choice. Mintrag and make your choice is broken on the hag.
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It's stupid how underrated the hag is. I'd say given the nurse isn't quite as good on console, I would easily put hag next to if not above nurse. However, me and a group of friends (who combined form the worst SWF group ever) played against marth88 a few days ago. He did fine (aka we all lost)
But I digress, hag is a ridiculously goid killer when player correctly. She is just as not to be ######### with as the nurse for a good billy (some seem to be under the impression Billy is just auto good, by five faced more bad than goid billies0 -
brokedownpalace said:8BITLORD said:
You complain about hag and not Myers?
Myers tier 1=0 Meters slowed down
Myers tier 2=8 Meters faster then hag (most of game)
Myers tier 3=24 Meters instadown and fast vaults
And you know that you can crouch over her traps right?0 -
Most true hag mains actually dislike her very-rare/ultra-rare add-ons.
We usually mostly use necklaces and the grey mud add-on, which prove sufficient to be effective.All of the screenshots I posted with the double pips were made without MYC or Mint Rag/Shackles. Only green necklace and grey mud add-ons.
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@Spiritbx Oh, and if you were referring to this section of the forum as a "thread" then explain to me why we have a post from the community manager stickied up top asking for reports on a bug. It's a general discussion section. Most of the topics discussed here could go somewhere else.0