Hatch should open when next-to-last survivor is put on death hook, not after the sacrifice completes

It would just encourage more people to let their teammates hang instead of saving them to try and finish the objective and make it even harder for the killer to pip because there's no way they could get to it when people are usually hiding right next to it. I've been in plenty of games as is where people probably could have made it to gates but they just hid once the game heated up and waited for everyone else to die. You can already get points pretty easily to pip as a surv so there's really no point. Getting out is just bonus points at the end of the day and really isn't the main goal.

git gud and keep at the calm

Riddle me this. If this is implemented then if both me (as the Killer) and the final survivor know where the hatch is, and I've just downed the 2nd to last survivor. What's to stop you from going immersed until I pick up the survivor and then run (or walk depending on distance) over to the hatch while I'm hooking him?

Just patrolling the hatch isn't going to work since they don't actually need to hide near it. And I'd never draw you out since the only reason for them to move is me picking up the 3rd survivor, and they wouldn't be stupid enough to run right into my face where I could drop him and hit him.

My only option would be to wait out the bleedout time for the 3rd survivor in order to close the hatch. You wouldn't want that now would you?

The reason the hatch opens after the survivor's been sacrificed and not as soon as they are hooked, is to give the killer a chance to either find you, or find the hatch while removing incentive to just sit at the hatch.

Yes, being the last survivor in a game can feel unfair. Yes performing well but losing because of EGC can feel unfair for survivors. But it's not just about survivors, it's about killers too, it's about games not being held hostage or a good 20 to 30 minutes spent in a hatch standoff because neither side will relent.

This is to discuss survivor-related topics, it's not a survivor main forum. And you don't know who is or isn't a killer main unless they flat-out tell you.

Its a team effort, if they focus balancing between survivor and killer on a 1v1 level the whole game will undoubtedly be onesided. Its 4v1 and if your last then take the chances your given or accept the killer outplayed the team. Don't blame killer when 3 others on your side couldn't assist you with survival.

I let them close the hatch. I'll then get exit gate points and escape. If I didn't see the hatch in my travels then I won't bother looking for it. It's not a death sentence though. The killer can't hatch camp. If they want to stand there and look at it to lure me in, I crouch in some bushes and get Bold points. You can even sneak up behind them, and jump in before they close it.

I also accept the fact that sometimes I'm not going to escape. You win some and you lose some.

Honestly i think the hatch is just fine as it is. Both sides have a fair go and the old standoff routine is gone thank god. I hated the stand off so much that if i found them sitting on the hatch i'd have them follow me far enough from it so they knew i wasn't pulling a fast one, and let them just kill me, because sod a 20 minute game of playing who will give in first.

I get that it can be frustrating to do all that work and end up desperately trying to get a gate open, especially if they end up close together, but I honestly believe that this was the fairest they could make it for both sides. You have as much chance as the killer does to spot the hatch early in the game, and you both have a a chance of hunting it down if you don't.

I'd prefer to be killed on hook, than slugged for 3:59 first while they find the last person to avoid being cheesed out of a 4k.

Also, abandoning your teammates so you can camp the hatch should not receive buffs.

I had a game the other day I did 3 gens I don’t no no what everyone else was doing I was on my 4th I had unhooked everyone ,I had been Chased but not hooked they couldn’t get get they all died I think I deserve hatch lol from all the work I did To survive but no he had noed and the doors were same side greatest game ever XD

We need to give killers more of a reason to hook, no killer is ever going to want to hook the third survivor if they know it immediately puts the last remaining survivor at an advantage

I've given up playing in large because of issues like this.

I've even found the hatch by chance as 3rd survivor was hooked, and Trapper marched his ass clear across the map, to the hatch, i was standing at, an he was able to close it as it opened before I could click to exit. We were both standing at it. I was there first. I looked at him. He looked at me. I was already clicking frantically to leave And he was still able to close it. Then down me. Then hook me. 1st hook, last hook.

I've worked my tail off doing totems, doing gens, unhooking, taking protection hits and healing. I Pip and even double pip most of the matches played and remain in red ranks. However, all this can still make for a poor game experience when your other 3 survivors are potato goo, keep getting hooked, sandbagging each other, falling for the obvious insidious Leatherface in the basement and dying all before I even get hooked once. Only for the killer to find and close the hatch,snap it shut and stand between the exit gates that are conveniently both in eye shot waiting for me to surrender, making all the work I put into that match pointless because there is ZERO chance at escape.

And now that you don't even get struggle points OR a chance to self unhook because who wants to wait for people to die for the match to end amirite? I play even less. (But Gen-rushing makes the game 'too fast' yeahok)

To me the matches have become the equivalent of going to the butcher and choosing a prime cut of beef, bringing it home, marinading it over night, carefully cooking it on the grill to perfection, letting it sit and rest for just the right time... AND THROWING IT OUT THE DARNED WINDOW.

It's a waste of time and effort and if I can't get out in any way, ever now, why not just have the last survivor hook themselves, save us all the time and effort and just end the game there.

The changes keep taking and taking and taking and it does nothing to balance the game or even help with QOL.

Constructive ideas:

Have a chest spawn randomly on the map with a key to reopen the hatch

Have survivors no longer leave scratch marks once the 3rd survivor is sacrificed.

Have the doors spawn a reasonable distance apart from each other (AKA One should not be able to stand at one door and see the other dang door clear as day. (BIG BRAIN idea i know)

Have the hatch become first come first serve. Killer gets to hatch zone first Killer can close. Survivor rolls up on hatch first well they get to escape.

People are still going to camp hatch, just like killers still camp face. Not sure what can be done about either, maybe loud loud loud SFX? Have the hatch BLAST its wooshy sound so both killer and survivor know where it is, and for face camping, some sort of circus music :D

I'm not demanding the hatch, I'm not entitled to the hatch, but i'm saying there's some very imbalanced stuff happening in regards to it that it seriously needs looked into.

Doesn't bother me. I am the best at body blocking the killers so they can’t close it 😎