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Killer isn't fun and here's why

SasukeKun
SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858
edited June 2019 in General Discussions

Survivors can use whatever they want and t bag but when killers wanna have some fun

I get this, but this is typical survivor behavior

I even put bloody party streamers and they all quit anyway to waste my addons and etc, because you don't get punished for it and they just laugh at you in end game chat/BM. There goes my add ons and offerings i just spent loops doing and grinding for a fun match.

Killer is in a dark place

0/10

EDIT: This can be said for any killer's pink or rare add ons, etc

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  • Mushwin
    Mushwin Member Posts: 4,598

    .....


  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    a solid no, you're comparing alpha squads to 1 person alone against them. There's different odds and if anything survivor feels like a breeze. Dead Hard, DS, MOM, Adrenaline etc. Oh but i'm sweaty for using BBQ or Ruin, or NOED.

    i vastly disagree at the game's current state

  • Eguzky
    Eguzky Member Posts: 173

    Here's the thing I love; using ANY perk with an Obsessed, and having a SWF group pop in. Without fail, every time, whoever is the Obsessed quits, which renders my Obsession perk(s) completely useless against his friends.

    It's gotten so bad that I don't use any perk that relies on an Obsession, and I have not for a long, long time. It's just such a joy that I can be screwed out of a perk slot by scrubs who have to cheat to win.

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    Not that Dcing is excusable for any player but reasons behind a killer leaving are way more practical these days

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873
    edited June 2019

    @SasukeKun What? I'm not talking about which side is harder. I'm talking about which side is more BORING. At least read my comment. I didn't even bring up perks being OP. Read a comment before you waffle on about something else.

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    And i said that killer is more boring than survivor with a few sided notes explaining

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @SasukeKun Then don't bring in perks. They do nothing to help your argument and don't say survivor is a breeze I know that. Even though killer is harder, it's still more fun.

  • Poweas
    Poweas Member Posts: 5,873

    @SasukeKun perks have nothing to do with fun. You're literally just arguing against yourself and proving my point. Just stop it XD.

    You're literally just waffling.

  • ohio
    ohio Member Posts: 2

    I can't verify what people said post chat but I dcd because someone else dcd. I don't want to play a 3v1 when someone else dcd ten seconds into the match. I consider that sandbagging. That's not fun for me. I don't care what add ons you use or what style you play. Here's a question: did you want to play a 3v1? Is that fun for you? If it is then great that's cool man. But its not for me. You know what else isn't fun? Farming. That sucks too. And a lot of the time killers resort to farming after someone dcs early. So given how long it takes to find matches nowadays I'd rather take the L and the DC and find another match with a full group. It's really that simple. Sorry that guy ruined the game and while I disagree with it, maybe you should think twice about using pinky finger or iri heads or whatever while the current climate is what it is. Or just know going in that some people might DC against it. So no, I didn't DC to ruin your add ons and nor did I laugh at you or bm. But to drop this photo and that narrative when you're angry, which I get, is pretty petty dog. GL in the future though.

  • xmenfanatic
    xmenfanatic Member Posts: 816

    I enjoy playing killer, I don't agree that "whenever a killer wants to have fun, players DC". DCing is terrible and i hate when it happens, but its still possible to play killer and have fun.

  • No_Cluie_Louis
    No_Cluie_Louis Member Posts: 1,093

    As a person who plays both sides ALOT, i disagree alot. I believe survivor is more relaxed, but killers can still have fun, as i'm always nodding and hitting walls and stuff to acknowledge a survivors stupid mistake etc. Too many killers don't do this.

    Also, don't blame the survivors really, blame the lack of balance. Addons for both sides can be too strong. They should be about changing up the ability / item, not making it stronger. It's not fun to play against insta heals (and back in the day insta flashlights), just as it's not fun to play against addons such as those nasty ones you have (on top of noed by the way not that i'm gonna stop you from playing how you like).

    The main difference is, if a survivor is scummy, killers can get their own back by camping, but if killers are scummy, all survivors can do is keep playing or leave, and they'd rather save time and take the latter option.

    The irony is, many complained killer was too weak for ages, and whilst they were right in a sense, killers such as nurse, billy, and spirit are not, and many addons can make weak killers such as clown madly OP. The problem is addons, offering and perks can change a terrible killer to a great one, making it incredibly difficult to balance, as they will either be too strong, and cause people to DC, or will be too weak, and no fun to play

  • Andreyu44
    Andreyu44 Member Posts: 1,527

    @MegaWaffle

    I understand,but if you dont care about your items and just wanna get those BPs...its not fun when the killer DC ;/

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    In lower ranks, experienced, communicating survivors know how to stack certain builds and it's easier said than done by what you said. You never stated which ranks

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    You know what else is petty? DCing and wasting my add ons DOG.

  • Slayer
    Slayer Member Posts: 1,148

    Killers cant dc?

  • n2njauwu
    n2njauwu Member Posts: 267

    its pretty obvious which side is more toxic looking at survivor . though i play both sides i play more killer and almost every post game there is survivor saying nice things ;) and i maybe seen few toxic killers in chat almost never but yeah most of em were anyway triggered by bming survivors

  • Mochan
    Mochan Member Posts: 2,886

    4 Man Alpha Squads sound like the most boring thing yo play on a Sunday afternoon.


    You sit behind a Gen, click m1 for 3 minutes and that's the game. Uh no BORING..


    Sometimes I DC from deranking killers because it's boring as heck.

  • TheRoyalOwl
    TheRoyalOwl Member Posts: 749

    I'm currently playing legion in red ranks, with Ruin, thana, surveillance, and Nurses ( Only level 26-8 ).

    Killer can certainly been frustrating, but I enjoy playing killer more than survivor.

    Survivor relies alot on your team and the killer. Having a boring killer or trash teammates ruins the game. Though with killer you can control the game a lot more, making it more funnier for me at least.


    Also people talk about "O killers DC too", but in reality killers DC a lot less than survivors.

  • se05239
    se05239 Member Posts: 3,919

    @Mister_xD You're being very naive if you believe that Behavior will ban anyone more than a day when the Dedicated Servers go live and the new DC ban system goes into effect.

  • bgbomb
    bgbomb Member Posts: 434
  • Alfred
    Alfred Member Posts: 272

    Just DC too to save your items...

  • Atrushan88
    Atrushan88 Member Posts: 2,092

    I've had 3 bloody party streamers one after the other ruined because a killer DCed before the game even really got started. I've stopped using them because the killer ALWAYS dcs when I do. This isn't just a killer problem, and killer also gets some compensation points when a survivor DCs. I'm on PS4 though so we don't have an end-game chat unless someone messages you or you message them. I've never seen 3 survivors DC, only 2 at most, and when I use bloody party streamers as killer, I still manage to get my points. Items should not be used(as in you don't get the bonus BP and it doesn't vanish from your inventory) if a killer DCs. If this happens often on the killer side(it doesn't to me), then perhaps the same if three survivor DCs, but honestly a killer would never get his BPS used if it counted 1 DC. As for add-ons, a lot of addons are too OP to be used multiple times. That's why they get one use. Perhaps if 3/4 survivors dc within the first 5 minutes, then you should get to keep it, because after 5 minutes, at least you got some use out of it, and if the survivors dced, then they usually do that when they've been caught. I dunno what addons you were using but I know one red addon makes it where you can one hit down survivors and honestly that's kind of a BS addon, so I can imagine how much fun the survivors would be having facing a slowing gas where they're also exposed. Not excusing their behavior but it is kinda BS to basically have an unbreakable NOED all game as long as you hit them with a projectile before you hit them. I think a DC should give the killer 2k BP per category(in other words 8k BP), so that if 4 survivors DC the killer gets full BP, and the survivors should all get 32k BP if the killer DCs. I feel like that'd cut down a lot on DCs in general.

  • RoKrueger
    RoKrueger Member Posts: 1,371
    edited June 2019

    The killer's life is not for cowards or people who can't take a lost match now and then

  • FireHazard
    FireHazard Member Posts: 7,314

    No, its for suckers like us who enjoy being punished in Bully Simulator 2016, but this only applies in the case of a SWF or actually organised solo survivor team (which is rare.)

    A well organized team knows what to do, they know the loops, the most busted perks, and the layout of each map. A SWF usually consists of one or two people who can loop the killer for a long time (considering they're anyone but Spirit, Billy, Nurse, or Legion.) and as a result you're stuck in a match that basically has a huge (No fun allowed) sign everywhere you go.

    Only non-SWF games are fun, unless you're looking for a challenge which I sometimes do. And I say a challenge, not a display of 4 MoMs procing at once during the end game.

  • TheLastGreatStar
    TheLastGreatStar Member Posts: 1,002

    This happens from both sides though. I've been in plenty of matches where the killer disconnects because things aren't going their way. Some people are just unable to accept defeat, whether they are playing as a survivor or a killer. I just wish you didn't lose your BP when the killer disconnected by crashing their app. That needs to be fixed ASAP.

  • SasukeKun
    SasukeKun Member Posts: 1,858

    It sucks for everyone i agree, sometimes though people crash and that shouldn't count as a leave. I've crashed and had to quit because it will freeze

  • MistressChara
    MistressChara Member Posts: 112

    @Poweas He politely disagreed with you. Don't start accusing him of poor character because of that.


    On the topic however, Killer is still fun but there are issues. Many of them are simply ghosts of an earlier stage of the game but they do still exist. The community is a big part of why killer can be frustrating or stressful due to the toxicity. My personal strategy for dealing with this is to always respond uniquely and kindly to everything (Such as having a different "gg" type saying, or responding to common insults with kind but also unique responses.)


    It makes people realize that you're not just a bot but a unique person. From my experience it at the very least makes them think twice if not stop them from doing it to others in the future. Makes you feel a lot better about it as well.

  • Cymer
    Cymer Member Posts: 946

    My issues with the game and playing as the killer are the following:

    If you are good with a killer and have unlocked everything you figure out what works for you and from that point onward it's just grind.

    SWFs are a big counter to my fun in the game, because you don't know before hand if you need to bring your "A"-game or can goof around.

    Yes not all SWFs are sweaty, but if you just try a fun perk build and then run into a squad, you hate it even more, because there is nothing you can do against.

    If you run into too many toxic SWFs in a row you yourself start playing sweaty, because you don't want to lose against those voice abusers.

    To top it off is the lack of viable killers at red ranks.

    What the devs don't get is, strong killers are fun killers!

    I have far more fun outwitting a good Nurse or juke a Billy then pity a Legion for trying.

    Maybe we need some indicators of what kind of SWFs we are facing, fun/normal ones or toxic ones.

    How to achieve such a thing?

    Just let us tag players/SWFs after the game with a toxic mark and over a certain tresh hold they get shown to you in the start lobby as a "challenging" SWFs group.

    Having a clear SWF indicator would help to chose my load out to be viable during the match.

    BTW, why is there no option to save and store my favorite perk builds?

    Like rune pages in LoL or load outs in most other games? I would rather have this then a snotty Ghostface.