Do you guys think Billy is a little too powerful for the skill cap?< Resolved >

I don't think whether a character is hard to play has any bearing on whether they are overpowered. Billy is definitely too strong, or perhaps it's just that most killers are too weak.

billy is ez mode

Practice and muscle memory shouldn't be part of the balancing process.
A killer is just mecanically limited, and as long as he's not "OP", he's not broken, even if he's easy af to use.

Jack11803 said:

@only1biggs said:

@GT_Legend2 said:
@ChesterTheMolester I agree, my second game EVER with him was a 4K with 1 gen remaining, I fell he needs tweaking, because it seems almost easy when I picked him up

I thought you weren't asking for a nerf? Here's the answer...the survivors were terrible.

Billy is the most balanced killer in the game, hands down. He can be extremely powerful in the right hands and if used correctly. Those who say "he's easy to use" are usually morons.

Leave Billy and his skill house alone.

No he’s not. It just seems like that because killers in general are too weak. If the devs somehow balanced the killer mode, both nurse and billy would need a nerf. He should not move quite as fast as he does with that chainsaw

It's entirely possible that slightly lowering his chainsaw speed would make him MORE dangerous.

Hillbilly is Leatherface 5000. He has none of his weaknesses, and no tangible weaknesses in general. Full movement speed, full lunge, no penalty for using his chainsaw, highest mobility by far, and the huge cleave on his chainsaw that is as reliable as Leatherface's saw.

His chainsaw amounts to multiple perks built into his kit.

@only1biggs said:

@P3Myers said:
billy is ez mode

Look who's talking

meyers is far more balanced, versatile, and fun to play with and against.

If you think any of the killers need anything but a buff in the current state of the game then you aren't playing against the right survivors.

@P3Myers said:

@only1biggs said:

@P3Myers said:
billy is ez mode

Look who's talking

meyers is far more balanced, versatile, and fun to play with and against.

I didn't say otherwise. I made a joke based on the fact that you, P3Myers, said, "Billy is EZ mode", when as P3Myers, all you do is look at people and there is no mechanical skill at all. Myers is the easiest killer to play along with Doc.

See?

@akbays35 said:
IMO I feel like Nurse/Billy are just too mobile and have too much map presence and have the easiest time in chases when they have some measure of competency. I really feel like they need nerfs/ changes so they can buff all the killers in general or do other changes to the game. I'd prefer that they just remove the stuns on Nurse make her move slightly faster and just give her one dash, with billy I'd just put a limit (20m) on his chainsaw dash, but give him easier turning. If they do this, they can make the maps smaller, put objectives closer and do changes to gens so they aren't rushed to give the killers time to respond.

Make nurse move faster and give her one dash? That would literally bring her significantly closer to just a standard m1 killer. One dash? Are you trying to almost completely kill the whole uniqueness of her? And a 20m chainsaw sprint? May aswell just play cannibal, because he would be almost the exact same, but better. Or just play the pig, because you're basically asking for the hillbilly to have the pigs ambush ability, except without stealth and 1 hit down instead. I don't know if you realise how short 20m is in the games map distance? Then you proceed to say that if they hugely nerf those 2 killers, they could make smaller maps? That would then be a significant buff to all other killers, and a nerf to survivors. I have no idea what you think would happen if they made the maps smaller and increased gen time. Survivors would actually get dominated, unless in turn you wanted every single character and mechanic then changed in response. In which case your basically asking for a DBD 2. Idk if you're a complete fool, of if you're just a young teen and really have no idea what you're on about.

@only1biggs said:

@P3Myers said:

@only1biggs said:

@P3Myers said:

@only1biggs said:

@P3Myers said:
billy is ez mode

Look who's talking

meyers is far more balanced, versatile, and fun to play with and against.

I didn't say otherwise. I made a joke based on the fact that you, P3Myers, said, "Billy is EZ mode", when as P3Myers, all you do is look at people and there is no mechanical skill at all. Myers is the easiest killer to play along with Doc.

See?

its easy to play billy because of his high mobility and map pressure plus with his instachain build its not hard to chainsaw down survivors and you can down survivors for infinite uses unlike limited tier 3 meyers.My name P3myers means prestige 3 meyers not tier 3 exposed. Its far harder to apply map pressure with myers and requires more strategy than compared to mach 5 flying to the next survivor with bbq. Why do you think myers is a mid tier balanced killer and high ranks play nurse and billy only? None of the killrs expect nurse and huntress requires a little bit of skill. Atleast nurse takes a little more experience with her blinks and if you mess up you can lose the survivor not with billy. Most people either use the instachainsaw build or use it for its mobility to catch up to survivors which doesnt require much skill either. My point is you cant lose a survivor and its easy to apply pressure with billy hence ez mode.

If you think that Myers takes skill while holding M2, over Billy using a chainsaw to target someone while they are actively avoiding you, then..I don't know what to tell you? Again, Myers has no mechanical skill whatsoever. A good Billy must hold his chainsaw for the right time or he can be juked...it's not just a case of back revving.

I was originally making a joke about your name and the fact that Myers is easy mode due to his power being simple to use. That's all.

I mistyped the following - "when as P3Myers". Just meant to type "Myers". You as a Myers.

But, you need to apply pressure..Billy is most effective at getting around, so of course he will be used more.

I could say Myers is "ez mode" as all you have to do is stalk to 99% then snowball by pressing M1 at the right time.

Really not sure why you're arguing

I said repeatedly nothing in this game takes much skill. Playing as myers against good survivor is far harder than a billy period. BillyUs chainsaw is not hard to use and its used for MOBILITY UNLESS YOU RUN AN INSTACHAINSAW BUILD. Not sure why you keep comparing to myers stalk. play as myers as rank 1 and then play billy. Billy is far easier to get more kills and have a easier time than any other killer except an experienced nurse.

If survivor nerfs continue billy will be a problem same as nurse. But until then having a killer who is both accessible and usable in high ranks is better for the health of the game. Not everyone has the time to get nurse down and making that the only  viable killer in high ranks is a bad experience for not only killers but survivors who are already getting sick of the limited pool of playable killers in higher ranks.

Honestly, @P3Myers? The only thing he's got going for him is the surprise instadown. Slow early game since he's nearly the same speed as survivors and has to search for them, then stalk them to get to EW2 and become a base killer with a 16m terror radius, but with a nearly fluorescent mask. Then stalk some more to get that sweet instadown. Billy keeps you on your toes the whole game. Myers only surprises you when you're far from a pallet or window.

@Pirscher said:
He is the official easy mode copy+paste killer with BBQ and Ruin. Its also no coincide that is says 'Easy' next to his name under killer selection.

So many people seem to have fooled themselves to thinking that if you dont use him with this setup at high ranks, that you have no chance - but its not true.

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A little originality wouldnt hurt instead of always copying trends/the masses

His mobility breaks him, or his instant downs. Compare him to Wraith, Leatherface, Myers--he's a thousand times better than all of them in every single way. Hillbilly gets way too much free #########, and his power comes with no drawbacks. Other killers can recklessly spam their power and be punished? Hillbilly? LOLNO. He never has to M1 if he doesn't want to. Other killers have to walk to cover terrain, and even Nurse cannot cross the entire map easily without her fatigue slowing her down, and she requires addons to grant this. Hillbilly? LOLNO. Just fire up your chainsaw, charge away, cancel it for free without penalty, and turn around to do it again.

The only other killer as ridiculous as Hillbilly is Doctor. Nurse can be, too, but there's several asterisks attached to her.

@Hillbilly420 said:

@P3Myers said:

@Eninya said:

@Pirscher said:
He is the official easy mode copy+paste killer with BBQ and Ruin. Its also no coincide that is says 'Easy' next to his name under killer selection.

So many people seem to have fooled themselves to thinking that if you dont use him with this setup at high ranks, that you have no chance - but its not true.

>

A little originality wouldnt hurt instead of always copying trends/the masses

His mobility breaks him, or his instant downs. Compare him to Wraith, Leatherface, Myers--he's a thousand times better than all of them in every single way. Hillbilly gets way too much free #########, and his power comes with no drawbacks. Other killers can recklessly spam their power and be punished? Hillbilly? LOLNO. He never has to M1 if he doesn't want to. Other killers have to walk to cover terrain, and even Nurse cannot cross the entire map easily without her fatigue slowing her down, and she requires addons to grant this. Hillbilly? LOLNO. Just fire up your chainsaw, charge away, cancel it for free without penalty, and turn around to do it again.

The only other killer as ridiculous as Hillbilly is Doctor. Nurse can be, too, but there's several asterisks attached to her.

exactly what im saying. other killers have lots more disadvantages if they screw their power up but billy gets so many instadowns chances and can never lose a survivor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmnE4FfvXUM

Out in the open, sure, they're done. But if they're anywhere near trees, a jungle gym, any kind of obstacle then Billy is not going to instantly get them. He can catch up but he's not going to nail them with that saw not unless the Billy player made an amazing read.

If you are near random bullshit that blocks Billy's saw and still getting hit if he's a couple hundred feet away then you are bad at juking.

its called 99% the saw they wont know when your releasing it. you still didnt counter how you cant lose him. hes the easiest killer bc you can just hit with ur primary and use the power for speed and nothing else which helps ALOT where time is the most important thing. in fact thats how most people use him when they cant land chainsaw hits or are around stuf lmao. it requires the least amount of effort among killers.