Tiny nerf for ghostface?
Why? :(
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and the crying can begin.
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god no, i hope that does not happen.
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It's just frustrating that the devs seem to want to nerf any killer that actually seems viable. If he indeed turns out to be op, than a nerf would be fine of course. But maybe they should wait and see how he does at high ranks before planning any nerf already. It's getting ridiculous.
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hopefully this helps
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I'm actually laughing though. It's not terrible. Just wanted to see what people would say.
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"Detection area of screen slightly increased for Survivors attempting to reveal Ghost Face."
This is the important change IMO. We'll have to see if "slightly" ends up being something relatively benign or if it ends up being problematic. Sadly we won't know until later since the Ghostface changes will arrive in a future patch instead of this one.
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Scared of another legion. Though is something even abusable about him? I haven't been keeping up.
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It's not about that. It's about their BHVR (pun intended) in general with Killers for the past couple of months.
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I'd say that both the increase of the detection area and the fact that you can no longer stalk survivors that are already marked will definitely have some impact on him and will make him just a bit less viable at high ranks. And we need more killers viable at high ranks.
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Well, I won't buy him at this time, especially not if they already plan to nerf him.
I do hope others will follow and help set an example. This is a unique opportunity, since Chapter 12 only contains Ghost Face, Survivor mains have no interest buying him in the first place and if Killer players too refuse to buy him for the time being or at all, it will hurt the devs in a way that might actually make them listen again, since licensed Characters are not cheap for them and cost a lot of money to make.
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Just so you have the exact data, the increase of the detection on screen is a 4% on each side, for a total of 8%. Its very minimal. We didn't want to alter the timing of the current stalk system. But we felt that Survivors where having a hard time getting him out of his Night Shroud Power during a chase.
Thank you!
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Post edited by xP3nnyWize on1 -
That doesn't make the decision any better whatsoever. Stop babying Survivors over and over again, I don't get why you guys still don't get this after 3 years. They can get the good for a change.
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so if u made it little easier to reveal him why remove the ability to longer the marked effect , i seen already few ppl make hesitate to buy him since we know what happened to legion
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What about him not being able to stalk survivors that are already marked? That's the nerf I'm most concerned about. Was that never intentional to begin with? I'm just worried that might hurt him a bit too much.
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???
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Can we just give Legion a new base kit because it is getting really old reading patch notes that talk about changes to other perks or killers that also keep messing with his powers. First it was Borrowed Time and now Killer Instinct is about to get just as messy. We Legion players are already trying to salvage what's left of the killer and it would be great if we can have a set of stats that we don't have to worry about seeing a change in because someone or something else is over or under performing.
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What was the point of buffing the timer from 20 seconds to 45 seconds if you could stalk it back to full whenever you wanted?
I agree he needs to be buffed in other areas to compensate, (removing the wind turbine sound when within 8 meters for one) but that was clearly an oversight by the devs.
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Unfortunately, this surprises noone.
Buying Ghostface at this point is pure masochism.
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Its slight changes that take a Viable Rank 1 Killer to a sub par mid tier. Survivors complain they are tired of seeing the same three Killers at rank 1. Well how about we make more Killers rank 1 viable and stop nerfing them before we even have actual reliable data.
PTB Data is balls, only real community data can be trusted.
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The problem with the current one is that it's so damn impossible to reveal him in a chase. If you're off by 0.0000000001mm it doesn't work and EZ exposed. You can literally have him dead center on your screen and it still won't work sometimes.
I'm glad they're at least making it a little easier.
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The only issue i would see with him is the stalking while in chase when a surviour is looking back at him for some time doesnt knock him out but i could be wrong ( i play on xbox so havent experience him yet) just wondering if that a actual thing if someone can clarify for me please and thank you.
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why would they make a rank 1 killer? the majority of players are mid to low ranks. and they know they will cut themselves with a nurse like killer in this period of time. it's not gonna happen. not even hard to understand
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As a masochist, I am offended.
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I mean... the changes are literally as follows "detection range was too sensitive, so it was slightly tweaked" and "bugfix" but people are acting like they just ######### murdered him.
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what would you expect. crybabies everwhere
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Ghostface's exposed status effect is replaced with Deep Wounds.
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You ask for constructive criticism, and then proceed to ignore all of it and set the killer up for five nerfs while buffing aspects of their kit that don't matter. I think I'm about done being nice and constructive, as are a lot of people. I'll just join the heaps of people that don't provide anything useful from here on out, as obviously the time spent trying to give detailed, logical breakdowns is entirely wasted.
Your balance team needs to be assigned elsewhere, or fired. I think it's time you looked into hiring people that give a ######### about the future of this game. Sorry to put it so bluntly, but I think these baseless, garbage changes really show where your internal team is at with their knowledge of this game. They're either incompetent, ignorant, or malicious at this point. Pick one, and I pray it's just one of the two 'we're idiots' options.
Oh, and before anyone says "but the changes aren't so bad, they're tiny." Regardless of whether or not they're massive, they've still gone and nerfed a killer who's likely mid tier at best. The principle, that's what matters here.
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then buff hes cooldown 30s its way to long should be at least 20-15s if you guys do this i will say that he will be good to go but for the moment i wont buy the dlc since you guys wanted to change him again in the next ptb
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Not everyone has faced Ghostface yet and we should all stop complaining about changes until we have played as him. I know some people did play the ptb but the games are mixed with random ranked survivors so its hard to judge him.
Give him a few days and enjoy playing as him. No need to complain about changes that haven't come yet. I personally welcome the changes but if they are too much then they'll revert him back.
Just enjoy the fact he is released, decently strong and we can enjoy him since the event has been extended. Thanks devs for doing this!
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"Give him a few days and enjoy playing as him. No need to complain about changes that haven't come yet. I personally welcome the changes but if they are too much then they'll revert him back."
History has shown this statement to be false and that's exactly why Veteran players are pissed off with the devs at this point.
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Get a load of theses clowns, he was fine on the PTB after his buff, and re-stalking survivors was fine, he kinda needed it to keep his pressure on and have his OS to be useful with how ######### the map design is and survivors getting a pallet at every corner, what the hell.
Fix your damn maps and the survivor side, stop nerfing the killers, they aren't the issue, you are the issue by not adressing what need fixing.
Post edited by Plu on12 -
What about those of us who can't because of the stun VFX?
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Did they really nerf a killer that everyone thought was ######### to begin with?
Good god I was wrong... The devs are really that stupid at balancing.
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You tell 'em man!
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I'll admit, I laughed
There is something very BE about that being a thing.
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Im usually by your side,but this time I think you all are overreacting a bit.
I agree the devs should have waited a bit more,but the changes are not that bad.
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welp i thought bhvr learn this mistake i guess they didint so whats the point for the votes alot of ppl loved the change now its crap i just read the damm changes they did to him hes going to get rekt but for know they wont earn any money since ppl wont buy him
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no one cares about the exact data when you nerf killers when you did not need to .... "very minimal" yeah when survivors easy mode as it is. come on lol. hahaha you felt that survivors was having a hard time. well this is one killer i wont be buying killers should be nurse and billy level you know so people actually choose more killers not circus clowns ....
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At this point we might as well play Clown to be in costume.
"Ladies and Gentlemen, welcome to greatest show in the fog, the entity's big top circus!!! We have gen repairing, looping, tea bagging, broken maps and of course our very own Clow cough I mean killers. So bring your SWF, equip your broken builds, bully those killers at the greatest show in the fog!!!"
*Circus music plays*
Post edited by Hag.is.Dtier on2 -
I swear some people will just get mad at anything. GhostFace is one of the more fun killers and to those of you saying he's too weak because he got a little nerf, I say how come it's the killers problem if he's weaker against a really well put together group of survivors.
Instead of making GhostFace really strong like a lot of you demand, to have him decent and fun to play for the majority is a good move. If good survivors are too strong then that's surely a separate issue unrelated to GhostFace.
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i like how they kept the fact that object of obsession fully counter him and did nothing
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"Almost everyone was happy with the fixes, but we thought that maybe sometime somewhere some survivormains might be unhappy so we're gonna start planning the nerfs before he's even out"
If he's OP, why are you releasing him. If he's not OP, why do you have nerfs planned.
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This.
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Oh god, pls no changes that make him worse again...
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I am not surprised by this anymore
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Anyone that says he doesn't need a slight nerf is obviously a ghostface main....The speed at which he can stalk and I don't know if it's a broken mechanic or something but I can't seem to break him out of it. He's literally a very stronger Meyers and pig combo right now. I admit his PTB release was garbage but it's crazy how far he went in the other direction? He seems extremely fast for a stealth killer that can expose extremely fast too. I think just a slight speed percentage when stalking, longer time to expose, or slightly less time exposed would be okay. I definitely don't want to see him nerfed into the ground like tends to happen. Because I do enjoy using him but he should only be that good when using good add ons because I feel his current state is causing people to tunnel and camp just out of sight and his ability promotes it in it's current state.
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I play both survivor and killer and have bought every dlc they have released on both sides. I admit I wasn't going to buy ghostface on the ptb release because he was so bad, but now that I've bought him I still think he needs a minor nerf or tweak of his power mechanic. I honestly feel like garbage players are doing way too well with him because he's a little OP right now. I say this being a pretty crappy killer and feeling the need to farm because it's so one sided so far. Especially since his power isn't very skill based like nurse or add on based like billy. I'm all for him being a little OP when using rare or extremely rare add ons but as is with no add ons it's a little much in my opinion... I just wish they would tweak things little by little instead of everything a little bit all the same time which would turn him to garbage again
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