Can you revert the fast vault changes? They are bad for the game.

It isn't hard to rank up as killer at all because pretty much anybody can make it to any rank by just dedicating time into the game. The only thing that makes it more difficult is when people just disconnect or certain killers who do their job too well and in return don't get enough emblems for it.

That being said, the killer shack is not an infinite and there are a few tricks you can do at the killer shack to mindgame it. Once the god pallet is gone, the shack is a death sentence. The problem is just the fact that on certain maps (such as the coldwind maps as an example) you can end up with some really disgusting setups where you have a bunch of loops that are fine on their own but way too powerful when combined.

Overall though, I'm pretty neutral on the fast vault changes because I can understand why they were made as you had people who were still able to fast vault in places where it shouldn't have been possible though at the same time I also don't like that it takes away from a skillful action that better survivors could pull off. I'd still like to see where this goes with the upcoming map reworks.

An infinite by my definition is a loop that has the following requirements ;

• No opportunity to be outplayed by mindgames
• A loop where if the entity blocker & bloodlust did not exist you could loop forever without the killer being able to catch up.

At the killer shack there are some opportunities to eventually catch up or mindgame it, ontop of that there are 5 killers that with enough practice can turn the shack into a death sentence (So Nurse, Hillbilly, Spirit, Hag & Huntress). Of course if you aren't using those 5 killers the shack might be annoying depending on the survivor, but it certainly isn't an infinite by itself.

The problem is that the shack can break LoS and the chase long enough for Entity blockers to be reset and for Bloodlust to be reset when the loop is started at maximum distance.

Played correctly around the Killer's mindgames, which isn't difficult with a 3rd person camera, and you can easily loop the window 4 or more times.

So we need to revert the ability where Survivors could fast vault a window with no leg room just by going 90 degrees from it?

Why? You shouldn't have been able to fast vault certain windows that were impossible to do so in the first place.

Can you actually provide any kind of tangible argument other than "lol ur bad" Mr. IblockSpirit Players?

Again, I don't play Killer, but I'm able to recognize nonsense when it appears. And the shack is nonsense.

I'd like for you to actually be able to prove I'm bad.

Oh wait, you can't, because I stream every game I play and I pip up literally almost every game, even when I die.

Stop yourself.

So you're telling me you can consistently get 3 Gold and one iridescent Emblem at the high ranks? Are you actually saying that the Survivors that are complaining about it being too hard to pip are just whining then?

It isn't hard to pip at low ranks. Have you actually maintained your Red Rank? Can you prove you have with a stream?

Have you ever noticed when I disagree with you, I never simply say you're bad at the game? It's because I generally assume most people on these forums are halfway decent.

However, if you can't even get to Red Ranks you have no business saying that pipping doesn't show skill, when you have to get at least 2 saves, run a chase for longer than a minute, do at least 3 gens, AND survive the trial just to get a pip.

You're saying most Survivors can do that on a regular basis? Lol

And actually, I have provided several reasons on how it is an infinite. You're just ignoring them. Try reading my posts again.

You literally just said you die nearly every game.

It's nearly impossible to pip at Red Ranks if you die unless you also get two Iridiscent emblems, which you likely aren't getting if you died.

Yea, it's definitely just me being bad despite the fact that nearly everytime I use the shack I never get window blockers nor do I get hit unless I make my own mistake.

Sorry it's hard for you to swallow that your only saving grace is gone from the game with the vault changes. Guess you'll have to adapt like the Killer players 💁‍♂️

Of course it doesn't, I never said it didn't. Please provide where I said that.

I said it's much more difficult, nearly impossible, not impossible. So you're telling me that despite getting Silver Unbroken, you are still able to get 4 saves, complete 4-5 gens, AND lead the chase on a Killer for longer than a minute? I somehow doubt that, unless you managed to only die at the very end of the trial. But since you say you play like a boosted Survivor, I assume you probably die halfway through the game like most boosted Survivors.

You can't get Benevolence if no one else gets hooked aside from minimum heal points or useless Sabo, So if you die first, there is 0 way you are pipping up.

Considering if you die super early you will only get Bronze Unbroken, you'll have to get THREE Iridiscents to get your pip, I honestly don't see people who die pipping up at Red Ranks very often.

Of course, feel free to provide screenshots, or video evidence to prove me wrong. But we both know how much you are allergic to evidence that doesn't support your wild claims.

I never said you died first either. I simply said IF you die first, there is no way you'll pip up. That's it. Never claimed you always die first. Bait harder.

Man, context is really an important factor when you're speaking with someone bro.

Also, again, I shouldn't take someone who actually blocks Spirit players seriously. Anyone that dodges based on a Killer, especially Spirit, clearly lacks mindgame potential.

You won't provide any shred of evidence or logical reasoning for anything you say.

This is literally bait to try and get me banned, and you're doing a very poor job at it. Enjoy knowing I'll still be around.

I mean, it took you what, 2000 hours to get to Rank 1 judging by your time played and when you earned Rank 1?

I don't think I need to worry about what you consider skillful.

@Paladin_Goo

How do you run shack as a killer? Also, why do you believe its an infinite? Genuinely curious

Can someone tell me what exactly they changed?

Is that the inside or outside of the window

I thought it’s been that way for a while though? I’ve always had to do the u turn thing

You can vault that window if you take it in 45° angle, but is very inconsistent. Sometimes you get a fast vault , sometimes a medium one.