Devs, something needs to be done about OoO
It's terrible, and keeping this perk the way it is, hard countering GF from using his power just reduces him to a regular M1 killer its horrible and promotes bullying from the Survivors. Why don't you understand this? Are you working on a solution to it?
I'm not saying make the perk ineffective, but to at least have something so it's not so neutering to GF. It's frustrating, I almost didn't want to play the match when 3 people in a swf had the perk equipped, I couldn't even use my power the way it was intended.
Remember how you were concerned with how Legion was to Survivors when they were released? Why isn't the same factor being considered when GhostFace is going against all of these seemingly impossible odds? It doesn't seem like good game design to me.
Please, do something.. anything about this perk.
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I'm remembering the devs said they were looking into detection perks, so there's still hope~
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Honestly alls they really need to do is make ghostface immune to aura reading perks/addons in night shroud, i think thatd fix the problem.
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They're looking into it yeah. I think the only change needed for all stealth killers is to be immune to OoO when they're in their stealth mode, like t1 Myers. So cloaked Wraith, crouched Amanda, shroud GF, etc.
Spine Chill and Premonition shouldn't be touched though.
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Ghostygoo should tunnel the OoO and literally camp them if you need to. Teach them a lesson.
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I made a suggestion here: https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/70215/survivor-perk-change-list
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Agreed. This is a serious issue and being abused heavily
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What Ghostface has done is bring Object of Obsession into the spotlight and shown what a devastatingly powerful tool it is. This is actually a perk I was hoping would never see play by good survivors on mass. The amount of information this perk gives coupled with map design will set you up for a guaranteed miserable experience. If multiple decent survivors run it? Holy #########, get me out.
Darn.
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tsk tsk tsk, always something. cant wait for the killer perk that makes survivors start in the dying state. but seriously, the range for how far away you can stalk, and how far i can break you out of your power, is actually huge, and if you used it to your advantage you would do better. i like how object hasnt been useful forever and now that it is useful im hearing "nerf nerf nerf" yet noeds cool, yet wiggling on the shoulder is useless because everyone runs agitation, or iron grasp, i cant run because your 115, pallets are useless with enduring/spirit fury, windows are useless because half of them are in terrible positions and you cant, fast vault a large amount of windows, because you cant get enough room to both not take a hit, and get the fast fault, so they might as well as be useless, dont forgot to mention you can run a offering that makes you only need to do half the work as normal then press m1 and people die, wish survivors only had to do 2 1/2 gens......... but hey, im just a low life, toxic, survivor, who enjoys killers sometimes, because i can actually get 4ks and pip, guess some people are just bad at this game.
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Have a good day. Thanks for contributing.
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This is a joke right? You seriously have to be kidding me. Why not just get rid of all our perks? Been doing a good job of that anyway. So ridiculous.... "it's hard"... "it's frustrating".
On a side note, I will be using this perk from now on, thanks for the tip!
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This is gold!!
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stop playing GF for a little bit...he just got released and everyone knows everyone is using GF so they will use that perk. Just like calm spirit is doctor's hard counter, what are the odds everyone will use this perk after the GF release dies down. People need to be patient and stop freaking out as soon as something is released because everyone is trying to hard counter the new character everyone is using....it's common sense
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You want some fries with that salt??? Mmm
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the true hard counter to GF is premonition. I've been running it with urban evasion and the only time GF has seen me is when I want to be seen or to save someone from being downed.....I'm surprised people haven't started complaining that Premonition shouldn't detect GF if he's stalking, which would make premonition a useless perk if it didn't detect stealth killers because it would basically be the same as the terror radius
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Best thing to do would be to make it not display the aura of a Killer when they are using a stealth power. Including the Pig crouching and Wraith in Cloak.
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Nothing has to be done with it. It reveals pig and wraith aswell but noone complained about it. And now, out of the sudden OoO is an issue? It's only an issue because everyone plays ghostface atm and therfore everyone uses OoO. Once the ghostface hype dropped and people play more Nurse and Billy again they will feel very uncomfortable using OoO like they did previously and drop that perk.
People are creating a bubble that OoO is an issue but it's just a side effect of the new chapter wait a bit and the problem gets solved by itself.
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I asked peanits on discord if they're gonna make GF immune to OoO while in stealth and he said probably not. His quote "At the end of the day, that's what it's for. If we just make him immune to perks like that, then there's basically to reason to take it."
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Object is fun. Learn to play around it.
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Once the GF hype dies out you'll encounter it less. Still sucks that of fully counters him but I suppose there's not much to be done about it. I understand where they're coming from with regards to not wanting to make it useless but it does feel like a double standard
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OoO just hard counters so many killers it's not even funny. Most games I don't even want to play whenever I see the survivors aura at the beginning of the match.
Nevermind how much information it gives to players in swf...
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It hasn't even been a week yet...in sorry but these fixes aren't instant.
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Okay, I'm going to address alot of your replies.
Typically, I'm not one to complain about everything and anything in this game. I understand there's a difference of being outplayed.
HOWEVER, I've made a post a week ago specifically saying Laurie Strodes Perks were overall unhealthy for this game. Because of the fact they're so powerful, they seemed to have been created with the solo Survivor in mind, hence why they're so effective. The problem is there are solos and there are SWF's. The perk by itself isn't harmful but coupled with swf it is devastating.
Moreover, the perk has always been a problem it's not just now becoming an issue. If you look into any swf matches, it's among the most used perks.
Regarding GF, The very big issue is this: Creating a stealth Killer in a game where stealth is no longer warranted. There are aura perks, Survivors run about sprinting and bumrush hooks. The majority of Survivors aren't immersed or hiding anymore because they are in the power role unfortunately.
So to have a SINGULAR perk completely nullify a killers entire power is alarming to say the least.
For those suggesting I shouldn't play him right now, that is unacceptable. People should want to play a licensed new killer within the release week or 2. And with how fast OoO was found to be extremely detrimental to a Killer completely reliant on stealth, that should send red flags that either the perk or the killer needs to be adjusted and looked at. Which one is going to change?
@Peanits please, I'm not asking you nerf the perk into the ground. But give it a cooldown at LEAST. If what the user that recently commented above me was true about how that's it's intended function, then what about the killer entire power? Am I not intended to use the power simply because of an unhealthy perk? Look into this please.
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I, for one, Have been sick of OoO since I learned that it revealed Wraith while he's cloaked. It's also particularly harmful to Pig because they can see her crouching, and Hag because they can see where she's setting her traps, and if they have a flashlight they just go around erasing all of her hard work. Same goes for Trapper, except they don't even need the flashlight. I believe that OoO shouldn't affect stealth killers when they use their abilities to enter stealth mode. As for poor Hag and trapper, it sucks but they aren't stealth killers and I can't think of anything that could be done to OoO except to drop its range which would pretty much make it useless. Another Possibility would be to make OoO only reveal the killers aura when the killer is looking in your direction, which of course also reveals your own aura to the killer, but at least then the killer could have some form of counter-play when survivors are using it.
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If I am ghostface I straight up camp anyone running OoO out the match, end of story.
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I don't camp them, Instead I've been bringing in Mori's whenever I play GF, and if a survivor is using OoO they just paint a big ol' mori target on themselves.
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Some perks counter certain killers thats just the way it is. Just like calm spirit vs doctor and iron will vs spirit.
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the difference is ghostface has his power taken away from him and cant use it for 20 seconds.
iron will doesnt take away spirits ability to phase.
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Exactly! But honestly OoO has its pros and cons because you see them as well ya know hha
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I mean every GF player camps and tunnels anyway...at least this way they get a target to chase down right away?
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You shouldnt be able to see him with OoO when he's in stealth mode. Just like tier 1 Myers. No f-ing clue why they didnt implement that
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Just make Night Shroud stop all aura reading like EW1 Myers. DONE
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What about those ridiculous add ons that cause "exhausted" status? You take away our power but it's all fun and games until you're not winning.
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######### guys
Excuse me, but Premonition already doesn't work against crouching GF and if you get your way, half of survivor perks will be useless. Why don't we take away survivor perks as a class, eh?
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Killer: uses BBQ and chili and get points for "survivor found''. You can't tell me that's ridiculous.
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The perk needs a complete rework, it's horribly designed and bad for the game
- completely destroys any stealth killer powers
- if any survivor in SWF has it, all of the SWF survivors get the effect for free
- the correct counterplay is to tunnel anyone who has it but doing that will get you death threats spammed on your Steam profile if that is public, or in the postgame chat if you are smart and set it to private
Want to play stealthy? There's already lots of perks for that, Object Of Obsession isn't needed. Want to help other survivors in a chase, for example with flashlights? Run Bond / Empathy. Object Of Obsession isn't needed and not healthy for the game
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Wraith also gets ######### by it. And Pig crouch. And any future killer with some sort of stealth ability
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Oh NOW we want to look at OoO. Not when all the pigs had issues with it.....
Lol.
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It that’s the pros and cons of OoO, that’s the point haha if you risk using that perk then you should keep in mind that you’ll probably get tunneled and the killer will want you out of the game first.
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Roll omega nurse simple.
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What people don't understand is that this works on all killers with 0 Terror Radius, Wraith and Pig have both had this issue for years, but no one brought it up because no one runs Object until GhostFace. So I see no issue in the perk. If someone has object go after someone else, or get up and stab them twice.
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Idk that a very select few add-ons for 3-4 particular killers negating 1 perk is equate to 1 perk fully disabling a killers entire power.
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OoO is an issue now? What a time to be alive.
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Since you didn't give an opinion of what to change your comment means nothing.
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I propose there be a cooldown to how often you can see the aura of the killer.
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I think it's a good solution + a good green mori .
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I think the game should start with all 4 survivors in chains and have to wiggle out and start the game injured and broken with ruin being normal gen repair and perks all have a 3 minute cooldown. Also BBQ should be built in with every killer and cut the maps in half. Give survivors 1% speed increase while injured and disable running period. That way it's fair and every killer can 4k every game in under a minute and nobody plays survivor anymore essentially killing the game. OoO is only problematic with well organized SWF and even then it's counterable, just get rid of them first. Anytime I ever used that perk it was a suicide mission almost immediately. Nerf BBQ so it only shows auras the first 3 hooks like distortion. lol
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Why are you responding to an irrelevant thread
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