No Tunneling Challenge
I was wondering if you can play at red rank without some sort of tunneling/focus down some survivors.
I would like to give out a challenge.
Play with any killer and you are only allowed to hook a survivor again, when every other survivor was hooked before. So you cannot hook a survivor without booking the other 3 before.
If would like to hear your experience.
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This sounds pretty aweful... I can understand not tunneling off the hook and lettin the guy get more than 3 feet away, but not being able to hook the brightly colored Nea who insists on flashlight clicky clicky, just because you havent found the Claudette who is currently one with a bush...
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That's why it's called a challenge.
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Pretty easy to do so IMO, I understand tunnelling at red ranks when using a weaker killer but I've never been able to figure out why people don't just play a different killer at red ranks. I understand that people will want to play their favourite character but you don't HAVE to play that character. To get back on topic with stronger killers this challenge isn't all too difficult.
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I wonder if survivors could play like this.
Not tunneling gens. Every time the killer kicks a gen, the survivors can't touch it unless it's completely regressed.
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Clip it or it didn't happen.
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Nice try little survivor in disguise, back to the hook you go! "Challenge" ha!
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That would be a very extreme definition of tunneling, to be perfectly fair. You're not tunneling if you hook a guy, hook two other people and then chase the first again.
I haven't done that, since that's going way past not tunneling, but I have played in red ranks without tunneling fairly recently. Shortly after the Legion rework, I played Legion with no ruin without tunneling and did about as well as could be expected. I won some, I lost some. I'm not sure if the VODs are still saved at this point, but I was streaming the whole time.
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RIP I assumed you just meant like general tunnelling, there's no way you could do THAT at high ranks even with PC Nurse. It's easy to do it without tunnelling as in going after someone that just got unhooked but going for survivors in a specific order? No way in hell that ANYONE could do that.
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That is an extreme definition of tunneling.
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90% of players has failed this challenge
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It absolutely depends on which players you are facing. Normally, you shouldn't be able to win, but we know that "red rank" doesn't have to mean "good players". If the survivors aren't good, you can always win, of course.
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Can you add 60s count down every time survival is unhooked above his icon? I would like to tunnel and I am tired using my mobile phone…
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This is the Playstyle you have to adapt to for red ranks since everyone runs decisive.
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Am I the only Legion player who doesnt camp nor tunnel at rank 1 without ruin?
ok
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Can it be done? Yes. Should it be done? No. Red Ranks is where killer time management needs to be fully optimized or survivors will just steamroll through their objective and bully you once they see your playing with this challenge limiter on. You'd also really be limiting what killers you have to play. Unless they it was going to be Nurse or Spirit there wouldn't be any reason to try this.
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I've tried to avoid tunnelling for a long time last year. Eventually, I gave up trying to be nice as Survivors didn't give a damn. Give them a hand, they'll take the entire arm attached to it too.
Nowadays I play efficient, and doing that means getting rid of Survivors as quickly as possible to diminish their combined strength as early on in the game as possible and tunnelling is the best tool for that as there is simply not enough time to hook all Survivors one or two times before you go about sacrificing any of them.
It depends a bit on the Killer, but if I don't tunnel the ######### out of Survivors as Freddy, Wraith, Clown or Legion, I will get my ######### handed to me, and each time I digress from that and try giving them some lenience, I pay dearly for it, confirming my observation, that tunnelling is very efficient as a playstyle.
I know, Survivors don't consider it fun, and neither do I when I'm on the receiving end, but I don't scream bloody murder about it. I know it's efficient, so I accept it, albeit begrudgingly, as a tunnelled Survivor.
And honestly, Survivors show time and time again, that they don't care in the slightest about my fun as Killer, so why should I care about theirs? Correct, I shouldn't.
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That sounds less like a challenge and more of a tedious waste of time.
The amount of map pressure you lose by doing that is ridiculous.
You might as well just play Amanda or ghostface and Crouch by the gen with the survivors and just pay pretend like you're helping them.
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As a survivor main.this is pretty much how I play killer.granted i usually only play killer to do dailies And am only around 10-12 killer rank.I actually only try to hook everyone and not get kills.I get good bp usually around 20k.everyone gets chased,injured and hooked.I think its hilarious when I do encounter those survivors that don't realize I'm not a killer main and play hard on me taunting looping and flash lighting.
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If someone makes braindead stupid save, i'm exploiting that. Stop making stupid plays and most of tunneling will disapear.
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Challenge Rejected
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Is English not your first language? You can't tunnel gens.
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@fluffymareep I understand the concept of tunneling as going for the same objective and ignoring everything else until said objective is done. Since tunneling isn't really a word, not everyone might understand this concept equally. Many people think it's just about killers ignoring other survivors until the tunneled survivor is dead. But essentially this can also applied to gens. Since killing survivors is an objective for the killer as repairing gens is a objective for survivors.
Since you asked, English is my fourth language.
I hope I answered your question.
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Be careful what you wish for not tunneling gens can actually be pretty effective surprisingly
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Not touching a regressing gen until it's fully regressed?
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This is definitely going to require further explanation.
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Of course people are going to touch a gen if it's regressing but it actually helps your emblems and sometimes your game if you don't "tunnel" gens by switching gens and getting them up to about 50% you increase the amount of gens the killer has to patrol while making the game longer for points.
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You know when you get tunnel vision? You see one person and one person only. For instance people could be running around you, but you wouldn't see them. I believe that's where it comes from. You can't tunnel something you're doing half heartedly, so survivors can't tunnel gens unless they're fighting with the killer over a certain gen (they keep returning to it, despite having other options), but that usually leads in vulnerability or death, especially if done early on when many gens need to be done. Additionally when you get down to three generators, returning top any of them wouldn't be considered "tunneling" unless you would also consider not giving hatch to be tunneling.
Tunneling is weird in this context because it is a chasing interaction and you can't change a gen that doesn't move.
Also by your logic, any action with survivor is considered tunneling. Not touching a regressing gen, regardless of if it's one you keep returning to, isn't the same as tunneling down someone relentlessly. It isn't the same as following one survivor without paying mind to any of the others or returning to them repeatedly (even while in another chase where you'll likely get a down) to finish them off or at least try to.
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Tunneling is weird in this context because it is a chasing interaction and you can't change a gen that doesn't move.
Also I wanted to add that "tunneling" is (I believe) an action verb, so it just creates a massive dissonance when paired with something that can create action and something that cannot. I wanted to edit to add that, but the site is being really slow for me for some reason and froze my browser when I tried to edit.
I didn't mean anything rude by asking if English wasn't your first language. I was trying to figure out what your intent was. I wasn't sure if killers were trying to patronize survivors by basically mimicking what they were complaining about word for word, but then replacing a part with something nonsensical to imply what they're complaining about makes no sense, too.
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Imo, it's only tunneling if the killer is returning to a fresh unhook and proceeds to chase down the unhooked person. If you find them later, it doesn't count. You proabably shouldn't be returning to an unhooking unless you can't find anyone, then it's worth checking out. I find that people working on objectives are always more important to pressure, though. I typically try to play the way you describe, though it's very hard to focus on both keeping up pressure and keeping track of what hook everyone's on.
I know this is kinda unnecessary, but I wish they made an indicator when someone is down that showed if they were on death hook or not. Sometimes I don't want to kill anyone and I accidentally kill someone.
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The word tunneling is made up thought. You won't find it in a dictionary, unless you use the urban dictionary... and there you'll be up for a surprise!
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Excatly, we need to find a name for this "toxic" practice :D
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Samee if I see chicken scratches don't complain bout it. It your team members fault for leaving them
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Tunneling is not super efficient with Legion (in my experience)
I still have success with them using Thana and applying pressure. (Doesn't always work tho)
(Btw ,I think you forgot to update the Legion wiki. It says their stun is 3 seconds,but it is 4)
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Dont tunnel in Red and be a potato killer. I promise you'll get more than 1k.
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