Being camped to death and tunneled off hook isn't exactly fun

Also plenty do care. It's easy to forget the good and focus on the bad. It may seems as though survivors don't "care," but I'm sure some have done things to demonstrate they do and either you didn't notice or didn't realize it. Or maybe you did see it and just chose to focus on the negative. It's a really easy thing to do.

I'm rank 6. I'm not sure how people who face camp people got up to the higher ranks since the pip system is supposedly supposed to help against that, but I dunno. I'm in the lower ranks as killer and I don't camp people. The most I do is patrol if everyone's obvious and nearby. Their name was "Monster," though, and they had something taunting people he camps/tunnels in his description. I've had so many killers just like that. It's hard to say they aren't doing it on purpose when they do stuff like that.

@Mister_Holdout I've seen so many people doing it, I doubt it's as rare as you think.

Oh, yes. There's a lot of perks to "help" solo survivors. Too bad it's being addressed with perks to essentially make solo players so much weaker than SWF who not only have communication and coordination, but also get to choose their teammates. Of all the times I've put on Kindred, I don't think it's helped me out once, too. People will still charge at the hook or leave you to second stage on it. Bond is just all around helpful. I bring it, regardless. It's good information.

I disagree. Survivors having more information wouldn't be an issue because the killer could just get buffs and so on to make up for it. It would also help Killers against SWF, too, if they're put on the same level and killers are given buffs to address both. While solo, it doesn't matter if you're a good survivor, either. If you ever get down, you're putting your life in someone else's hands. DS may help, but it only helps once and no one's willing to block for others, even while full health. Someone surviving doesn't always translate to them being good, same with someone pipping and most people get pulled up with SWF, I think, where the communication is easier and the coordination is better.

The killer face camping me with a trolly name isn't because he was being expedient. He was giving survivors a bad time and being toxic. His only goal is probably to make someone feel bad in the same way as those smurfs who bully newer killers or the SWF death squad all with insta-heals (though you can at least bring Franky's for that). It may not be against the rules, but it's still really annoying to come across and makes for unfun experiences that are likely to drive people away. I've come across too many killers who have this sort of thing going for them and it's frustrating. They're only playing to give people bad games, going by their profile and how they act in game and I don't remember seeing it to this degree before, making me believe it's gotten worse.

Survivor can be hard or vexing because you're depending on a team and the killer not camping or tunneling. Survivor is team play (solo with strangers while lacking communication), while Killer is solo play. You don't have to hope the other survivors aren't picking their nose in the corner while you're being chased and don't have to worry about your them going down super quick or people farming each other. I've literally had games where I saved nearly everyone and died on first hook 'cause two people were on gens and one person was being chased. It has nothing to do with being the first one down and more to do with hoping the other survivors will be good enough to save you. It can be annoying to run into annoying survivors, but solos have to deal with annoying SWF who don't feel like saving the random (good or at all) AND killers who have it out for you 'cause you decided to play survivor. Bond is better btw. One-shots counter Empathy's sight and a lot of time people are running the killer for a bit before they get hit. If they accidentally sandbag you while you're on a gen, you're out positioned and the killer will often switch to you.

I'm not talking about the killer being annoyed or the killer seeing no one doing gens and deciding to stay nearby while trying to catch them out. I'm talking about killers whose sole purpose is to ruin someone's game and they express that in their profiles and everything. People who find people who've done nothing to them and face camp them because it's Friday or you're playing a Dwight. Being toxic just cause they feel like it. They had ruin up and no gens done. They had no reason to do this. This didn't happen so much in the past and I think it reflects the health of the game and the type of people staying.

Okay, but your perk build doesn't change that you have to rely on your team and the killer playing nicely to have a good/"easy" experience and that was your initial argument that was kind of related to what I was talking about. I'm trying to explain how it can be difficult and you're telling me what build you use. xD My perks fit my playstyle and you shouldn't stick to a determined set since it can make you complacent and can make you bored.

@Heroiq I can understand the reactionary sort of camping/tunneling. It's just the them being toxic and trolly sort that I don't understand. It wasn't around as much in the past, so I'm not sure if it's a testament to the game's health or who's deciding to stay around.

I understand you can expect some people to be selfish and not want to go for the save, but people in the higher ranks (if given the information) possibly would. There would be a higher percentage that would, at least, I would think. You don't even have to have Kindred level detail. Like if the survivor can see the killer, others can. Otherwise they can't. I don't think seeing auras while the person is on hook would hurt that much, either. It's the killer aura reading that's the strong park of that perk.

Your point is true. I hope if they do make ranking matter, they can introduce a casual mode for people who don't feel like dealing with it at the moment or have a tiered mode where people are facing what they have (so green against green, purple against purple, and so on). I don't think the people who are trying to ruin people's games are doing so to rank up, though, and possibly more of a way of protest? They don't usually stick around to talk.

I think there should be a punishment for casual, too. Your first response shouldn't be rage quitting in a sticky situation.

Well, I had someone slug me on the ground and hit me back down every time someone got me up. I doubt they were doing that to rank up. I don't think all (even most) bad behaviors are linked to ranking up.

Yeah, usually when I see a killer brought in a BPS, I'll farm at the end if they do poorly. I also let the killer kill me, too, though if I feel they did well and just happened not to kill anyone or if I want to given them a kill end game. I honestly think pointless camping/toxicity comes from frustrations, though I couldn't be too sure.