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In Defense of Prayer Beads
Y'all just hate it cause it reliably kills you.
I've seen and been apart of too many high rank games where the vacuum noise just telegraphs her arrival, allowing the survivors and easy evade before she pops up.
Nurse teleports. She arrived in unexpected places without warning and that's balanced. So why is it unbalanced for Spirit?
I apologize that I want to stomp on survivors who would loop me to filth, flashlight stun me until I'm dead, and in general, not show me the respect that they demand from killers. I will stop running prayer beads practically every game when survivors stop being little [BAD WORD]s but until then, I will use them without remorse and relish the gameplay they allow me to have.
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Beads + Necklace, Omega Blink, and 5-Blink are the 3 most powerful builds in the game. Each one needs a nerf.
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all i read was "i'm bad at killer and want free wins"
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hehehe 😈 sure
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Nurse requires prolly 50 hours to get decent at. Using Prayer Beads on Spirit requires nothing so its viewed as cheap. As it is.
Only people I use Prayer Beads against are people that are blocked in MLGA. I also acknowledge that there are potentially 3 innocent survivors in same game and I dont blame them for DC'ing vs something that they have no way to outplay.
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Don't worry nerf hammer will reach your broken spirit in some future .
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I hope they don't get rid of prayer beads, It's one of the few things in the game left that can actually get experienced players scared. I do think they should make it an ultra rare though.
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Every killer in some way has a counter to there power. Using prayer beads removes this counter. You can counter a 5 blink nurse or an instant saw Billy if you play right, but how can you counter prayer beads?
Also miaasmas comment has 8 up votes where he calls you bad for the way you play while you have got 0.
So you can shut the ######### up thinking you're good in any way.
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You counter Prayer Beads by gen-tapping, running Iron Will, and praying.
Not really a counter per se...
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Praying.. lol
But it is true. This addon is way too strong. But you can change it from "nobody hears the phrasing sound" too "everyone hears the phrasing sound".
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That would solve the "problem" in higher ranks but destroy the lower rank survivors who leave the gen whenever they hear a heartbeat or killer reveal sound.
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@theplaggg Remember that the killer would also be lower rank in that situation. Meaning they’re not going use it as optimally as a higher rank.
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lmao i dont think im good. see, i like going against fellow rank 1s and 2s and changing the game for them. every other killer obeys the survivors rules and the survivor is always able to outplay the killer if they know what they are doing. i dont like that. so i run prayer beads so i have the upper hand, not them. im in the power role, not them. this game is balanced so people want to play survivor. i dont like that balance and I have the option to remove it with an add on so i use it. please explain to me why on Earth would i want to be countered?
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@NurseMainBTW In all honesty, survivors will just run the crutch perks anyway, since they have no idea if it's omega blink nurse or if it's a commando Freddy
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You're probably bad without prayer beads. It's ok, we'll keep your secret.
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So I was going to make an argument why prayer beads are bad, but after reading the comments here, it looks like you were more interested in an argument than a debate.
Please enjoy your games and thanks for the useless feedback and thread.
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Spirit has a whole has zero counterplay, it's not just the beads.
The only way you survive a spirit is if she sucks and sounds are bugged, otherwise she wins every chases.
She's the least interactive killer in the game, worse than old Legion and yet people defend her alot.
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I mean if you need prayer beads to get kills then sorry to say it you suck at Spirit.
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Cool, even if that was the case, I would still play her. Why would I care about how the survivors feel? Why would I care about skill? Spirit pretty and I get to live out my ghost fantasies, the more op the more fun the better!!!
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? Why are you going on a tantrum and answering stuff i didn't even said, insecurities much ?
Play her if you want, use whatever add-on as well, I don't care what you do, I'm just giving my opinion.
Btw skill wise she does require skill to some extent.
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Agreed. Though it's difficult to play against, it's also makes great jump scares.
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Why would i want to play chess vs an oponnent who has the same ammount of pieces then i do? Its way more fun playing vs someone who starts with nothing but his king, because its all about me winning and not having a decent gaming experience, right?
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If you have bad internet, forget even trying Nurse.
If you can't change up your game during a match, don't bother trying Nurse... Good survivors know how to change up their jukes to keep you guessing.
Nurse is all about muscle memory in blink timing.
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I honesty see nothing wrong with this add-on. I like not knowing where she is. Personally for me it makes the match even more horrifying. I think players are use to having information given to them.
The only nerf I can see to this add-on is making it ultra rare or disabling the ability to instant grab. Other than that I’m fine with how this add-on currently is.
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You assume I want to be "playing a game". Yes, it is a game, people play it, but I don't want to be participating in chess. I want to lean back and relax and stomp on little zhits as a ghost in a horror movie setting. It's fun and lmao, it's in the game and there is still a playerbase, I honestly don't care about the survivors fun. They don't care about mine or other killers or even eachother and caring doesn't rank me up, give me cosmetics, or make the game more enjoyable. Lmao trying to paint me as a cheat or an abuser, swessy, no!
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@Iceman The big problem with Prayer Beads are the free grabs. If the Spirit had some kind of stun after coming out of a silent Prayer-Beads-phasewalk, that would be okay. I'd prefer to simply give Prayer Beads a smaller range of sound emission, like it was before the add-on got changed to how it is now.
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Sorry but saying someone "sucks" because they are using a game mechanic is silly. If it's there to grab, why not utilize it?
To the point, maybe as others say it would be better if it was that everyone would hear the phasing sound, instead of one person. I play Spirit at rank 7, and it's sometimes ridiculous on how potent and siding the game can turn to become.
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The only story you tell us here is that you have no empathy with anyone else, in that case with the survivors. And you seem to not understand that "beeing a survivor" is no personal attack . I think you are simply playing the wrong game. Maybe a singleplayer Horror Game might be a better choice for you? idk
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Am I the only person who realizes, that if you use a decent headset, you can actually hear the spirit's feet walking towards you when she phases with the beads? It completely takes away her element of surprise.
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Why? There is no single player horror game where you get to be the ghost. And even if there was, you wouldn't be scaring real people. And wrong game? Omg fam oh no, DBD is like, THE game. It isn't a shooter, it is a horror game, and it actually allows the killer to be dangerous and scary and difficult to play against. Friday? Oof, horrible in game feeling control and mechanic wise, plus Jason boring. Dying Light? Zombies are so underpowered, boring, and the game doesn't focus on that aspect of the game anyway. And then what else..... Oh yea. There is no other asymmetrical horror game. Sad, so sad.
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And.. here... we... go....
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I like it as a survivor, the lack of warning and paranoia attribute to the genre of the game. The unknown right before a killer pops out and gets their target is a staple and one of the best parts of horror. I would much rather be caught by surprise than see the killer coming a mile away and they refuse to abandon chase till a down or escape is made.
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Reasons not to get rid of prayer beads
Man i wish i could read
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I have my sound up pretty loud and with the footsteps fixed, I can hear Spirit's steps while she's phasing, so gen and totem grabs are honestly out of the picture for seasoned players.
Does she deserve a free hit? That I dunno.
But one should consider that Prayer Beads is her real Ultra Rare item (so maybe Father's Glasses and Beads should swap rarities), which deserve the huge advantage. I don't find them any more ridiculous than Iridescent Hatchets or Judith's Tombstone.
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keep in mind that other sounds make noise (say, generators) and that footsteps sound different on different maps. you'll hear a spirit more clearly on swamp than you might on a macmillan map, and you probably won't hear her on any map when you're doing a generator, which is why getting gen grabs is so easy with prayer beads
"just gen tap" is such bad advice it's a meme
plenty of things are scary to unpracticed players, and to experienced players prayer beads aren't scary, they're just annoying. my response to a prayer beads spirit consists of heaving a sigh, followed by dcing from the game because playing against that addon is a waste of time. the fact that it's been in the game for as long as it has is remarkable, and the only purpose it serves is to feed the egos of people like the OP who you'd never want to run into while playing a mutliplayer game
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well, with the dc punishments coming soon, i will be rewarded for your unwillingness. furthermore, i play at red ranks and i barely get any dcs so lmao, you're the odd one out. get gud sis bish
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well, there's a lot of broken things in this games. Iri heads, prayer beads, instaheals, moris...
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that's probably because everyone who would DC on you has you MLGA blocked
you're already rewarded by DCs, people getting punished for it won't impact you at all, it'll just impact them. and hopefully prayer beads will be addressed by the time that happens. people like you are an excellent argument for why it shouldn't be in the game
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Eventually, they should all be changed to be more engaging to play with and against.
None of those things add to the game for the better when in excess. Just like old DS, MoM, BNP, etc.
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@miaasma good, i hope they do lmao. also, your logic legit is, "you shouldn't be able to have this add on because you enjoy using it and therefore run it." lmao, cutie
@sairek ahahahahahaha oki sure, when the devs suddenly change their mind on how they want the game to play, they will change prayer beads. but they won't cause lmao, they like the killer being powerful. no other game allows the power role to actually pose a threat. this one does. why? cause people got tired of games where only the survivors get to stomp.
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Nurse comes out of nowhere but gets stunned. Not prayer beads
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my logic is that you enjoy making people's experiences miserable by running uncounterable, boring addons that shouldn't be in the game, and double down on how ######### it is for the other side as a positive for yourself
the fact that people like you can get some weird enjoyment out of something that unequivocally ruins this game for other people is a great reason for it to not exist
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The addon isn't that common to get, its just the most commonly chosen to use. Its just sad that other survivors whom can genuinely be considered experienced react with tantrum quits rather then overcome the challenge for a more satisfying victory. Its like escaping and then you see a red mori for their offering, overcoming that advantage and others like it keep matches from being repetitively stale.
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Overpowered add ons have no place in this game.
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said what dev?
lmao fam, its not because it makes it unfun for the other side (have had multiple people message me and say it was fun) but because i have always enjoyed scaring people. not in real life cause that's weird, but with media. horror movies, horror games, its just enjoyable. i enjoy getting jump scared. i yelp and then laugh because my heart picked up the pass and i genuinely was frightened.
and in dbd, the jumpscare queen is prayer beads spirit. ive gotten so good at them. i can hear uninjured players when im just phasing around, allowing me to pop up and hit them without warning. gen grabs and fast chases are something im able to pull of consistantly but it is those out of nowhere hits that make me live. I like to imagine the other side has fun with getting startled unexpectedly but i know that isnt the case.
I play super fair because I use the add-ons. I never camp, I never tunnel, and i make sure that if i do down someone who has been hooked just previously, i allow them to use their d-strike. so i do kinda respect the other side. but i will not stop using prayer beads. i will not stop using moris. i will not stop using bbq and chili and noed and surveillance and devour hope and ruin and whatever it is that i want to run. they are in the game. im allowed to use them and so i shall cause they are fun.
i feel powerful when playing the spirit. i feel in control. i enjoy that. a little too much info but i have trauma related to the loss of control, being unable to do anything, trapped, caged. the spirit helps me with that. its a game but still. its empowering for me. so i wont stop.
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prayer beads is like, the number one most hated killer addon since frank's mixtape for pre-rework legion. anyone who understands this game understands why it's bad for the game. i know there are people who exist who enjoy it because it jumpscares them, but most people who play this game enjoy outplaying the other side, and there's no outplaying a prayer beads spirit, no matter how many times people talk about how you can hear her footsteps like 2 whole seconds before she comes out of phase and hits you. people might get immediately startled when you come out of nowhere and grab them off a gen, but the takeaway feeling is one of frustration, not one of genuine horror (because aside from startling moments this game stops being scary to people after about 100 hours tops), unless you're the fringe minority who doesn't care that they're dying to something they had no chance of playing against because it was ScArY
you feel powerful playing the spirit for all the wrong reasons and i'm glad it gives you personal satisfaction but it makes games against you totally unbearable no matter how fair you play and i'm glad i'm unlikely to ever encounter you in-game. hopefully prayer beads gets reworked soon so people like you have to actually learn how to outplay survivors, but until then, enjoy your free gens grabs and hits
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i doubt it'll change. honestly, idk if this is true but i just feel like it is and i normally have a great intuition, but i feel that when "the phase walker" was being created, there was no whoosh noise and there wasnt supposed to be. but then they added it cause silence is strong. but they kept it as an add-on so it could still be in the game. ya know, the ol' nerf the killers power so its meh to yuck for base kit so that way, you can have strong add-ons at higher rarities.
but if they do change it, i have lots of success with the one that makes you go a mile when coming out of phase. im not infront of the game rn to know so forgive me. but uh, yea. lunging with that when popping up, yikes, you go around the length of a killer shack dimension give or take in like, a second. its so good for loops and just catching up. even without beads, im a nasty spirit and i have commitment to this killer. i would learn how to be just as horrible without beads but as of right now, I will feast upon my babies prayers. we really enjoy those "free hits"
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idk if the OP knows this but prayer beads did not initially remove the phasing sound, it just made it quieter. this version of prayer beads was a more recent development. kind of throws a hole in the "she was meant to be played this way" theory but whatevs
also, calling spirit's base kit "meh" is positively ascended
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I actually dont see anything here worse than any other thread. So I actually cant imagine why. Close the thread maybe but banned outright?
The #########.
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