What's the deal with this new SWF-free ladder system I keep seeing people mention?
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It's a suggestion that people want.
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It seems that because they will never remove SWF, they want it removed from ranked play. Basically put SWF into a room by itself where NO Killer will roam. It would be the same as giving the Killer the option to opt out of SWF. Which would be akin to removing SWF altogether.
I think, they think if they word "Please remove SWF" differently, it will have an effect.
So basically I would guess there is no SWF FREE anything planned.
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Cheaters have no business in a ranked game.
QUe SWF excuses now:
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Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..8 -
@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Yet another person telling Killers to just suck it up and play, regardless of the stacked deck.
People playing with their friends really isn't a big deal at all, its the COMMS they use that takes it from friends sharing a match , to a coordinated attack on the Killer, and all his secrets and actions are shared to remove aspect of his enjoyment of the game.
The problem is .. no bitching = no fix for whats causing the bitching. Concerns about what makes the game hell for a large portion of the population should be discussed.
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@Outland said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Yet another person telling Killers to just suck it up and play, regardless of the stacked deck.
People playing with their friends really isn't a big deal at all, its the COMMS they use that takes it from friends sharing a match , to a coordinated attack on the Killer, and all his secrets and actions are shared to remove aspect of his enjoyment of the game.
The problem is .. no bitching = no fix for whats causing the bitching. Concerns about what makes the game hell for a large portion of the population should be discussed.
Just five solo comms. Then nerf survivors EZ FIX
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..I know giving feedback in a place officially created for feedback by the devs ... how dare us REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Even just an idicator who is grouped. Idc about 2 duos of swf but I may dodge 4 mans. If they don't like getting dodged, grab a 5th and play KYF
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IF people by chance all come in at the same time the killer STILL backs out..Idk how many times I was playing solo but got put in at the same time as everyone else and they thought we were swf..I honestly don't see the big deal lol...When I play killer I suck it up I dont back out or rage quit.
Ive played at game where everyone had flashlights..where they all had toolboxes..
IMO playing swf either makes you better as a killer or it breaks you and you dont wanna play..
Ill say what every killer tells me..
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@SenzuDuck said:
@Might_Oakk said:
Even just an idicator who is grouped. Idc about 2 duos of swf but I may dodge 4 mans. If they don't like getting dodged, grab a 5th and play KYFOr just suck it up and be a better killer. Theres hundreds of people who stream this game as killer and never DC because it;s scummy.
I'm certain you just convinced all dodgers to not dodge anymore.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Please solely play killer and come back with this statement a few days later.
k thx.0 -
@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..To be fair, the forums are for voicing anything to do with the game, including complaints. And certain aspects of the game are worth bringing up. The issue isn't that people are playing with friends, it's that comms provide a huge advantage over the killer and that should be brought to attention and a possible solution should be found. If the devs didn't want our opinion, they would never have made these forums in the first place, so I don't think leaving them to do what they do is necessarily what they want anyway.
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@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Its a big deal for killers. If you only play survivor, you wont understand though
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@MrsMaliciousX @SenzuDuck
So not only do you need perks, not only do you need items, you also need voice comms (an outside 3rd party program) to help you win. Yet you’re telling Killers to “Git Gud”. Bit hypocritical, don’t you think?0 -
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@ZombieGenesis said:
Check his posting history, SenzuDuck is the biggest hyprocrit on these forums.How is he a hypocrite?
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Here's the thing tho..
I used to be survivor main...now I may play survivor for a couple games then I'm back to killer..but if you remove swf there goes ALOT of the games population. I get the comms are annoying af but it's part of the game for now. And they really wouldn't be able to do anything unless they work something out with Sony..as for PC that is out of the devs hands...lol what are they gonna do try to shut down discord and ts? There are some things they can fix and some they can't. As I said I've been playing more killer than survivor lately swf or not I still get 2-4 kills a game..there are days I get none and guess what that's my own damn fault no one else's. I choose to chase someone to long or I wasn't paying attention to certain things..yes killers job is to kill but they can't not and shouldn't not win every single game..cause then we'll it would be completely not be worth playing if people didn't leave.
I've been told to get good over stupid ######### like them camping and me bitching but in the end I got caught lol or in the end I got my ass handed to me as a killer. They fix one problem just to have people yelling at them to fix another..chill out0 -
Jesya said:
@MrsMaliciousX said:
Why is there always someone crying about something? I really don't get it at all lol.
So people like to play with their friends..Whats the big deal? All you hear is cry cry cry ######### ######### #########...people just need to stop take a breath and let the devs do what they do..Please solely play killer and come back with this statement a few days later.
k thx.I've been soley playing killer...am I saying I don't get pissed and start screaming or swearing no because I do...but im not gonna get on a thread and ######### and cry about swf when I know that I need to work on my skills..everyone lacks them somewhere no one is a good at this game and if you think that then why are you crying over swf lol. As I said in previous posts I get the comm is annoying but I think they would have to have some type of talk with Sony to be able to do it. So as of right now you have a couple choices
Suck it up and try harder
Play survivor
Lobby Doge.........*eye roll*
Or play a different game lol
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Congratulations. You’re one of very few who don’t use voice comms. However the vast majority do. What does you playing a hell of a lot of Killer and not dodging lobbies have to do with that by the way?SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
@MrsMaliciousX @SenzuDuck
So not only do you need perks, not only do you need items, you also need voice comms (an outside 3rd party program) to help you win. Yet you’re telling Killers to “Git Gud”. Bit hypocritical, don’t you think?This would imply I use voice coms (I don't, by the way) Also play a heck of a lot of killer and never dodge lobbies.
Just because you don’t, doesn’t justify the allowance of the unbalanced mess of those that do.0 -
Obvious meme’s about “Killers wanting to win every game.” Look, if you want to play SWF fine. Until it’s balanced, they get put in a separate que or Killers at least get an indicator showing how many are in a SWF. I couldn’t give two shits facing a team of two, or two teams of two. It’s the 4 man SWF “Navy Seal Team 6” Squads I’m not playing.MrsMaliciousX said:Here's the thing tho..
I used to be survivor main...now I may play survivor for a couple games then I'm back to killer..but if you remove swf there goes ALOT of the games population. I get the comms are annoying af but it's part of the game for now. And they really wouldn't be able to do anything unless they work something out with Sony..as for PC that is out of the devs hands...lol what are they gonna do try to shut down discord and ts? There are some things they can fix and some they can't. As I said I've been playing more killer than survivor lately swf or not I still get 2-4 kills a game..there are days I get none and guess what that's my own damn fault no one else's. I choose to chase someone to long or I wasn't paying attention to certain things..yes killers job is to kill but they can't not and shouldn't not win every single game..cause then we'll it would be completely not be worth playing if people didn't leave.
I've been told to get good over stupid ######### like them camping and me bitching but in the end I got caught lol or in the end I got my ass handed to me as a killer. They fix one problem just to have people yelling at them to fix another..chill out0 -
If Behavior removes SWF... DBD is dead!
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Sure, i’ll just take your word for that you “just that good.” I don’t care how well you do. It’s still an advantage the game is not balanced for. Might as well just accept hackers while we’re at it. I mean, they are just using a third party program for an advantage, right? What’s the big deal?SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
So not only do you need perks, not only do you need items, you also need voice comms (an outside 3rd party program) to help you win. Yet you’re telling Killers to “Git Gud”. Bit hypocritical, don’t you think?
This would imply I use voice coms (I don't, by the way) Also play a heck of a lot of killer and never dodge lobbies.
Congratulations. You’re one of very few who don’t use voice comms. However the vast majority do. What does you playing a hell of a lot of Killer and not dodging lobbies have to do with that by the way?
Just because you don’t, doesn’t justify the allowance of the unbalanced mess of those that do.
Because I do just fine without comms, it isn't the problem.
I do just fine against teams that are 4-Man flashlight wielding, body- blocking com using teams. Just become a better killer and stop whining.
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Nice meme with “4K ever game”. You’re correct, Killer should average 2K/3K. You do realize that most Kills come from stupid altruistic plays by the Survivors *after* they have already won and powered all the Gens and opened the gate. They just CANT leave that one guy who got caught at the end to die.SenzuDuck said:@ZombieGenesis said:
They will most certainly never get rid of SWF (and they shouldn't, this is 2018...we play games with our friends online something some of us have been doing since 1995 so...) And they are unlikely to show killers what players are linked via SWF for the lobby dodging reasons. What they need to do is find a way to balance the game so that the advantage of SWF isn't so great. A mean feat given that a large chunk of this game was designed without thinking about SWF. I think for the solo survivor things like the new Deja Vu and Dark Sense will be a big help.I disagree, the SWF portion came out a month after the game came out. they've had plenty of time to rework ideas since then. Killers want to 4K every game when they should be AVERAGE 2/3K every game.
Getting a 4K isn't a win, it's a domination. Winning is pipping which is what you'd get with 2/3 kills.
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swf will not be in the ladder.
hilarious that all these salty rank 20ish survivor mains are upset about the change because they had convinced themselves that they were good players by using their comms crutch.
inb4 “this ladder is a joke if i cant swf, i quit”0 -
Except they do know where the Killer is 24/7. “You hear the heart beat? Yeah, he’s by me.” Ta-Da. One knows where Ruin is, all know where Ruin is. One sees you set a trap, everyone knows where that trap is.SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:
@SovererignKing said: @MrsMaliciousX @SenzuDuck So not only do you need perks, not only do you need items, you also need voice comms (an outside 3rd party program) to help you win. Yet you’re telling Killers to “Git Gud”. Bit hypocritical, don’t you think? This would imply I use voice coms (I don't, by the way) Also play a heck of a lot of killer and never dodge lobbies. Congratulations. You’re one of very few who don’t use voice comms. However the vast majority do. What does you playing a hell of a lot of Killer and not dodging lobbies have to do with that by the way?
Just because you don’t, doesn’t justify the allowance of the unbalanced mess of those that do.
Because I do just fine without comms, it isn't the problem.
I do just fine against teams that are 4-Man flashlight wielding, body- blocking com using teams. Just become a better killer and stop whining.
Sure, i’ll just take your word for that you “just that good.” I don’t care how well you do. It’s still an advantage the game is not balanced for. Might as well just accept hackers while we’re at it. I mean, they are just using a third party program for an advantage, right? What’s the big deal?
Implying chatting to your mates the same as speed hacking, and knowing where the killer is 24/7.
If you think SWF is akin to this no wonder they constantly nerf survivors when killers think SWF is basically speed hacks, LOL.
Fact of the matter is : It doesn’t matter what you think of it. Voice comms is an outside third party program that gives Survivors, and their team a significant advantage. Deal with it. You’re just being ignorant at this point.
Hell, SWF even without comms is an advantage. You’re making absolutely sure your playing with other players you know are good. That you KNOW their play style synergies well with your own. You’re eliminating the chance of getting a dud team mate(s).
Perks (perk coordination as well), items, no bad team mates, voice comms. Seriously, how much do you need to stack the deck in your favor in order to win?0 -
I am all for it, swf should be for kyf and casual games not for ranked match.
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Can we ban voice chat BHVR?
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@ChraizE said:
I am all for it, swf should be for kyf and casual games not for ranked match.Implying ranked matches aren't casual.
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lol i love how salty this kid is. he sees that he wont be able to play in the ladder without his crutch, so hes lashing out with the hilarious argument of “but but but if they cant detect and ban for it, it should be allowed! who cares if its an unintended unfair advantage!”Mc_Harty said:Can we ban voice chat BHVR?
git gud
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@Lowbei said:
lol i love how salty this kid is. he sees that he wont be able to play in the ladder without his crutch, so hes lashing out with the hilarious argument of “but but but if they cant detect and ban for it, it should be allowed! who cares if its an unintended unfair advantage!”git gud
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haha theres literally 4 pages of you raging about this same issue last night on another thread. hilarious that you got embarrassed and are now doing a 180 into “i was only joking” territory.Mc_Harty said:@Lowbei said:
lol i love how salty this kid is. he sees that he wont be able to play in the ladder without his crutch, so hes lashing out with the hilarious argument of “but but but if they cant detect and ban for it, it should be allowed! who cares if its an unintended unfair advantage!”git gud
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@Lowbei said:
haha theres literally 4 pages of you raging about this same issue last night on another thread. hilarious that you got embarrassed and are now doing a 180 into “i was only joking” territory.bravo lol
Because me disagreeing that voice chat is cheating is the same as me raging.... of course.
And my comment in this thread was clearly sarcastic.
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funny that its the same statement you made numerous times in the other thread for multiple pages, but its suddenly sarcasm when you say the same thing here? lol no. you got embarrassed and are backtracking. no worries. just git gud at solo and you wont have a problem.Mc_Harty said:@Lowbei said:
haha theres literally 4 pages of you raging about this same issue last night on another thread. hilarious that you got embarrassed and are now doing a 180 into “i was only joking” territory.bravo lol
Because me disagreeing that voice chat is cheating is the same as me raging.... of course.
And my comment in this thread was clearly sarcastic.
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@Lowbei said:
funny that its the same statement you made numerous times in the other thread for multiple pages, but its suddenly sarcasm when you say the same thing here?Nice, that you think that's funny considering that other thread you misquoted other posters. Now that was ######### hilarious.
Also sorry your triggered at my joke in this thread. I'll highlight it in a neon sigh next time so you can understand the sarcasm.
Oh and voice coms isn't cheating. Unless you can prove that BHVR has blacklisted Steam chat kek.
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Damn this thread is juicy0
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@ThePloopz said:
Damn this thread is juicyOrange juice or Apple juice?
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lol irony that you got all triggered about a misquote, and even more funny that both you and the one who was misquoted then spent hours crying about it.Mc_Harty said:@Lowbei said:
funny that its the same statement you made numerous times in the other thread for multiple pages, but its suddenly sarcasm when you say the same thing here?Nice, that you think that's funny considering that other thread you misquoted other posters. Now that was [BAD WORD] hilarious.
Also sorry your triggered at my joke in this thread. I'll highlight it in a neon sigh next time so you can understand the sarcasm.
Oh and voice coms isn't cheating. Unless you can prove that BHVR has blacklisted Steam chat kek.
again, its really funny to see you backtracking into “oh i was jk, i hope nobody remembers me raging about the same thing for pages last night.”
you got rekt. gg. feel free to watch my videos to learn how to play, so you dont have to ragequit once the ladder is released. dont forget to follow!
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Lol Orange of course. Get that garbage Apple juice outta hereMc_Harty said:@ThePloopz said:
Damn this thread is juicyOrange juice or Apple juice?
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@Lowbei said:
lol irony that you got all triggered about a misquote, and even more funny that both you and the one who was misquoted then spent hours crying about it.The only one triggered here is you mate. You brought up that other thread because you thought my joke was serious.
again, its really funny to see you backtracking into “oh i was jk, i hope nobody remembers me raging about the same thing for pages last night.”
Like you do in every post?
you got rekt. gg. feel free to watch my videos to learn how to play, so you dont have to ragequit once the ladder is released. dont forget to follow!
Why should I take a living joke seriously?
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lol scrub keep backtracking. if you are still butthurt about this later, feel free to post on my wallMc_Harty said:@Lowbei said:
lol irony that you got all triggered about a misquote, and even more funny that both you and the one who was misquoted then spent hours crying about it.The only one triggered here is you mate. You brought up that other thread because you thought my joke was serious.
again, its really funny to see you backtracking into “oh i was jk, i hope nobody remembers me raging about the same thing for pages last night.”
Like you do in every post?
you got rekt. gg. feel free to watch my videos to learn how to play, so you dont have to ragequit once the ladder is released. dont forget to follow!
Why should I take a living joke seriously?
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That’s called imbalance. You don’t call a game balanced based on one side doing something optional after they’ve already won. You don’t balance an asymmetrical game based on one side literally dicking around.SenzuDuck said:@SovererignKing said:
SenzuDuck said:@ZombieGenesis said:
They will most certainly never get rid of SWF (and they shouldn't, this is 2018...we play games with our friends online something some of us have been doing since 1995 so...) And they are unlikely to show killers what players are linked via SWF for the lobby dodging reasons. What they need to do is find a way to balance the game so that the advantage of SWF isn't so great. A mean feat given that a large chunk of this game was designed without thinking about SWF. I think for the solo survivor things like the new Deja Vu and Dark Sense will be a big help.
I disagree, the SWF portion came out a month after the game came out. they've had plenty of time to rework ideas since then. Killers want to 4K every game when they should be AVERAGE 2/3K every game.
Getting a 4K isn't a win, it's a domination. Winning is pipping which is what you'd get with 2/3 kills.
Nice meme with “4K ever game”. You’re correct, Killer should average 2K/3K. You do realize that most Kills come from stupid altruistic plays by the Survivors after they have already won and powered all the Gens and opened the gate. They just CANT leave that one guy who got caught at the end to die.
and? If that's how survivor play that's how they play.
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So if a group of swf is all rank 1 and the killer is rank 1 besides the talking how is that still unacceptable?
They all got to rank one lol so what's the big deal I'd agree if the rank 4-5 or whatever was swf with rank 20s heat to bully the killer but most swf are the same rank. Now I'm not saying it's all just "get good' but you have to change your play style or you'll always be bitching. Like u said in other posts I get about 2-4 kills a game.. Sometimes I only get one do I get mad um yeah but it's a game... Not real life..I found that if you just go in with a I don't care attitude you have more fun... Could just be me tho0
