Why aren't enough people playing survivor?

Low to mid ranks killer ques are horrible while in red ranks they are instant. I hope next patch gives people incentive to play more survivor as they are able to gain bp much easier.

I'm not convinced there is a lack of survivors/too many killers as the matchmaking always took a hard hit every time they changed it to the new one.

Having saying that, the fact that killers were all given as many Grusome Gateaux as they could eat would certainly swing the player base towards playing killer.

It doesn't take many to move over to create a large imbalance.

20k players so you need 4k killer and 16k survivor.

If as little as 200 survivors move over to play killer that means you need 1000 more survivors. 800 to match with them and 200 to make up for those who switched over. Thats 5% of the playerbase due to a small amount moving over.

There isn't a quick fix for someone switching roles as it may be due to a multitude of reasons. Maybe its the gameplay, grind, too easy or hard for them, boredom of that role etc.

I would imagine it's mostly because solo survivor can be rough, and most high rank killers compensate for high level, coordinated survivors by default to be safe (I'm guilty of it).

That being said, you don't need to run meta stuff to succeed as a solo survivor. I usually reach purple/red ranks with some combination of OoO, Head On, Quick and Quiet, DS, Unbreakable, Tenacity, and Stake Out. Survivor is more about playing smart and knowing where pallets and windows are than anything else. It's not so much a mechanical skill thing and more of a decision making thing, and I don't mean that in a negative way.

People complain that survivors have been nerfed, and maybe they have, but it was necessary and in no way prohibits solo survivors from succeeding with off-meta meme perks at high ranks. Compare that with a killer trying to do the same at red ranks and the result will often be very different. Survivor is still comparatively easy and way more chill, in my opinion.

That's a good attitude on it - a lot of sweaty killers could use that as well.

Killer takes a long time to que in low ranks because more people play them at those ranks, as you go up in ranks killer ques get shorter. So when rank resets happen it takes awhile for things to improve.

Both sides complain and cry a lot.

It's because Survivor get's dull for many people as someone who has played both sides I have been going towards the killer role more often because holding m1 on a generator for so many years has gotten dull and boring for me. While as killers have different powers and many different playstyles and if I get bored of one I can just play a different killer.

Well, with random lag spikes and hitboxes you have also to fight as killer. They are actual "fair" and annoy both sites :).

Because the game has started to be balanced around decent survivor-level play, Red rank survivors arnt the ones complaining, the bad ones are.

If you are having a tough time playing survivor, perhaps try to get better? I don't even mean that in a condesceding way, the game takes a long time to learn and the mechanics actually fool you into thinking you are skilled, when you are not.

Most survivors are actually trash, you only need to play a few games of killer at rank reset or at anything below rank 5 to see this, taking stupid routes, using pallets early, making dumb saves or no saves at all, a bizare complete shutdown of any attempt to do gens with ruin.

This does 2 things, it pushes new survivor players to either play killer, or quit, killer is hard but if yuo are trying to farm bloodpoints even a bad game still gets you a good return, when if you are new/trash you are going to end most games with 3-5k points as survivor.

There really insnt a solution, the game used to be balanced around rank 20 survivors, and as a result the decent players could utterly dominate any killer they came across with near perfect results, it wasn't everyone, but the good players at Rank 1 set the standard for what the game should be, everyone else either needs to get to that level of skill, or whine and complain about it.

Well, being survivor means you need to team work, you can be good but if your team don't want to work like one then you most likely will loss. I don't think I am a great survivor but can entertain a killer for a minute, sometimes more. A good team would do gens or clean totems but in the meanwhile most of them are with Urban Evasion.

I understand your point @ToastfaceKilla but as a solo you can be good, but you can't hold all the teamwork in your back. You still need to do gens in order to power the exit gates. I remember in rank 20 when I fist bought the game, even if the players didn't know how to play, they tried to unhook, tried to fix even if they fail so it was easier as you knew a teammate would likely try to save you.

Survivor is not a competition as much people can think, survivor is about team work but now some survs just don't do gens or anything to progress in the match (and now you have a tutorial, wich is more than I had the previous year so they start a match knowing how to play), you're good if there is only one that actually helps you.

People can say any reason like killer is more fun, holding M1 is boring, bad teammates and so on but real reason are Bloodpoints.

If BP gain for survivors per match was increased and WGLF got some buffs with qol changes everyone would play only survivor since in high ranks they are the less frustrating role to play.

"The simplest solution is most likely the right one." - More commonly known as [ Occam's Razor ] :

Because Killer is easy-mode.

Anyone who says otherwise is either in denial or outright lying in order to protect their easy life from nerf.

Survivor is boring...

Seriously, what is fun about it?

No variance in builds, they are just reskins, most of the perks are complete garbage and have little to no affect.

Solo survivor is a pain in the ass cause 90% of the time I have to depend on complete meatheads, even at rank 1. But if I go play with some friends, it's somehow toxic, whether or not we are actually being toxic. Generally, we just want to play the game while talking to each other, but again, comms are toxic cause communication is OP, cause blah blah blah. God forbid.

Personally, I don't give a crap if they use comms or not, it's a multiplayer game, where friends can party, what do you expect to happen?

That is all