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Can we stop the "Survs won, Nurse is dead" posts already?
They are going to look into her add-ons and maybe slight basekit (from what others say) and people are going nuts saying she's dead when, in fact, we haven't seen anything about her changes yet. People even be comparing it to old ptb release Freddy (which is a valid point as he was nerfed before people got used to him) and Legion who's power had no counterplay and was extremely unfun to go against. Especially the old Frank's Mixtape.
In all honesty, I'm looking forward to how they handle the Nurse instead of going wayyy far on one scale saying she's doomed to die. They did the same with Trapper and Hag before and they're better because of those changes!
It's best to wait and see what the changes are BEFORE saying she's dead. Y'all overreact too much to something we have no info about
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I agree...
Im honestly surprised at the way moderators don’t simply close threads that have 0 constructive criticism, offer no feedback (which in essence there shouldn’t be any feedback because we haven’t even seen what they are doing).
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I am glad Nurae's addons are changed and she won't be getting a nerf. That thread about Nurse was too long and too negative, devs should close any threads that come to that point. :/
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People are still feeling the sting over the neutering they gave Legion. So, when they say even 'minor nerfs' to Nurse's base kit, it sets off alarm bells.
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I just kinda laugh at everyones knee jerk reactions on every little change. Everytime someone sees that theres a change, they immediately jump to the conclusion that its a nerf making something unusable. Saw a thread earlier of someone freaking out over a "nerf" to infectious fright, in which everyone responded by telling them it was ACTUALLY a buff...
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That thread aside, can you really blame people for drawing conclusions from three years and god knows how many patches worth of experience?
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Everyone involved in legion rework should leave the team...
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Survivors utterly defeated us killers, legion is now boring and with no personality. It's rework, even if fair, made legion into something pointless, I would have liked something fair and still fun.
Nurse is next, then you'll go after spirit.
What else do you want?
You guys managed to get the only real threat nerfed and you also expect us to shut up and say nothing?
You won, once again. Now let us express our sadness
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Just hit em with the “git gud.”
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Can we stop threads about "stop posting about x" too?
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Yes we have won this battle, but the war is not over. We will not stop until every killer is nerfed into the ground, including new Freddy! We will make you killers rue the day you ever decided to enter the fog. We will get payback for every survivor who’s ever been facecamped, tunneled, slugged, hooked, killed, sacrificed, hit with NOED or even looked at wrong. Just you wait the worst is yet to come, SURVIVORS RISE UP!
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What most not understand is, it was never us vs them.
Right now we have 3 "factions" in the game solo survivors, SWFs and killers. But that's not true. We all can play and do play in every faction, we just gravitate towards one or another.
What is complained about is, that some ignorant players rather cry the devs a river until they get drowned by salt and water and they cave in. (Happen before with Freddy and other releases) Instead investing the time, playing the culprit character for themselves, learn how they work and develop counterplay. And each time the devs cave in aka "lost to salty survivors" the game gets worse and less enjoyable. It's understandable that some passionate players like to defend their favorite killer (especially if it is the only universal viable one with a high skill ceiling. They spend a lot of time learning her.)
Since the game launched there is a longing for alternatives to gens from all players, yet non is delivered or changed. Without arguing hiding and chasing are the exciting elements of the game, yet the entire game revolves around to cut it out. As a killer you don't want long extensive chases or searching for a survivor, because you are on a clock. Even as survivors, yes it's fun to loop a killer or sneak past one, but in the end you just buy some time and hope your team is doing worthwhile, because in the end you only win by completing gens.
SWFs are a big factor in the joy for many and the ruin of joy for many others. Solos and killers alike. On one hand it is unfair to have access to so much more information and simply by chosing to use it, reducing the viable perks and tactics a killer can use. Every thread so far that spoke in favor to give all survivors the same information as SWFs was unanimously shut down with the same reasoning. It would be too powerful, easy and would rob the fun for some solo players. But this disconnection causes every month SWFs are cheating threads to pop up, as new players get confronted anew with them. It should never be an attack on the friendship of some or their desire to play with each other, but acknowledge the information and power imbalance. There is a difference, yes over all it may be just slightly but in the edge chases it really has an impact. Just put yourself in the shoes of a new player, loves killers and survivors alike and suddenly run into a red rank, 2 purple and a yellow rank survivor, all in the same SWFs, and suddenly his game is turned upside down. As a mid rank green killer he suddenly is facing survivors way out of his league and gets frustrated by the lack of options he has available to counter them. Yes, git gut can apply here, and eventually he would become good. But if he hits the wall so hard, that he just throw up his arms and just walks away from the game, he never get to the point. It's like a hobby runner has to compete with some top athletes. All of a sudden he gets outrun and left behind. Is he bad? Not for his level, but it still feels ######### and may discourage from trying harder.
DS was a perks that was toxic for 3 years until it was nerfed. It is still a strong Perk. What I don't understand is, why weeks after the DS nerf they shipped Ashe with MoM. This perk should never had left the design board. The devs should have learned from DS and come up with an other perk. Thankfully they didn't wait 3 years this time, but still it's unfair to all the buyers of MoM.
In my opinion the devs should even out the gap between SWFs and solos by giving the solos the option to access the same information. If someone enjoys hard mode, more power to you my friend. But the game as a whole can get adjusted and be more fair and fun, as well challenging for everyone.
Most killers just need some minor tweaks to become viable and enjoyable to play as or against. You can use the search function of the forum to see plethora of post and suggestions.
One of my personal wishes always was a rework of the bloodweb, so the game is less grindy and more accessable for new players. Who doesn't want the game to grow?
In the end we are one community, playing the same game and caring so much, that we take time out of our lives to read and make a post to express our opinions and feelings. Yes you don't have to agree with, but don't be an ass and dismiss it.
If you don't care, move on.
If it's wrong, help them to understand and speak truth.
If you enjoy, share the happiness.
See you in the fog!
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You are right, but the devs themselves have clearly defined how to get what you want in dbd, see this for yourself.
Now survivors know precisely what to do to get a nerf, it is game over
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Exactly.
People need to stop to always make it a survivor vs killer thing and also read the threads because most of the times even we killer mains complained about Nurse. Its super healthy for the game to nerf nurse and to buff the other killers like doc and leatherface like they announced it but people dont see it because they feel personal attacked or whatever when devs nerf "their side"
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Patches that nerfed and buffed both sides?
:/
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False equivalency. If Self-Care was nerfed to be 49% speed, but Unrelenting was reverted to what it used to be (9%), those two nerfs would not be equivalent in any way.
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Why is it so difficult for you to acknowledge that in order to compare nerfs and buffs, you need to have a look at the quality and not the quantity of them?
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Instead of worrying about this we should try and find a way for poor green ranks like me to stop running into goddamn red rank swf twink squads. #########'s driving me crazy.
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Silence is compliance.
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@Cymer This was cute and wholesome. Thank you.
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Killers are the only hard biased side in the forum. They only cry. You never see any ideas that take the whole game balance into consideration. sorry, buts thats a sad fact.
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Can we please stop with the "survivor mains always cry" "Killer cry all the time" comments? Most PEOPLE on these forums aren't sad people like that.
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What i said is a fact. Killers always cry about anything survivors get, cry about anything thats has to be changed for killers and always want only OP things for themselves. That what 99% of the killer main posts are about. And this IS sad.
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Well, oof, I have been stabbed =.=
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If people think Nurse range + extra blink addons are balanced then I seriously have no idea what to say.
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Killers are the only ones who have discussions which take a holistic approach to game-balance. You'll find it's survivors almost exclusively who frame balance in terms of 'specific X feature neets specific Y change' without regard to the knock-on impacts of it.
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Agreed. Seeing people trying to defend quintuple blink nurse/two extra range add ons makes me kinda sad. Those are nowhere near balanced.
Other than that, a vast majority of her add ons are almost useless (or not worth it to use because the drawback is too much.) Those will most likely be buffed/reworked entirely so we’ll see more variety with her add ons.
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If you see it that way, that it's really that bad.. then why do you keep playing? Why keep posting here? I just don't understand. I see so many people say "I'm so done with this game, the devs are ruining it, I'm not playing anymore! ...oh but I'll still come to the forum to 'check in' once in a while" .. which really ends up translating to "I'm going to throw a temper tantrum, not post for a week and then come back to complain every single day." It blows my mind.
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Now come on, you know the drama queens need their daily fix 😉
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Because people LOVE drama and LOVE complaining. Being angry is the new trendy form of entertainment nowadays.
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Copypasta?
The average playerbase of the game is extremely one-sided and can't see nuance on anything, That's especially true for this game because of its asymetrical nature.
It's very hard to have constructive opinions in this game without playing both sides, and most people don't. And even some who do are still biased because they like one side more. The Nurse issue is actually one of the things that some killer mains were complaining about, and in my experience, if killer mains complain about a killer-specific issue being too strong it's because it's legit busted.
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And because the average playerbase is extremely one-sided, the only whay you have for your voice is to be loud. It's a devils circle.
It's sad, but that's how the things running. Besides, this thread isn't better as any "nerf killer X", or "nerf survivor perk Y" thread.
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I've literally never done any of those things. I stick around because I hope the devs will make the gameplay more fun.
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