Could we get some anti cry-baby forum moderation?
So many posts on these forums are nothing more than players whining about anything and everything they disagree with. Nurse getting nerfed? Gonna go to the forums and cry about it. Just died to NOED? Better run to the forums and whine about how it only rewards bad killers. Don't like the Freddy rework? Let's all cry on the forums about it! It's actually pretty depressing.
There are ways to bring up legitimate discussion about the current state of the game without coming across as a whiny ######### and yet the general discussion forums are flooded on a daily basis with players doing nothing but whining about it.
On occasion there will be a thread where someone actually takes the time to put together a well thought out explanation as to what they disagree with and might even submit suggestions on how things could be changed for the better. And even if I don't agree with these posters all the time, I can at least respect their forum behavior. However, lately these people seem to either be in short supply or are simply overshadowed by the sheer number of forum babies crying about the latest thing they want to complain about.
I'd love to see more strict forum moderation. If someone is going to act like a child throwing a tantrum on the forums because things don't meet their ideal expectations, they should be treated like a child throwing a tantrum and be put in time-out. Short term suspensions and temporary bans could go a long way in cleaning up the forums of this trash and bringing up the overall quality of the average discussion.
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Do you see the irony of your post?
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Nah, we don't need more moderation. We need smarter people.
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This is an open forum and people are free to discuss what they feel needs to be discussed at any given time as long as it is not breaking our forum rules.
We totally respect people's rights to complain at times and to feel frustrated at things they are not happy with - and we would never censor someone for their opinion unless they were being rude or insulting in their post. Sometimes people are frustrated and then their posts are mostly rants etc, we totally understand that and do not wish to ban people who feel the need to express themselves in that way.
In an ideal world every single post would be constructive, but sometimes people feel the need to just rant - quite often those threads do turn around and positive discussion comes out of it. Sometimes it doesn't - sometimes the thread is locked by ourselves or often deleted by the OP.
However, timing out and banning people because they are upset at something but posting within our guidelines is not something that we would be happy about doing. The advantage with a forum, is you don't have to read all the threads that you personally don't agree with.
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and we would never censor someone for their opinion unless they were being rude or insulting in their post.
[ x ] Doubt
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@TheBean While I haven't been active enough to agree or disagree, I'm fairly certain the doubt is directed at the "never censor someone unless they're being rude" part. As in they're doubting that they don't censor other things, not that they do censor those things.
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@MandyTalk I think it would be good if you guys could consolidate some threads because it is literally the same topic being discussed over and over, and actually nothing really being discussed but people just complaining.
I understand that people don't have to read what they see, but for me I always check the first page because I am normally just glancing at the forums while at work etc. so it's not so much that these are "complaint" threads, but literally like 5-7 of the same topic and sometimes even with the same people.
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Yeah I agree with this. The board very quickly becomes flooded 5 topics about NOED, 3 about Nurse, 4 about DS, etc. I think there should be a rant section of the forum and unless your post includes constructive criticism or sincere attempts at solutions then your post should be moved to the rant section.
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@brokedownpalace Yup... and there might be a good thread where there is actual constructive criticism and ideas that can get discussed, drowned in all the other 'rant' threads.
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My second objective idea hardly got touched because of all the threads under the same topic. :/
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Nah it is just conspiracy dot com BS they are talking about.
Some people get their feathers in a ruffle cause they feel the mods and devs target certain conversations, which they have, and they have the right to do so. This is their forums, and if they don't wish to talk about certain subjects they have the right to censor them.
For example, with Ghostface, when they put out their dev build by accident, and people posted clips of it, they censored it for about an hour before they gave up and realized it was too late.
It isn't about a conspiracy against people here on the forums. They have the right to censor stuff as they see fit on their forums. So directing a foolish comment like that just makes that user look ignorant.
Especially when that particular user thought the Dev weren't handling reports, and put in a dummy report to have the Devs prove they actually read them. They need to take their tin foil hat off.
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Personally, I didn't touch it because I believe the devs have more than enough suggestions on the subject. Threads like that come up very often.
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That’s fair.
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Just look at how often you see the Jail Bars on users Avatars or the Banned nothing to see here move on Avatar. The mods deal with the posts/users that need to be dealt with in the way that follows the rules set up by the devs. I am a moderator for Eternal Crusade and Deathgarden for bE and trust me there are rules and discussions about posts all the time between the moderators and devs that you never see.
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If you are looking for reasonable behavior and maturity, you won't find them here. The mods enforce some behavior, but not all. They mainly focus on snowflake trigger words and send warnings. I've tried to have serious talks only to have someone be blatantly belligerent. I dare tell them to stop being the special kid in the room who wants the attention and try to add something useful to the debate like an adult and I get the mods breathing down my back.
I gave up trying to discuss anything intelligent at that point.
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Complaint about people complaining lol.
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consolidating threads would be fantastic. For example: When there's a new DLC there are 438972468237427 topics opened stating "my opinion on new killer" that clog the 1st page of general section.
I get they wanna be more laissez-faire but a bit of topic moderation/merging would help alot.
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You're suggesting I'm whining about whiners. You need to understand what whining is to see just why you're wrong. I'm addressing a problem and offering a solution. That's not whining. However, you and every single person that upvoted you on the other hand, not contributing anything to the discussion, are a glowing example of one of the many things that's currently wrong with these forums. Though, I shouldn't say I'm surprised. You see, this is the kind of crap I'm trying to minimize and stricter forum moderation would go a long ways in helping with that.
If what's currently going on is not against forum policy, it's time to change that policy.
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As long as they keep it civil - it's cathartic. Killers especially need the outlet being an isolated role otherwise.
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All these hot topic threads full of just arguing and disagreeing are over shadowing all the good threads (and my threads) like Freddy's hand effect. And it is annoying to keep on getting notifications on a thread that has turned into a warzone.
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I can confirm Mandy is telling the truth, even @Peanits came out, and said:
In any case, we wouldn't ban you for criticizing the game. Plenty of people do that on a daily basis without being banned. The key is constructive criticism. We can't do anything with "bad game, bad devs". If you let us know what it is you don't like, we can work with that and try to find a way to make it better.
Through, I can agree that whining without constructive feedback is annoying for sure.
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