Looping

@SuperiorityComplex said:
Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time. 

the point is exactly not to get found at all.

@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.

Nice delusiong person of the web.

@ChraizE said:

@pauloandrade22 said:

@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.

Nice delusiong person of the web.

Are you not aware of what's actually happening to Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur? dude stealth builds will be utterly useless.

i know and i disagree. bitter murmur will not replace BBQ, Nurses, ruin enduring.

And it will probably proc when you are far away as well too.
And tinkerer will not be good unless its activated at 80% and is longer too.

@pauloandrade22 said:

@ChraizE said:

@pauloandrade22 said:

@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.

Nice delusiong person of the web.

Are you not aware of what's actually happening to Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur? dude stealth builds will be utterly useless.

i know and i disagree. bitter murmur will not replace BBQ, Nurses, ruin enduring.

And it will probably proc when you are far away as well too.
And tinkerer will not be good unless its activated at 80% and is longer too.

Massive assumption there we will definitely disagree on this one. The meta will change once in play I am calling it now.

If only there was some way to fix the exploit that is "looping."

Imagine if killers could secure hooks just as fast as survivors can do gens.

Oh well, let's nerf stealth

Looping being h in the game for so long has turned the game into a meme ;3 

@Master said:

@ChraizE said:
BBQ Chilli + Nurses Calling + Gigantic incoming buffs for Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur. R.I.P stealth builds.

You cant have stealth as a viable mechanic in a game where a single survivor can loop you for the entire game

Stealth isn't a mechanic though...Do you know what a mechanic is?

I think this game is popular because you DON'T have to hide if you know what you're doing. You can play your game how you like and I prefer it this way.

Pallets and windows should be an opportunity for survivors to juke the killers and hide from them, not a tool for survivors to get to another pallet and window and loop the killer for eternity. However, map designs are not good enough for this. The only map that sort of fits this idea is lery's memorial institute.

The problem is that the devs intentionally want us to loop the killers and long chases. Just take a look at the 2 T walls with 2 windows in the coldwind farms and autoheaven. There are no good spots to hide but if you try to loop the killer around those 2 T walls, you will steal at least 30 to 40 seconds. Naturally, survivors will always choose the best option that fits themselves.

Devs should try to rank up and see the real problems in this game. There must be a hide and seek part of the game but at this current state, hiding is not a good strategy for a survivor so most people will not try to use it.

SuperiorityComplex said:

Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time. 

Looping wouldn't be too big of an issue if maps where way more bigger while not changing pallet numbers for every map. Let me demonstrate with let's say 20 pallets in a huge map. Since the map is really big, pallets will be way more spaced out compared to a smaller maps which can make finding other pallets a harder task. Currently survivors can loop one area but after the pallet is dropped or destroyed, the survivor can move on to the next loop. Now with bigger maps, survivors can loop one area but after the pallet is dropped or destroyed, the survivor will have a risk of getting hit since pallets are not harder to find. Stealth will now be a better option because finding a pallet is now inconsistent for the survivor side. Survivor: Win/Loss; Killer: Loss/Win
Balance theoretically ^^^

@Paddy4583 said:
It’s a chase game it was never designed for stealth the devs have said this countless times, the whole mechanic of the game sets you up for chasing and escaping. 

I wonder what time you started playing this game because it was not a gangbang loop simulator in 2016.

@SuperiorityComplex said:
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SovererignKing said:



SuperiorityComplex said:

Why is looping seen as such an crummy method of surviving by soo many killers? What other options to survivors have to survive? Most jukes don’t work against good killers, and if you do managed to break LOS and throw them off they usually find you again pretty quickly due to the loud crying. Looping is the only effective method survivors have to waste a killers time. 

Key word : “Good”. A Killer that is good at tracking their prey should be rewarded for being good. All looping does is negate a good Killers skill at finding and tracking. It turns the Survivors fail state of being found and chased into a win state. 

Survivor : Don’t get found, win. Get found, but loop the Killer for just long enough, still win.

Killer : Don’t find anyone, you lose. Find everyone easy, but get looped, you still lose.

Its literally punishing the Killer for doing exactly what he/she is supposed to do, find and chase Survivors. It’s a win/win for Survivors, lose/lose for Killers. Why would you not complain about being punished for doing exactly what you’re supposed to do? 

Okay but you completely disregard that certain killers have a way to completely negate stealth anyway. (Doctor, Freddy, Etc.) Not to mention all the buffs to the auras reading perks coming off the PTB and things like the need for altruism that force you to be risky and expose yourself to pip. 

Coming from a Jake main with 2200 hours, you can still stealth completely and pip.

Doctor and Freddy are not complete stealth ruiners. I sometimes get games where I never scream and are never seen, games where I never fall asleep. Games where I am found out once but never again. Games where I fall asleep but trick him with aura reading like he has BBQ.

Aura reading perks can be played around too.

The key to being good at stealth is not giving up the first chance you get. You've gotta believe in your ability to be sneaky and not lose hope just because it's Doctor. That's the way you get yourself killed in stealth. Persistence is huge, and even if you mess up, it'll teach you to stealth better the next time.

You’re right it is possible, but it’s no where near as rewarding as just looping, it buys way more time for your team and gets you way more blood points. This game doesn’t reward stealth play enough for it to ever be alone worth it. The example you gave for Freddy, and Doctor is extremely situational as I find most of time it’s imposible to hide from someone you can’t see or while screaming, and having auras say “ I AM HERE.” every couple of seconds. 

I agree stealth should be more rewarding points and emblem wise. There is an Evader emblem after all, not Looper.

I have every character where I want them so I take personal satisfaction in successfully hiding. But I definitely agree it should be more rewarded.