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Does anyone think that Legion just needs a new power then Frenzy?

Right now Legion just isn't that fun of a killer. His ability doesn't benefit him at all just borrowed time to survivors I hope they look into his ability and try to make him fun atleast.

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  • Mister_xD
    Mister_xD Member Posts: 7,669

    i do believe he should be next on the rework list.

    his power wont be fixed with some buffs, he needs a full on rework imo.

  • HatCreature
    HatCreature Member Posts: 3,298

    Easy fix---bring back the old vault speed and FF speed then give us back the OG FF duration since it's redundant that we'll be using Duration add-ons anyway.

    MY REWORK

    Legion has 4 different members, every member you're not playing is hiding in a locker. When the match starts you have no TR or Red Stain and you're not wearing a mask, in this state you cannot attack and can only attack when you activate Legion. You put on your mask and can now use your FF which will mostly be the same but with minor differences such as NO DEEP WOUNDS. Your FF attack will injure but NEVER DOWN, when you attack with FF you see the Auras of other Survivors instead of blood swirls. Now I said earlier you have 4 members so when you're ready you can switch to another member and step out of a locker and once again have no TR or Stain and can't attack, each member starts this way and can only use it once.

    Add-ons will be on hit with FF such as Mangled/hemorrhage, Blindness, Broken, Deep Wounds etc.

    With this change Legion finally has synergy with Iron Maiden, when someone gets hit with FF Survivors know they can see Auras and will hide in lockers.

    If Legion has NOED then they can switch to a member they haven't used yet and find Survivors near Exits then activate Legion and down them.

    Legion can still Vault and do everything they can now with better add-ons that actually do something, they feel like an actual Legion with a 4v4 every match and even if you don't have Susie and Joey then you switch between Frank and Julie twice instead.

  • Dreamnomad
    Dreamnomad Member Posts: 3,965

    Legion isn't completely ruined. A few changes and they would be in a good and balanced place. The suggestion that I like best is for Legion to have an extended frenzy duration and lower stun duration with each survivor hit. For example, frenzy duration extends by 2.5 seconds and stun duration decreases by .5 seconds for each survivor hit.

    So if Legion's base frenzy duration is 10 seconds and base stun is 4 seconds then if Legion successfully lands a frenzy hit on a survivor the frenzy duration resets to 12.5 seconds and when Legion cancels frenzy will be stunned for 3.5 seconds. Legion hits another survivor and duration is 15 seconds and stun is 3 seconds.

    All of that is just tweaking some numbers a bit, but would go a long, long way to increasing Legions viability.

  • xllxENIGMAxllx
    xllxENIGMAxllx Member Posts: 923

    No, I think frenzy is great he just proper change. FJSJ need the same MS speed as old legion with add-ons value buffed (cooldown add-ons make almost no difference).

    Here what i think will make legion great.

    • Revert his m/s to 132% while in frenzy(old legion speed).
    • Increase base duration of frenzy by 5s (To travel the map in frenzy)/ reduce the recovery time to 15s(old legion) while keeping the full gauge condition (new legion).
    • Rework frank's mix tape/Stab Wounds Study.
    • Rework Deep Wound or reduce the base timer to 10s instead of 30s. If you read legion stat survivor have to react fast or they will get downed if they don't react fast enough while keeping the anti moonwalk/TR exploit.
    • Make pins being applied with frenzy hit instead of killer instinct hit.
    • A slightly faster vault speed than now but slower than old legion.
    • Remove/reduce the gauge drain when hitting a survivor with a m1 attack.

    This Legion would be what he should be a mobile killer with an insane amount of pressure with counterplay.

  • Chickenchaser
    Chickenchaser Member Posts: 391

    I was thinking about this rework.


    Legion looks just like a survivor. Impossible to tell him apart from your team visually. Make him look just like one of the survivors, and even copy the username.

    He can teabage, flashlight click, and work on gens with other survivors. He even runs, grunts, and vaults the same way. He can't attack while he's pretending to be a survivor.

    Every gen that's finished the survivors legion has been close to become exposed for 20 seconds. Allowing legion to do a surprise attack. The buddy you trusted while doing gens with you just hooked you.

    Legion can pretend to work on a gen with other survivors, but he's secretly making it slower. If the gen gets to 50% the survivors working on that gen with legion become exposed. You'd have survivors stopping at 49% looking at each other suspiciously. Lol.

    He can look thru a chest just like a survivor, but he halfs the items durability when he finishes searching.

    He can hide in a locker just like a survivor, and burst out injuring any nearby survivor.

    Frenzy Is removed. He becomes a M1 killer that can mess with your head, and scare you to death when your friend turns out to be the killer.

  • PrincessPoop
    PrincessPoop Member Posts: 919

    I’ve always hated legions power because it’s boring and feels like wasted potential considering their backstory, and ya know... them being a LEGION. Let’s give a group of killers the power to... run really fast? And only play one at a time? Lame.

  • Milo
    Milo Member Posts: 7,383

    He doesn't need a full rework. Just a little tweaks and buffs here and there.

  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797

    I mean I would definitely take a new power over what they have now .

    I mean he can definitely have his current power repaired to BE useful.

    Like if you use feral frenzy and there's no survivors nearby you should get increased movement speed ...BECAUSE YOU'RE IN A FRENZY ,DUH.

    Otherwise you're normal speed in a chase.

    After legion applies applies deep wounds his stab lethality increases

    - first hit has to mend like normal

    -second hit is now blinded (can't see auras)

    -third hit has stabbed so deep that the 3rd survivor is bleeding out excessively. (Meaning some of the survivors bleedout timer has been taken off 1/4)

    Forth hit is an instant down (I hardly see legions get 4 hits so this should be more than rewarding and a great incentive)

  • Mellow7
    Mellow7 Member Posts: 793

    How to fix legion in a nutshell: Revert all the nerfs he got from his "rework" and tada

  • ItsYourBoyGuzma
    ItsYourBoyGuzma Member Posts: 797

    Yeah I was hoping for something like Hotline Miami where each mask (I guess in this case each member specialized in some sort of field)

    Runs faster/ vaults faster

    Has blindness built in with each stab

    Exhaustion hits

    Idk just something interesting

  • switch
    switch Member Posts: 489

    He needs an completely rework like freedy, his power is very bad, just a free hit and some informations, after that you're just a normal killer without power.

  • DBDbuildsYT
    DBDbuildsYT Member Posts: 1,042

    I agree complete rework, the old Legion was full of issues and they needed to change it, BUT the way they changed them was wrong, too many unnecessary nerfs that made the killer unfun to play, boring and weak.

    They need to redraw Legion completely, they messed them up and they need to give us a decent killer, not op, but viable and fun. See the new Freddy as an example, decently viable, with an interesting power