Nerf billy
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NO! He is one of the most balanced killers, and one of my favorites to play as AND against.
Leave.
Him.
Alone!
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Not the same thing. In those aforementioned topics, the majority of people agreed with them. Most people wanted those changes. Look at the responses in the nerf Billy topics that pop up. Most people are saying hell no to the idea of nerfing him.
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@Dwight_Fairfield Yes and I suspect its because Hillbilly is so devestating against newer players.
They could nerf instasaw, or they COULD give him some super powerful ultra-rares!
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But devs already said they only gonna change his add-ons and even most of the survivors mains I know don't have a problem to play against Billy.
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I agree nerf this meep meep hoodlum! if Legion and Freddy are nerfed, then billy should be too!
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I have my doubts, that we can talk here from "most", if we understand under "most", 100% of the playerbase.
I have make some experiences with survivors ingame and also heard some opinions from survivor ingame, that I have not read in this rate, on the forums and I would bet that we find more survivors who have never visit the dbd forums, as survivors in those forums.
Same also goes for killer players, I guess.
The point is... Don't think that the "most" people like to see something nerfed, just because the guys write here a nerf thread about the same topic, over and over again.
The survivors I have meet in the game as example, were not so whiney (mostly) as the ones I have meet here (don't take that please offensive, it is just meant to be a neutral information).
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Must not be nearly as often. Otherwise I wouldn't even have spoken.
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I'll be honest, Billy makes me shudder and cry a little inside, especially if he has ruin, because I know I'm in for a tough time.....
....If I'm not completely on the ball!
Yes Billy is tough, yes sometimes it feels like he's the roadrunner on crack, and yes, he can snowball you like no other...but it takes skill. See that billy turning the corner like a formula one car? That actually takes practice, his speed is an advantage, but if his player doesn't make the right adjustments, he's headbutting trees like nobodies business. If the survivor is good at tight loops and running into crowded with objects areas, its a royal pain to get through it and still keep that chainsaw revved.
I loose in a lot of Billy games, but the ones where I manage to get out by the skin of my teeth, the ones where I'm part of an amazing team save during the EGC...those are freaking rewarding as hell!
Maybe I'm weird, or maybe i just try really hard to be objective about both sides, but I'd take the wet-your-pants near misses and edge of your seat escapes against difficult killers, over skipping on out of the gates 8 out of ten matches any day.
You certainly don't have to agree with me, but personally i think he's pretty okay. I can't really comment on his addons as i haven't looked into them with any real depth, but i still love his zoom zoom...even if it does make me want to burrow into the dirt beneath me to get away.
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Here we go again with the complaining survs😂 and NOOOO cuz I main Billy and I'm actually really good with him I also play doc but Billy is my go to choice, if they would to Nerf Billy then honestly he'd be the bottom teir and not one of the best killers, also u can easily juke him when he is reving his chainsaw up and or running at u with it so u complaining tells us ur just not that good as u think so just leave Billy alone and ok play with someone else or start playing killer
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I had the worse time with Billy when I first started the game but it teaches u to be careful and when u see him get into a loop and find windows pallets so if he uses his chainsaw u can escape also when he uses his chainsaw he turn waaay to slow which gives yall a chance to do a juke on him, but when I started to main Billy ( i still play survs) I mastered him to the point that I'm not stupid and won't use my chainsaw if they are in a loop or if there is to many props in the way
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I know he is getting slaughtered in these comments😭😂 funny but hopefully the devs don't take this seriously
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Ur the first surv I've heard say this, thank u I really do like how u went into details, I really do wish more people were like this especially for being I Billy main myself I get alot of hate messages 😂 but there are times I get messages saying gg and ur good and that makes me smile so thank u kind person and I hope u win ur next match against a Billy main
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You are most welcome, a little objectivity goes a long way. Another reason I always promote playing both sides, even if its just practising in Kill your Friends. My friends and I actually spend a lot of time in KYF, trying out all the killers and different variations of survivor perks. It's a no pressure way to test things. I'm still horribly abysmal with billy, but that hasn't stopped me trying.
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I'm glad ur able to have fun 😊 especially with ur friends. Tips for Billy for add ons get his spark plug and vegetable oil or if u have the spike boots put that on so u can turn faster, and with perks well I'll let u figure that out so u can find a build u love on Billy, goodluck and it was a pleasure
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Ive gotten an iron lung for laughing too hard
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I hate going up against billy because he is really good at taking advantage of survivor mistakes, which, when you are playing solo survivor, you can expect to see a lot of from your teammates. But a good billy against good survivors is a great, balanced game.
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All killers, except Nurse, have one or another limitation of force. Spirit has a recharge, Huntress limit axes, etc. Billy can travel around the map without restrictions. Unlike others, he can use his power anytime. In combination with the ability to instantly give a dying state, this is a too much. It’s not very fair, special if map is some like as Rotten Fields. Thus, it deserves at least a small nerf, giving a recharge of the saw after some time.
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That's kinda why they shouldn't be nerfed. Players don't want artificial skill ceilings that limit how good a character can be, they want their skill to actually matter.
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He needs an addon rework, insta chainsaw is definitely not balanced. Besides that he's alright, a bit lame to face because of latency but dedicated servers should fix this issue.
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Except he has a cooldown, casting time, forced forward movement, collision penalty and reduced steering. The first and the last three points get magically ignored in every thread.
His cooldown, unlike spirit, even disables attacking and interacting.
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Everyone: Nerf Nurse, Hillbilly, Spirit, etc!
Me: Buff low-mid tier killer!
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You are talking about Rotten Fields as a unfair map against Billy, but what if Billy gets Lery's or The Game or Haddonfield ? Are these maps fair for him ? I don't think so.
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Nerf Billy and what? Have only 2 viable killers. Then what? "Nerf Nurse/Spirit" will be our norm?
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Then i want Huntress with endless axes. Spirit with instant recharge. Clown with endless bottles.
They are scanty. A few seconds, and you can again threaten to immediately put down the survivor. Like and 2-3 seconds of the nurse’s stun are negligible and omission from this eliminated in a couple of seconds. If, say, Spirit screwed up with a teleport, before reloading the force, it becomes an ordinary m1 killer at a speed of 4.4 for 15 sec. Like and Huntress, throwing all the axes. I played little on Billy, but even that was enough to get games much easier than on most other killers, and you know that very well.
Actually, I'm not talking about the big nerf, reloading the saw will not greatly affect on ability to chase, it will just make it more honest, compared to the strength of other killers. Let's say this is overheating after 10 full starts of the saw with a cooldown. Or something similar.
I agree with 1. Except the Spirit. She's fine. And with 2 too.
These maps are more likely an exception. On most, it’s easy for him to travel from gen to gen.
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Rotten Fields is a exception for Billy too. Most maps aren't that open and in most maps if not on all, Billy is easily loopable.
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Give me NASCAR Billy Add-ons. I mean where he can only turn left, goes 200+ mph and when he bumps into things he explodes into a ball of fire (IE - Talladega Nights/Ricky Bobby).
Thanks.
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The DBD New Player Ritual:
Buy DBD
Play DBD
Go Against Billy
Cry On Forums For Nerf
Seriously; Billy is fine. People need to stop asking to nerf everything just because they had a bad round.
Spirit kills them? NERF!
Billy kills them? NERF!
Mori'd? NERF!
NoED because they ignored bones? NERF! NERF! NERRRRRRRRRRRF! Not fair that I can turn it off because I have to put in effort! It should turn off automatically!
Get.
Gud.
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no .. theres tens or hundreds of players like Ryan or better than him
what Im saying is that this killer isn't balanced unless a bot is controlling him.
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lol say what ? his abilty is easy to dodge??
I think devs and community managers never play against rank 1 killers
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Billy definitely doesn't need any nerfs what so ever. The people who say this are either low rank survivors or people who want the game to be a bully simulator. Billy is a good killer but is definitely not the best because he can be looped. People complain about his chainsaw being op but the only way you will get chainsawed is if you mess up. As long as you have good positioning and know how to loop he just turns into a mouse 1 killer equivalent to the wraith. I honestly don't understand how people don't understand this.
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The saw does have a cooldown. Get better at looping.
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Well, I do. It is VERY easy to dodge. Jungle gyms and infinites force Billy to M1.
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Kind sir or ma'am are you speaking in moon runes?
Also no because he is fine
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If survivor is crouching Billy should just trip over them, $h!t himself, and die bruh.
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The pistol does have a cooldown. Get better at dodging bullets.
If you do not understand, I do not consider Billy separately. A situation where several killers are clearly stronger than others is a bad balance. They should be approximately equal in strength. All.
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You simply want to bully Killers, like most survivors. Billy is absolutely fine. He is loopable, like so loopable i can loop him. His saw is easy to dodge, you might have to put effort into PRACTICING to beat him, but, he is very balanced. Also, not sure what your analogy is but, most pistols fire as fast as you can pull the trigger and have the cartridge exit the gun.
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Pistols do have a cooldown; reloading. ;)
And yes, all Killers SHOULD be equal, but that does not mean they all need to have 4 second cooldowns on their abilities so you can easily get away. We could make them all stronger, too.
Also; billy has cooldowns on missing & on hitting an object. Asking for longer cooldowns would turn him into an even easier-to-loop Killer.
I mean, I guess that's what you are asking for; easy to beat Killers.
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Nerf Trapper, too OP
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In all honesty there is only one nerf I could think of for Billy that wouldn't kill his gameplay and would help survivors feel like they have a chance once he gets going.
Slow the drain on his rev progress bar (as in you decided not to use the chainsaw), make Billy players feel like the choice between mallet vs chainsaw should be more thought out. Not anything extreme, mind you, but a second or two before they can decide not to go vroom vroom and bonk instead.
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Huhuhu..WHAT?
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* tired * yes, yes, just another main survivor.
>billy has cooldowns on missing & on hitting an object
Thanks, Cap.
>Asking for longer cooldowns would turn him into an even easier-to-loop Killer.
I did not speak about this, but about limiting the possibility of constant spam using a saw. In order to have to think where you can to saw, and not press the button constantly. And do not fly from gens to gens continuously. For example, after 10 charges of a saw - overheating and cooldown 10-15 sec.
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Ah, so then you are just a terrible survivor. I suck at survivor and I can loop him
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10-15 second cooldown? Charges on his chainsaw?
You really do want to turn Billy into an M1 killer you can endlessly loop. You can't, in any way, think giving Billy an absurdly long cooldown is anything but nerfing him so you can have an easier game.
Hillbilly is fine. Get gud.
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Billy with 15 seconds cooldown wouldn't be even in top 5 killers anymore. He would fall a lot. Without his mobility, he is nothing.
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Ah, so then you are just a terrible killer. I suck on Billy and I can kill all.
>10-15 second cooldown? Charges on his chainsaw?
Than are you reading? I wrote AFTER 10 USE OF SAW. You don’t have enough 10 uses to down someone? And this is just an example, it is quite possible to balance by adjusting the numbers so as not to make him weak. But you even perceive any example literally, with scream and horror.
>Get gud.
Get your eyes open. The point of view on balance has nothing to do with good or not good. I'm talking about imbalance in comparison with other killers.
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Nope, I usually kill everyone in my games and I've been sitting at Rank 1 for a long time. If you kill everyone, it means you are playing better than them. The chainsaw is pretty hard to hit against people who juke or run to jungle gyms or loops. Since you've made it abundantly clear that you aren't interested in advice, I won't give any. Enjoy your echo chamber.
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