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Can we get Face camping back?

Tsulan
Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
in General Discussions

Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?

Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.

Comments

  • Orion
    Orion Member Posts: 21,675

    I would love to get face camping back as an intended mechanic instead of an exploit.

  • ShesArebel88
    ShesArebel88 Member Posts: 234

    @Tsulan said:

    @SovererignKing said:
    Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooks 

    Yeah, i never understood why they do different rules on the same issue.
    Or why a 50kg Claudette can body block a 150kg Trapper. He would kick her IRL and she wouldn´t be able to recover for the next 30 seconds.

    How sweet it would be to have a kick option when the survivors are hovering around 😌 that'd make for some satisfying gameplay lmao

  • darktrix
    darktrix Member Posts: 1,790

    @Tsulan said:

    @SovererignKing said:
    Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooks 

    Yeah, i never understood why they do different rules on the same issue.
    Or why a 50kg Claudette can body block a 150kg Trapper. He would kick her IRL and she wouldn´t be able to recover for the next 30 seconds.

    I always find it comical whenever petite little Min reaches up and hauls a shirtless David off the hook like it's nothing. I guess threat of death and adrenaline give you some super strength.

  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,463
    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Star99er said:
    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

  • Star99er
    Star99er Member Posts: 1,463
    Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:
    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.
    Exactly
  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    Orion said:

    I would love to get face camping back as an intended mechanic instead of an exploit.

    Me too more time for gens while you’re staring lovingly into Jakes eyes.
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Paddy4583 said:
    Orion said:

    I would love to get face camping back as an intended mechanic instead of an exploit.

    Me too more time for gens while you’re staring lovingly into Jakes eyes.
    Finally, I can leave solo survivors to die on the hook without having to justify it in the endgame chat.
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  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL
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  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.



    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.



    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL

    "I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."

    Cancer.

    And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.

    Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    That´s not face camping.
    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.



    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.



    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL

    "I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."

    Cancer.


    Who are you quoting? I never said to remove them, I'm just pointing out a fact.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Paddy4583 said:
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

     I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

Or Doctor blasting M2.



You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL

    "I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."

    Cancer.

    And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.

    Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.

    Camping: killer achieved his goal by successfully chasing, downing and hooking a survivor.
    Looping: survivor wastes time by abusing the differences in the colision boxes of killers and survivors.

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  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    That´s not face camping.
    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.
    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.

    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.
  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    Want camping gone?

    Here is the solution.

    First hook you die. No added time. No more nine lives. If you get slapped on the hook you die. Instantly.

    Willing to accept that? I doubt it.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Envees said:

    Want camping gone?

    Here is the solution.

    First hook you die. No added time. No more nine lives. If you get slapped on the hook you die. Instantly.

    Willing to accept that? I doubt it.

    Only if we can use machetes to kill the killer too.

    Oh and have voice chat in game. And maybe rename the game to something more catchy. Something that begins with Friday...
  • Beardedragon
    Beardedragon Member Posts: 425

    what does people mean theres no counter to face camping?

    the rest of the team can do generators meanwhile cant they

  • TeambossFloze
    TeambossFloze Member Posts: 1,260

    Oohh a post on face camping - haven't seen that around here in a while

  • Dwight_Fairfield
    Dwight_Fairfield Member Posts: 7,095
    edited July 2018

    @Beardedragon said:
    what does people mean theres no counter to face camping?

    the rest of the team can do generators meanwhile cant they

    That is the best way to punish those pathetic face campers. Everyone else escapes, and ends up with a higher score than the killer, too. Worth being face camped to death for that.

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.



    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.



    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.

    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.
    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.



    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.



    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.

    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.
    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

    I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol

    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
  • Envees
    Envees Member Posts: 370

    @Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.



    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.



    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.

    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.

    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.
    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.
    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

    I call it patrolling. I have no desire to chase you another potential two times so i make sure you die the first time you are on the hook. Rarely did i end up with less than two kills. Camping pays. It does. One is ALWAYS close by meaning only two are on gens. Most of the games i camped i got 2-3 kills.

  • RSB
    RSB Member Posts: 2,258

    @SovererignKing said:
    Only thing I want is for Survivors to not be able to body block the hook prompt. If it’s “an exploit” of a game mechanic for Killers, it’s the same for Survivors.Give Killers the swivel hooks 

    No no no.

    When killer blocks, he is using an exploit, he is a noob, his mother a #########, and he should kill himself.

    When survivors are blocking, they are intelligent, using smart tactic and, ekhem, "doing what they can do to survive".

  • Russ76
    Russ76 Member Posts: 306
    Visionmaker said:


    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
    Like you I have never heard it called HARD camping.  As far as I am concerned it will always be face camping, as you are staring at me, face to face.  
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    Russ76 said:
    Visionmaker said:

    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄
    Like you I have never heard it called HARD camping.  As far as I am concerned it will always be face camping, as you are staring at me, face to face.  
    The most romantic form of camping. If only we had a kissy face emote while on the hook.
  • Runiver
    Runiver Member Posts: 2,095

    @Tsulan said:
    Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
    It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?

    Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.

    Whatever you do, you'll always be a "camper" for most survivors since you're still on the map by the time they escape anyway.
    It's a pretty common thing to say, but whatever you do and they do, even if all of them show up around the hook, they'll still expect you to run away from it brainlessly like if you were an AI.

    That being said, there's quite a few "free camping" going on nowadays, even if it's not justified, which is pretty boring. Atm you'd better not being caught first in the current meta lol.

  • Paddy4583
    Paddy4583 Member Posts: 864
    edited July 2018
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Paddy4583 said:
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

     I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

Or Doctor blasting M2.



You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL

    "I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."

    Cancer.

    And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.

    Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.

    This game's balance is not built to handle the looping exploit or voice chat.

    Stop pretending exploiting bugs and abusing SWF is skill.

    You are the least skilled survivor on these forums. Without your SWF and pallet infinites, you wouldn't last 30 seconds in a chase against a competent killer.

    Incorrect assumptions 
    i don’t play SWF, your just salty because you can’t beat SWF groups. Stop pretending SWF playing as a team is some how an exploit.  

    You’ve got a foot up your ass about SWF and your vendetta is getting boring, you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a survivor who plays SWF.

    is it because you have no F to S with is that it??

    Ive also noticed that most of the crying and whining comes from the people who have Leatherface avatars.....  illuminati confirmation.
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

     I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.



    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.



    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.

    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.

    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

    I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol

    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄

    Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
    Starts at 16:55
    https://youtu.be/DzEosOqhDpk?t=16m55s

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited July 2018
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

     I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.



    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.



    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.

    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.

    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

    I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol

    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄

    Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
    Starts at 16:55
    image


    TIL. Point still stands though. Leatherface and Doctor are able to fully and effortlessly deny saves, achieving the same end facecamping did.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.

  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    powerbats said:

    Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.

    To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.

    It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.
  • Russ76
    Russ76 Member Posts: 306
    Visionmaker said:
    powerbats said:

    Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.

    To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.

    It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.
    I agree it is heartbreaking.  If they would add swivel hooking mechanism I think it would help avoid the hooking vacuum that you reference.
  • Visionmaker
    Visionmaker Member Posts: 2,051
    edited July 2018

    @Russ76 said:
    I agree it is heartbreaking.  If they would add swivel hooking mechanism I think it would help avoid the hooking vacuum that you reference.

    There goes my dream of Boil Over ever being useful. /s

    Dunno why there isn't a hook swivel as it is. Though I don't think killers have any issue finding hooks anyway, barring DS.

  • Jplanas98
    Jplanas98 Member Posts: 532

    Face camping wasn't removed. There's nothing stopping you from face camping, you can still just stand there and be trash and toxic. Just because the survivor can rescue from the side if the hook doesn't mean face camping is removed. Leatherfaces chainsaw has an AoE effect that allows you to hit the rescuer, and the rescuer.

  • SovererignKing
    SovererignKing Member Posts: 1,273
    Visionmaker said:
    powerbats said:

    Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.

    To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.

    It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.
    They took away pick up vacuum. Survivors lost Pallet Vacuum, Killers lost pick up Vacuum. 1:1, Survivors lost something, so did Killers. 

    Though as per usual, Survivors want it to be double. Killers should always be nerfed double the amount as Survivors. You know, because reasons.

    Besides Wiggling wasn’t intended for you to escape the Killers grasp as often as you seem to think. All wiggling was introduced for was to prevent a Killer from basically carrying someone around all match. More or less “taking them out of the game”. That or carrying them around with Agitation.
  • powerbats
    powerbats Member Posts: 7,068

    @SovererignKing said:
    Visionmaker said:


    powerbats said:

    Now if only they'd add swivel to cleansing totems so my big survivor ass animation doesn't stand out like a Sir Mix A Lot video.

    To be fair, they took away pallet vacuums but didn't take away hook vacuums.

    It's a teeny little bit bullshit to see the killers do the electric slide and whisk you onto the hook while you sit at 100% wiggle meter.

    They took away pick up vacuum. Survivors lost Pallet Vacuum, Killers lost pick up Vacuum. 1:1, Survivors lost something, so did Killers. 

    Though as per usual, Survivors want it to be double. Killers should always be nerfed double the amount as Survivors. You know, because reasons.

    Besides Wiggling wasn’t intended for you to escape the Killers grasp as often as you seem to think. All wiggling was introduced for was to prevent a Killer from basically carrying someone around all match. More or less “taking them out of the game”. That or carrying them around with Agitation.

    I find struggling has gotten worse since 2.0 hit not sure why and I do know more killers re running iron grasp and enduring since 2.0 as well. The dribbling when you're not using ds is kinda annoying and how you can be at 100% but not wiggle free since hooks have an aoe radius so to speak now. With the non hook swivel the killer had to be in front but now if they're within x distance of the hook you're wiggle meter is cancelled.

    It's working similar to how basement hooks work, you can be near the front hook but go for the back hook and never lose the survivor.

  • NMCKE
    NMCKE Member Posts: 8,243
    Tsulan said:

    Since survivor mains still complain about being face camped.
    It seems the removal of face camping back in October hasn´t done much in the eyes of survivors. So why not bring it back?

    Or can we get at least a Educational video, where you show what the differences in camping are. Because people still use expressions like "long distance face camper" for killers which dare to look into the direction of the hook from a distance of 40+ meters.

    If I know there's a survivor near the hooked survivor, I'll line up my hatchet on the hooked survivor, go very far away from the hooked survivor whIle keeping my charged hatchet lined up on the hooked survivor, and wait for the hooked survivor to get unhooked. When the hooked survivor gets unhooked, I release my hatchet and down the survivor from a far lol. Wait... that still counts as camping right? Oops ;)
  • Mechkiller3425
    Mechkiller3425 Member Posts: 55
    Youre Kidding right?,
    Man Killers are as entitled as Survivors when they Change Quality Of Life.
  • P3Myers
    P3Myers Member Posts: 58

    @Paddy4583 said:
    RemoveSWF said:

    @Paddy4583 said:

    RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said:

RemoveSWF said:

    @Visionmaker said: Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.





It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

    I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing. Or Doctor blasting M2. You are not entitled to a free rescue.

    Good, I didn't want one anyway LOL



"I don't want a free rescue, I just want everything that prevents free rescues removed from the game."

Cancer.



And I want easy kills, no looping and SWF removing because I’m not skilled enough to combat it.

    Your entitlement is just as cancerous, so step down off your soap box.

    This game's balance is not built to handle the looping exploit or voice chat.

    Stop pretending exploiting bugs and abusing SWF is skill.

    You are the least skilled survivor on these forums. Without your SWF and pallet infinites, you wouldn't last 30 seconds in a chase against a competent killer.

    Incorrect assumptions 
    i don’t play SWF, your just salty because you can’t beat SWF groups. Stop pretending SWF playing as a team is some how an exploit.  

    You’ve got a foot up your ass about SWF and your vendetta is getting boring, you assume everyone who disagrees with you is a survivor who plays SWF.

    is it because you have no F to S with is that it??

    Ive also noticed that most of the crying and whining comes from the people who have Leatherface avatars.....  illuminati confirmation.

    hes a shame to all LF players

  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Mechkiller3425 said:
    Youre Kidding right?,
    Man Killers are as entitled as Survivors when they Change Quality Of Life.
    Have you even read more than the title?
  • Tsulan
    Tsulan Member Posts: 15,095
    Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:
    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

    Tsulan said:

    @Visionmaker said:

Tsulan said:

    @Star99er said:

    Face camping is unhealthy for the game, if anything it needs something to counter it.

    It got removed. There is no face camping anymore.

     I mean... Leather face camping with half rev'd chainsaw is just about the same thing.

    Or Doctor blasting M2.



    That´s not face camping.

    It´s as much of the same thing as Billy is to Leatherface.

    Both have chainsaws, one has a huge map presence, the other one doesn´t.



    Nah. Hillbilly can't prevent saves. Even if he downs one person, another can save.

    Doctor and LF literally prevent saves. Call it what you want, it achieves the same thing as facecamping.

    It´s not face camping.

    Face camping was standing in front of the hooked survivor. Preventing the "press m1 to unhook" promt from appearing. This has been removed with the introduction of swivel hooks.

    It was removed long after the release of the Doctor and shortly after Leatherface was introduced.

    What you mean is called HARD camping.

    I know what you mean by face camping.. I don't care to dispute over semantics, I am pointing out the fact that it is accomplishing the same thing. Lol

    But ######### I've never heard anyone call it HARD camping 🙄

    Here you go, devs explaining the differences in camping:
    Starts at 16:55
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    TIL. Point still stands though. Leatherface and Doctor are able to fully and effortlessly deny saves, achieving the same end facecamping did.
    I love it, when devs explain what every type of camping differentiates. But people still call everything face camping.
    Never forget that streamer who complained about being face camped by Freddy.
  • ChraizE
    ChraizE Member Posts: 232

    Only newbies call every form of camping face camping because they don't know what it means. They are the same newbies that will report you for hacking because they refuse to believe that they are bad at the game. Only time they get beat is when the opposition are cheating. #strokethatego