Unpopular opinions thread

Exhaustion add-ons are fine.

There is a double standard where it's expected that survivors can essentially load up on whatever they want, but killers can't do the same. The game is a lot more balanced than it appears, but many killers feel shamed out of running strong builds.

Postgame chat is really unhealthy for many people. It's a 4 vs 1 bully mentality at times, especially when it's a SWF.

Hag is better than Billy.

Flashlights don’t kill hags power.

Old Freddy was actually really good.

There is nothing wrong with tunneling.

Iron Will is the best survivor perk.

Ruin isn’t needed to win.

NOED is fine.

Keys are fine.

Meg is gorgeous and the hottest ever. Oh wait... hahah my bad, everyone already knows that, therefore it’s not unpopular.

Yeah I don’t understand shirtless Myers - why have that when you could literally have Boyfriend Myers complete with dork glasses and white bedsheet.

A terrifying sight to behold!

1 Huntress would be fine with 115% speed, it could be at least tested on a PTB.

2 Myers is overrated.

3 Pig is underrated.

4 Family Residence isn't that bad of a map for killers.

5 I feel Ruin is a little bit overrated, but there are almost no effective stall perks to replace it.

6 Trapper is the worst killer in the game.

7 Spine Chill is overrated.

Don't leave Clown out of the fun 😥

And on topic.

• NOED is fine. It can feel anti-fun, but at the time you get "robbed" by it you've already gotten to play most of the match and it's one of the few situations where the word "entitled" feels fitting to me.
• Old Freddy was by no means a top tier killer, but he was MUCH better than the bottom-of-the-barrel F-tier placement a lot of people assigned to him.
• There's no intentional survivor or killer bias among the developers.
• Nothing done in the interest of winning is really "toxic" as long as it's within the rules of the game. Obviously includes looping, tunneling and the usual suspects, but even tbagging/flashlight clicking can arguably be a real strategy if it's done by a skilled survivor trying to get the killer's attention to benefit the other survivors. The same goes for super hard/"face"camping against an extremely altruistic no-man-left-behind team of survivors.

Camping is a part of the game and shouldnt be punished.

finally someone said it about meg's face

1. I've take a Nurse, a Billy, or a Spirit over a camping Hag or pallet Freddy any day. (By camping Hag, I mean a Hag who will place traps AND hovers around the hook as if the traps aren't campy enough. If you're gonna play that way, just play Trapper or Wraith or something. Your traps are there so you can leave and use them to come back. end rant)
2. SWF brings balance to the game. Without at least a 2 person SWF, killers have the advantage
3. There are no unusable killers at any rank. They can all be used if the player is good enough.
4. There are also no "weak" killers. Just some that are weaker than the stronger one.
5. NOED is fine. Just do totems
6. Early game camping is way too effective of a strategy and is toxic to the community. Late game camping is fine. (Same for tunneling)
7. Survivors should get some kind of individual abilities to differentiate themselves. Once you've unlocked the perks for everyone, the only difference is the character height and who has better cosmetics.

1- Meg is ugly, Nea is not

2- (Proper) Stealth is harder than looping, but still effective at wasting the killer's time

2b- You can stealth a Doctor, and it feels great.

3- The Hag shouldn't be able to place traps in close proximity to hooked survivors. It's just old Trapper (pre 1.5) 2.0

4- Iridescent Heads are bs

5- Looping is not that big of a deal

I like indoor maps and I think it's best to scare Survivors than to kill them.

@Nescau_Fernando

Since you took the time to write all that I'd like to take the time to provide some feedback. I know it's all just opinions but they were some good talking points!

1. To be honest I feel like this one I can't really get behind when looking through the business scope of things. The games three years running with almost little to no recurring financial investments from players beside a $20 initial investment + however much dlc they bought (this was before the update, now you can spend even less money on all the work they've ever done. I'm not trying to sit here and saying all corporations are entitled to money, but it was genuinely surprising to see any sort of cosmetic stuff take this long to appear, and I'm surprised they made DLC earnable to be honest. I also think the bloodweb grind has been just a huge longstanding issue that they haven't prioritized addressing until recently, rather than something any degree more sinister.
2. I can't agree with the speculation that licenses attract casuals. I would more likely infer that they would attract any sort of gamer whose interests already included whatever licensed content existed and hopefully this weird horror game. I agree with your attitude about licensed balance though, that's actually a really bizarre phenomenon and I wonder how it ended up like that. I wonder if they're forced to have a steadier hand when it comes balancing licensed folk. Did they have to ask for the Freddy rework?
3. I -want- to say that I heard the devs saying that all the feedback points toward chase oriented gameplay over stealth with some more obvious reasons. Not finding anyone as a killer can be boring, frustrating and low scoring, as a survivor it can be exciting but still low scoring. I also believe that being forced to make a series of decisions constantly in a pvp situation is what leads to skill being determined. You could argue about the semantics about braindead chases but I'll simply maintain that a lot of chases tend to end with a grievous error on the side of either party which can lead to reflection and re-strategizing rather than wondering if you would have found the blendette had you hung around that generator for another minute or two. As for Nurse, I would mostly agree. I think she just needs an add-on pass and maybe tweaking. You could add a lot of depth to her through add-ons and normalize the power level of her blinking that way.
4. Full Disclosure: I play killer far more than survivor but spirit is not one that I pick outside of quests. Whenever I go against her I definitely come away feeling like you described though, mostly a "welp I'm not sure what I was honestly supposed to do there" after getting downed because she felt around for me while invisible rather than listening.
5. I would only add that there's a fair bit of killer outfits that I scratch my head at as well.
6. I never bothered with running noed myself, and with the new cleansing rewards I tend to stop for dull totems when I see them. I only get annoyed when it's someone like a nurse or spirit running it rather than a LF or wraith. Getting downed trying to soak a hit near the gate for someone because of NOED will never stop tilting people I figure.
7. I figured a lot more people were starting to catch wise to this, it's surprising the sheer amount of pallets you're forced to break on this map. I wonder how it'll look with the new pallet value system.
8. I agree with you again, I also feel like betting on that sort of thing has led to far more frustration than glee in my case. Third Seal is one of my absolute favorite perks but the fact it's a hex means it's far less likely that it'll earn its value.

I think the first few unpopular opinions that come to my mind are:

1. Hex totems should not be lit up.
2. There should be in game text chat between all sides, and pregame chat between all sides, just hide the killers name. Double down on the moderation team and add a report function for toxicity. My hopes that it would add to a more civil experience are probably dubious though.
3. Moris aren't anything but petty revenge offerings. I'm fine with devour hope since there's counterplay.
4. Perks/events/offerings that affect bloodpoints should be far more pervasive.
5. Perks don't need ranks anymore with this many in the game, it was a thing for the sparse content back then.

1. Survivors tend to blame the killer, when a lot of their problems could be solved if they ran better team perks. A lot of them run perks that are more for their own individual survival.
2. The EGC gave killers another free lane to be an #########. There is no need to be a jerk letting them crawl almost all the way out only to pull them back, and watch them slowly lose hope, or bleed out, or be taken by the entity. Just take your kill, and go. ESPECIALLY, when you already crushed them in the match.
3. The end game collapse removed viability for hatch escapes, and make a few perks completely useless (not that they were that useful to begin with).
4. Survivors need to stop the bull with the butt dancing. If the killer was an #########, and still lost okay fine. Butt dance for a second. But, it's when we've gen rushed a killer to death, they haven't gotten a single hook, and then survivors want to sit there and tea bag in the exit gate that is beyond not okay.
5. I don't think the EGC should trigger with one survivor left. I think they should still have the option to try to get gens done to get out.
6. AND LASTLY if I am the last survivor in a match I should have my time on the hook. I should have the ability to struggle to get off even though everyone around me is dead. I should be able to get my 800+ struggle points.

Oh we’re giving unpopular opinions? Okay, I’ll say it.

The devs do a great job and we’re lucky to have them.

Also.. noed is fine, and they over nerfed MoM.

1.Boil Over is actually a pretty fun perk

2.Nurse has counter play

3.Tunneling/Camping is okay in certain situations

4.Meg is hot

5.LF needs a buff before pig/wraith

6.Bamboozle should be reworked or removed

7.Everyone should stop asking for shirtless cosmetics

8.Spirt takes no skill to play effectively

This is a cursed thread, asking for shirtless LF and decrying shirtless Myers (and a bunch of other stuff, but that's not as important)