SICK OF FACECAMPERS!

And what can they do without demanding killers be forced to play how survivors want? What do you think will happen if they do?

I also think that downed survivors should pick up themselves automatically when out of killer's TR. And of course, in case if killers just stand near, after 60 seconds survivor should stand up with endurance effect, to punish killers for doing nothing.

I had a stroke reading this.

Thank you for speaking for all of us I totally agree :)

I'm not saying that, im pretty much fine with DS. the only complaint i have with it is the ridiculously long timer because it goes from anti-tunnel perk to 60 seconds invisibility. either make it so when someone else is hooked it switches off for the other person, lower the timer its active or make it not apply when EGC is active.

If there was some requirement to play survivor to unlock killers that would force killers to potentially have to see first hand how unfun it is to be face camped. Then maybe they will play in a more positive way.

I've been kicking around ideas that would solve most the major issues players have with this game. I realize that too many people are entrenched in the current system so I don't think it's fair to those players to fundamentally change the game. But there is no reason that they can't introduce an alternate game mode that many would prefer. Take a look at this thread:

This is the relevant passage that describes my solution to camping:

Survivor 3 Life System

Survivors have 3 "lives". When the killer catches and puts them on a hook the survivor loses 1 life and is put in a ghost world for 45 seconds after losing the first life and 30 seconds after losing the second life. If the survivor is hooked in the basement, they will be in the ghost world an additional 30 seconds. While the survivor is in the ghost world they can not interact with any objects other than vaulting windows or other objects. The world appears black and white and the survivor can not see or touch the other players besides other survivors also in the ghost world. The survivor will not be able to see generators, totems, or chests either.

The survivor will also earn bloodpoints for collecting orbs in the ghost world. Small orbs will be worth 25 bloodpoints and rare large orbs will be worth 100. The orbs regenerate over time and survivors will be able to earn roughly the equivalent amount of bloodpoints in the ghost world as if they were working on a generator solo during that time. The ghost world bloodpoints will go into a general pool. The general pool is applied to any category that doesn't reach 8,000 points, but will never raise the survivor past 32,000 total earned.

After the timer is up the survivor will appear on a spectral hook at least 32 meters away from the killers current location. The survivor on the hook will see the shroud indication from Insidious around them. This indicates that the killer can not see them on the hook. Other survivors can see the aura of the hooked survivor and unhook them normally at which point they are back in the game. While a survivor is hooked there is no progress meter and there is no struggle phase. Survivors can attempt to free themselves from the hook, but the baseline success chance is 0% for the first attempt and increases by 1% for each attempt after. Attempts for the survivor to free themselves will take 1-2 seconds longer than the current system. If all the survivors are either dead, in ghost world time out, or hooked then the killer wins.

Nah, stay getting camped. xD

you just requested the way the game actually works. the game is very rewarding already for killers if they leave the hook.. most people's argument is that the game is unrewarding when the killer camps. did we lose you somewhere? sounds to me like the devs already tackled it.. :) not sure what you you said about a balance being off..

wow.. not sure where to begin..

if a killer catches and hooks a survivor he gets some bp for finding the survivor, chasing the survivor, hitting the survivor, downing the survivor, and hooking the survivor.

if he then stands there for 2 minutes watching the survivor die while the others finish and escape, he makes 0 additional points until the sacrifice is complete, and that amount is nowhere near the amount he would have gotten had he repeated the process.

if you do something 1 time in a game, you will always get much less reward than doing the same thing(s) multiple times. it's just math.

But once again your forcing a playsyle..when do survivors get penalized for playing scummy to killers?..never...there is no punishments for survivors unless they kill each other

Get borrowed time. If a killer camps do as many gens as possible until the survivor is about to die then go save the survivor. It's okay if the killer downs you in fact you want them to down you and not the person you saved. Borrowed time will give them an extra chance at escaping (and hopefully they have DS too so if the killer does go hard after them they'll get another free escape.) By the time the killer hooks you almost all gens should be done and if the killer decides to face camp you at this point he's an idiot and you'll get 3 or possbiliy 4 to escape.

When I was lower ranks I always used borrowed time and DS. Now I don't use borrowed time because I don't see many campers anymore and it just doesn't come in handy as it did when I was first playing and all the rank 15's and up would camp. But I still use DS because you'll get tunnelers in all ranks.

Wait, I thought facecamping didn't exist anymore...

It is a problem for low ranks, but on high ranks the killer would get gen rushed and de-pip. The problem is that low rank killers don’t know what they’re doing and low rank survivors can’t counter it.